HHN XXI Speculation

[localHHNfan19]

yeah I agree, 5 bucks in the ticket is better than 10 bucks every time you buy an item, Actually, rising prices in everything inside the park could make more money but like it was said here, it could drive guests away, Im local and I always get FFP, a lot of people use the coke cans, at the same time, I don't really buy much at the park, I buy soda or food some sometimes, if they rise prices inside i would just never spend any money inside, I could see some people feeling that way, like, not spending any money due to the rise

i understand that, so i guess raising ticket prices is really for people who come to florida.i myself i use the bk promo code.like i said ILL BE GETTING THE FFP this year it just seem cheaper in the long run and its hard as heck to do evrything in one night.

[LV-426]

i understand that, so i guess raising ticket prices is really for people who come to florida.i myself i use the bk promo code.like i said ILL BE GETTING THE FFP this year it just seem cheaper in the long run and its hard as heck to do evrything in one night.

I guess what I mean is, your idea would give them more money yeah, actually a lot more than just the 5 on the ticket prices, 5 on one ticket against 5 on every single item, would give them a lot more, but

I could see people not spending as much as they do, the ticket increase is not felt as much as a food or drink increase would be felt by everyone

[bubby45]

Oh I dont know a combination of Bordello of Blood,dusk til dawn could be interesting with the pole dancing vampire from Castle Vampyr but with a Casino/Bordello theme you go to gamble or whatever and become the vampires victim

[localHHNfan19]

I guess what I mean is, your idea would give them more money yeah, actually a lot more than just the 5 on the ticket prices, 5 on one ticket against 5 on every single item, would give them a lot more, but

I could see people not spending as much as they do, the ticket increase is not felt as much as a food or drink increase would be felt by everyone

i see what u are saying, and it would drive some people away from HHN which is what they dont want to do.there trying to bring more people into the park.and rasing prices on items sold within the park wont do the trick.i was trying to think up ways to where they wont have to riase the price of tickets but still make up the lost eles where.it was a good ideal but not good Business ethics.

edit:::well i think we are getting little off topic here so forget i brought up the whole ticket price deal and lets get back to speculation.

Edited May 16, 2011 by localHHNfan19

[Oysterhead00]

I live in NY and buy the FFP every year. We go down to Orlando for 6 days, 5 nights. The pass covers us for Wed, Thur and Sun. Then, for Fri and Sat, we do the Stay N Scream (or whatever option) since we have a 7-day Universal pass so we just buy tix for that night in the park.

Saves a lot of money just for those 3 nights, so anybody "local" who doesn't buy one is pretty crazy.

[Legacy]

I know its crazy how they keep pushing back the date.. That just says they get better quality every year.

I's funny I was watching Art of Scare for the 1000 the other day and TJ was saying "Construction starts late August..."

As for the Casino... It is just a theme... Or an idea. To say it is trashy is to say all vampires are Twilight.

Art of the Scare was filmed in 2002, and construction did start that late back then. Oh, and if you look in the background during the "rehearsal" segment for Screamhouse, I'm in the blue shirt with the stripe across the chest.

And I love that statement. I would love to create a "Haunted House Maker" where one segment is the location, one segment is the "monster" and one segment is the tone. It would give people a better idea of just how varied things can be.

I have to disagree with you there. Vampires can be done in many different ways, so the comparison isn't really on par at all. A casino theme can only be done in so many ways and each way I think of just seems trashy, poorly-thought out, or as a last minute though. The only way a casino type house would ever be any good would be as the dark humor house of the year.

This is my own opinion of course.

