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HHN XXI Speculation


Mark M.

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Hello guys & gals. I got the Horror Nights itch today. I'm liking the little rumors floating around.

The Thing returning has been a rumor every year since 08. Even with the new movie opening I doubt it will make an appearance. A return of Catacombs would be excellent. Normally I would say a SS upgrade is in order but that house doesn't need it. This Casino/Vegas theme surprises me that Universal has never taken a crack at it. The idea alone comes off as a street heavy year along with a gambling Icon of some sort. Could be fun.

Let's hope for another Islands of Fear & Reflections of Fear year! ;)

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I was part of the Orlando Fringe flash mob on Church Street back on the 7th, so I can definitely say that they attract crowds when done properly (the organizers were part of the Millenia flash mob and learned from those mistakes). Of course, it all depends on how well it matches the tone of the scarezone; Treaks and Foons wouldn't seem particularly out of place suddenly bursting into a dance routine for no reason, but Deadtropolis or Saws n' Steam would certainly seem odd and distracting.

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Are you kidding me?!? A flash mob, really? This is Halloween Horror Nights not friggin Candy Land. I want to fear the people in the streets not watch them break out into some dance or rendition of something. If they want to have a flash mob and every scareactor chase me at the same time out of the zone that's one thing.

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I have to agree that the idea of a flash mob sounds kind of... lame and pointless. Though, if every scareacter just froze randomly for 5 minutes, music stopped, and then started scaring again randomly and music started simultaneously.. that would be cool.

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While I don't know anything more about this year, the same source who told me that we'd be seeing Cindy with a house of her own last year before any of the visible props appeared has said on another forum that we "know nothing" about this year.

I think this means the gambling and casino guesses are off the mark.

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I am so totally out of the loop with speculation; I haven't even been on this site in a few months because frankly, I just don't have the time. Maybe one day I'll go back and read all 45 pages of speculation, but as far as what I've heard, it's a big, fat, nothing. NOTHING!! I have no idea what we'll be doing this year, but as usual, I'm really looking forward to it, and already feeling a bit in the Halloween spirit.

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Mark Twain quotation. Funny you write that. Could we be looking at a horror nights on the banks of the mighty Mississippi? Perhaps ideas that revolve around bringing to life the evil in classic American literature?

Also, I seem to remember Mike A. writing a Facebook post around the use of the N-Word in some of Twains literature. Could it be that Mike is researching literature from the early days of American society. What if HHN spent a year covering backwood and swamp type themes?

Just a thought.

If that were to be the case, does that mean The Storyteller would return?

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If that were to be the case, does that mean The Storyteller would return?

Brand new slate this year so its a good chance that will be a no. My only guess that there can be SOME info(most likely no from most of you who have done this for years) at the reunion auditions since who knows a new year,new decade, could be a surprise to vets seeing a hint from there and not digging in the net or getting clues from the workers who are on board with the planning.

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If that were to be the case, does that mean The Storyteller would return?

Aiming to get hired again? :P

From all I know, this is a total "clean slate" year that truly began in 2010; they used last year to give the past 19 a final hurrah and find new themes and characters popular enough to make into the new Psychoscarepy or Body Collectors. I don't doubt we'll see little hints and nods to the past as Easter Eggs, but bringing back entire characters or houses would go against what A&D said they were doing.

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Brand new slate this year so its a good chance that will be a no. My only guess that there can be SOME info(most likely no from most of you who have done this for years) at the reunion auditions since who knows a new year,new decade, could be a surprise to vets seeing a hint from there and not digging in the net or getting clues from the workers who are on board with the planning.

Don't expect any info to trickle out once the auditions start. The only hint we may get is if they ask if people are willing to shave their heads again. Last year, they flat out told all the auditioners, "We can't tell you anything. Sorry." They didn't even tell us details at orientation, other than some of the character names were coded ("Con Artist" was a clever one, I'll admit). You can look at the character names from last year, and they're all very vague or slightly misleading (except for Hades). I can tell you most of the "Doctors" in the Catacombs didn't realize we were "Plague Doctors" (and what that meant) until our rehearsal.

A&D really clamped down last year, and with the disappearance of Emeric, I'm inclined to believe that they are clamping down even more this year (considering he was our only source outside of people flat out breaking the rules and taking pictures back-stage). Essentially, all we'll be able to do is speculate on the "Rune Room" and "Roll the dice," knowing full well that they may not mean anything at all.

Hollywood already has the house code-names, straight from the designer. HoS has their big hint drop. I feel like Oliver Twist.

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Hollywood already has the house code-names, straight from the designer. HoS has their big hint drop. I feel like Oliver Twist.

I hear ya. The ONLY real reaon to even think about HHN before it happens is to speculate and deduce. If thats all we are going to get... My interest will wan unitl the site reveal. I don't know why they are so strict with the info. The GP doesn't care and the rabid fans want to know stuff before it happens. I already have people asking me "what's the theme?" and all I can truthfully say is "I don't know". Not even a good solid lead yet.