Oh, ye of little faith. With the flamboyancy in the architecture of casinos, it would actually have to be well-constructed and designed to be be really effective (the type of environment where A&D excels). One of most potentially exciting aspects to me is the fact that there are tons of realistic lighting and noise effects. I personally hate strobe for strobe's sake and noise for noise's sake. The flashing lights of the machines and the noise of the machines is realistic and can be insanely disorienting. Never mind the different room potential: Slot Floor, Card-game floor, Lobby, Restaurant/bar, Club, Theater, Bedroom, Security Room, Vault, Cash-in Booth, Pool-side (which could be an epic scene)... And the neatest part is that there are three potential monsters that would make perfect sense: Ghosts, Vampires, or Zombies. Hold on, I need to go design.

Oh I dont know a combination of Bordello of Blood,dusk til dawn could be interesting with the pole dancing vampire from Castle Vampyr but with a Casino/Bordello theme you go to gamble or whatever and become the vampires victim

I know I just said Vampires would work, but I just like to say that I HATE ("Hate?") HATE the "sexy" vampires that Universal keeps insisting on using. I always feel sorry for the girls cast in those positions (I heard some horror stories from the infamous "Bed Vampire" from Vampyr in 2004) and that's not really what they wanted to be cast to do. They audition to scare, and they don't get a chance to gyrating on a platform...

[Jakemeister]

I have to disagree with you there. Vampires can be done in many different ways, so the comparison isn't really on par at all. A casino theme can only be done in so many ways and each way I think of just seems trashy, poorly-thought out, or as a last minute though. The only way a casino type house would ever be any good would be as the dark humor house of the year.

This is my own opinion of course.

I disagree my friend. I think we could pull off an excellent Casino house. Nothing flamboyant (albeit I think we could pull that off if we did 60's era casino) but what if we took a route similar to how 'Fallout: New Vegas' is displayed. Show us the gritty, dusty, and dirty Vegas, not the flashy, flamboyant one. Kind of like Ghosttown (2004) meets Vegas. I think it could work.

I'm showing some bias here. I really want to see a casino house. Not a gambling oriented event though. As people like Armando, others here, and others on various forums have pointed out it doesn't seem like something HHN would, or should do. It seems, as you pointed out, to have a "Knott's" feel.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Jakemeister

[Goo]

I don't know how I feel about a Casino theme for a house, or the event... It seems rather unoriginal. Kind of like Silver Screams was with the movie theater idea. I don't know. I guess it could be interesting.

[Nightcrawler]

Legacy, excellent points, I hadn't thought of that.

In particular, great points on how a casino setting could be a great way of utilizing the sort of sensory/ distracting type scares that HHN developers are fond of using. For instance, in the slots room, between the heavy lights and the loud whirring and bells from the machines, visitors could experience the kind of sensory overload that would so completely distract them that they could then have a Scareactor jump out and scare the living crap out of them.

For the theme, as you pointed out, there can be three ideas for what Scareactors to use:

1. Zombies. Similar to Zombie Gras, you're stuck in a casino infested with the undead.

2. Vampires. I remember a story from I think 'The Vault of Horror' in which there was a town which had a restaurant that did regular business during the day, but at night, vampires took it over, and served blood- themed dishes in the same way a vegetarian restaurant serves vegetable dishes (i.e. roast blood clots instead of steak). I recall at the end of the story, a human trespasser to the restaurant who didn't realize the truth until it was too late is hung upside down from the ceiling, a tap is inserted into his jugular, and the vampires use it to fill their glasses with his blood for a toast. The House could function in a similar way, with it being a normal casino by day, but taken over by vampires during the night, with humans betting on their lives and blood. In fact, for the "Restaurant/ Bar" room, it could maybe have the upside down guy with a tap in his neck from the story.

3. Ghosts. A haunted casino could be VERY cool. Especially considering how many casinos have been run by the mafia in the past, maybe the backstory for the House could be that it is a casino haunted by the ghosts of the people killed in a brutal gangland massacre that occurred there in the 1930s. Of course, one should never underestimate the scare value of the right sound effects at the right time (Hence the love of using chainsaws at HHN), I'm betting the sound of a ghostly gangster's tommygun going off would be great for making unsuspecting visitors jump out of their shoes.

[Circ]

Definitely liking that idea for a mafia-stylized ghost casino house.

I had something similar to your second idea with "betting", Nightcrawler. Except either with organ thieves. After all, there is the old thing about selling off kidneys to pay off Vegas debts... Just something to think about. Pretty sure it wouldn't happen, but it would be different.

[Freak]

Legacy, excellent points, I hadn't thought of that.

In particular, great points on how a casino setting could be a great way of utilizing the sort of sensory/ distracting type scares that HHN developers are fond of using. For instance, in the slots room, between the heavy lights and the loud whirring and bells from the machines, visitors could experience the kind of sensory overload that would so completely distract them that they could then have a Scareactor jump out and scare the living crap out of them.

For the theme, as you pointed out, there can be three ideas for what Scareactors to use:

1. Zombies. Similar to Zombie Gras, you're stuck in a casino infested with the undead.

2. Vampires. I remember a story from I think 'The Vault of Horror' in which there was a town which had a restaurant that did regular business during the day, but at night, vampires took it over, and served blood- themed dishes in the same way a vegetarian restaurant serves vegetable dishes (i.e. roast blood clots instead of steak). I recall at the end of the story, a human trespasser to the restaurant who didn't realize the truth until it was too late is hung upside down from the ceiling, a tap is inserted into his jugular, and the vampires use it to fill their glasses with his blood for a toast. The House could function in a similar way, with it being a normal casino by day, but taken over by vampires during the night, with humans betting on their lives and blood. In fact, for the "Restaurant/ Bar" room, it could maybe have the upside down guy with a tap in his neck from the story.

3. Ghosts. A haunted casino could be VERY cool. Especially considering how many casinos have been run by the mafia in the past, maybe the backstory for the House could be that it is a casino haunted by the ghosts of the people killed in a brutal gangland massacre that occurred there in the 1930s. Of course, one should never underestimate the scare value of the right sound effects at the right time (Hence the love of using chainsaws at HHN), I'm betting the sound of a ghostly gangster's tommygun going off would be great for making unsuspecting visitors jump out of their shoes.

I actually love the ideas you just posted. Though I like the ghost version, the only downside is that the environment would have to be dark and eerie like Legendary Truth last year, therefore not allowing the colorful flashing lights and sensory overload that would compliment a casino-themed house. In that sense, I think the vampire version would work best.

As for the ghost version, I think it would be nice to use that as the sequel house (a la PsychoScarepy) for the next year. "The mafia has one owned this casino, only to have been over-taken by vampires. Now, the blood has run dry and the vampires have fled the casino and Carey, Ohio. The U.S. government has condemned the building and wishes to tear it down due to its state and gruesome history; unfortunately, the workers that have tried to demolish the place have been mysteriously murdered by what seems like evil spirits of those who have died in that former vampire-ridden casino. Now Legendary Truth is looking for some extra volunteer investigators to rid the place of evil spirits.

[localHHNfan19]

As for the ghost version, I think it would be nice to use that as the sequel house (a la PsychoScarepy) for the next year. "The mafia has one owned this casino, only to have been over-taken by vampires. Now, the blood has run dry and the vampires have fled the casino and Carey, Ohio. The U.S. government has condemned the building and wishes to tear it down due to its state and gruesome history; unfortunately, the workers that have tried to demolish the place have been mysteriously murdered by what seems like evil spirits of those who have died in that former vampire-ridden casino. Now Legendary Truth is looking for some extra volunteer investigators to rid the place of evil spirits.

that could work,if done in a SS

[Lambier]

I think a Casino has the potential to be something pretty cool. If it's done well, of course. it has the potential to be really really cheasy. >.<

[Freak]

I think a Casino has the potential to be something pretty cool. If it's done well, of course. it has the potential to be really really cheasy. >.<

If they do have a casino house this year, hopefully it will be more colorful than dark.

[Lambier]

O_O The video of Knott's is......very sad.

Yeah Im sure HHN could do alot better than that......then again....it wouldnt be too hard xD Sorry, that was harsh. But seriously.

[JDW]

WOW is that par for the course for Knott's? Blacklight paint everywhere!! Reminds me of Monster Golf... or oogie boogie threw up everywhere. Because of that people think a Casino house is a bad idea? Man, give A&D some credit.

Edited May 17, 2011 by JWFearman

[Legacy]

WOW is that par for the course for Knott's? Blacklight paint everywhere!! Remonds me of Monster Golf... or oogie boogie threw up everywhere. Because of that people think a Casino house is a bad idea? Man, give A&D some credit.

Seriously. I'm a little disappointed that people are even mentioning Knott's in this sub-forum. It's good to know that if Knott's had the creativity to do a mythology house first, a lot of people on here would think that Universal's would have been poorly designed and cheesy.

It's like comparing a poorly-funded high school drama production of Les Miserables with original Broadway production on opening night.

[JDW]

Here is something I thought of in regards to role the dice...

Other than Emeric just screwing with us... Why would he have posted that on MAY 4th... and not posted a clue by now unless that was the clue? My thought is that is the clue... Until proven otherwise.

Edited May 17, 2011 by JWFearman

[Guest]

A house scene has been revealed: Sprung Tent 1 - Scene 8 - "Rune Room"

What do you think this means? Speculate away.

[localHHNfan19]

this could mean so many things! i wish we had little more to go on.

[Freak]

From the Dictionary: (Wikipedia had too much words so I went with the dictionary it's the definition is straight-to-the-point.

–noun 1. any of the characters of certain ancient alphabets, as of a script used for writing the Germanic languages, especially of Scandinavia and Britain, from c200 to c1200, or a script used for inscriptions in a Turkic language of the 6th to 8th centuries from the area near the Orkhon River in Mongolia. 2. something written or inscribed in such characters. 3. an aphorism, poem, or saying with mystical meaning or for use in casting a spell.

I always thought a viking-themed house would be cool. I wonder if this could be it. If this is so, it would be awesome to hear some Amon Amarth in the queue.

[Cinderelly115]

rune

noun /ro͞on/ 

runes, plural

A letter of an ancient Germanic alphabet, related to the Roman alphabet

A similar mark of mysterious or magic significance

Small stones, pieces of bone, etc., bearing such marks, and used as divinatory symbols

- the casting of the runes

A spell or incantation

A section of the Kalevala or of an ancient Scandinavian poem

Edited May 17, 2011 by Cinderelly115

[traveller]

Could be about the rune stones.

The Origins of Rune Stones:

According to the "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Divination" the word "rune" means "whisper" or "secret". Indeed runes are thought by some to be a way of interacting with both the spirit and the living world. The system of divination by runes can be attributed to two tribes who came together and produced a combination of symbols and old signs which were found on a variety of paintings, ritual and domestic items in the North from as early as Paleolithic times. However there are other myths surrounding the origins of the runes including the Volsungr, a Northern ancestral tribe who crossed into Europe before the Ice Age.

There is also a myth relating to Odin a God of wisdom, divination and the Horde of the Dead". After hanging down on the "World Tree for nine days", he realised or "saw" at the end of his "shamanistic journey

from---www.paranormality.com/runes.shtml - Similar

Edited May 17, 2011 by traveller

[killswitch22]

I have a few theories

1. Could be something literary. Possibly a library or a place where an author writes since rune means "words"

2. Incorporation of Harry Potter. The only reason I say this is the hint at magic.

3. Catacombs sequel. Since it was underground there had to be rocks with things written or drawn on them.

4. Our dreams have come true with a Runescape house. Where we are taken to a mideival time and go throughout the land. To kill boars and help with quests.

[Mark M.]

Today EmericBelasco sent me a PM requesting that the account be canceled. Please don't speculate on this, it's just a note in case anyone is looking for the person to post anything new here.