I'm sure we will find stuff out anyway... Hey we are resourceful and where there is a will there is a way. But each year we get less and less.

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Yeah I got that in the mail. It doesn't even tell the dates! Let alone a single clue. Unless a rock wall of some kind has a factor in the event...

A rock wall! It's Stonehenge! We're getting a "Seven Wonders of the World Theme!" A celtic/Stonehenge theme (probably in Tent 1 with the Rune Room). I Chinese/Mongol/Great Wall theme (the Terra Cotta Warriors will be awesome!). An Arab/Hanging Gardens environment theme. A Pyramid/Mummy's Curse Theme. Eiffel Tower/Catacombs sequel. A Zombiefied Taj Mahal. The Colisseum/Roman Warrior theme... They'll have the entrance in IoA so they can use the Lighthouse of Alexandria!

I really could do this all day. Why do I not work for A&D again?

EDIT - I know this post probably reeks, because I just pulled it out of my @$$. I'm joking, but hey, we can at least get three pages of discussion out of it.

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A rock wall! It's Stonehenge! We're getting a "Seven Wonders of the World Theme!" A celtic/Stonehenge theme (probably in Tent 1 with the Rune Room). I Chinese/Mongol/Great Wall theme (the Terra Cotta Warriors will be awesome!). An Arab/Hanging Gardens environment theme. A Pyramid/Mummy's Curse Theme. Eiffel Tower/Catacombs sequel. A Zombiefied Taj Mahal. The Colisseum/Roman Warrior theme... They'll have the entrance in IoA so they can use the Lighthouse of Alexandria!

I really could do this all day. Why do I not work for A&D again?

EDIT - I know this post probably reeks, because I just pulled it out of my @$$. I'm joking, but hey, we can at least get three pages of discussion out of it.

That rock wall is the one we keep slamming our heads into.

And, Legacy, the stuff you pull out of your nethers is 10x better than half the stuff out there. I wonder why you don't work for A&D, too.

Mae

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That rock wall is the one we keep slamming our heads into.

And, Legacy, the stuff you pull out of your nethers is 10x better than half the stuff out there. I wonder why you don't work for A&D, too.

Mae

I'll admit, I'm (kinda) working on a portfolio to submit as an application. I'm a bit different in how the portfolio is built, because it's literally a "house in a can" that I haven't mentioned on here yet (and I won't). It includes a Sketch-Up walkthrough, costume designs, room concept art and scale-designs for the walls. I'll also admit though, that it may never come to fruition because I enjoy my career too much. Maybe when I retire I'll apply.

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While I don't know anything more about this year, the same source who told me that we'd be seeing Cindy with a house of her own last year before any of the visible props appeared has said on another forum that we "know nothing" about this year.

I think this means the gambling and casino guesses are off the mark.

At least we've been given something before Emric left. I think somebody quite a few pages ago has speculated on maybe a house with alternate paths or something. That could be a possibility. Any other possible leads?

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At least we've been given something before Emric left. I think somebody quite a few pages ago has speculated on maybe a house with alternate paths or something. That could be a possibility. Any other possible leads?

It's vaguely been discussed before, and is not "unheard" of. Houses that had a second story had alternate paths for individuals and their entourages who were unable to climb them. Run, famously, had multiple paths where scareactors could close doors and block force people a different way (to emphasize the "trapped" feeling). They stopped it after one weekend. Screamhouse had an "alternate room" that would get people so confused they would walk through the same two rooms for fifteen minutes (no joke). For you veterans who remember Screamhouse, the "basement" allowed guests to turn left and stay in the dark, or go straight into a red-strobed "Bondage Room" (so name because of the costume). They would walk out of that room and, instead of turning right to continue with the house, would just keep turning left in a massive circle. As they went the wrong way, they would convince guests who were correct to turn around and get everyone stuck. The closed off the second room during the second weekend. There are just too many "guests issues" with using multiple paths.

The Conga-Line: I have watched guests, while following the person in front of them, walk around in a circle, or go straight through a boo-hole because all they are doing is following the person in front of them. It happens far more often then you think. You see the same mentality when loading on the Mummy (where it branches right before the loading platform), when one side will be completely empty and everyone else is just standing in line on one side. Even with a Ride Attendant telling people to use both sides, they just stand there. That problem will be exacerbated in a dark haunted house where, for many guests, the person directly in front of them is a form of security. This would lead to long down times for scareacters who are just standing in their boo-hole, waiting for someone to "choose" their path. That ruins the rhythm of the scare and makes for a long, not fun night.

Indecisiveness: In the Coughin' Room in Catacombs last year, numerous people (at least twice a night) would stop dead in their tracks because they didn't know which "way" to go. This was with two scareacters in the only two other "paths" and an op waving a flashlight towards the exit of the room. It stopped the entire house because people couldn't figure out how to walk forward. Give people an actual choice and that wait will become longer... unless...

The Solution: The best way to prevent the above problems is to not give the guests the choice. This can be done by changing the path with each set and the Ops perform a "cut off" depending on which Cast is on set, or have a Scareactor who forces guests the way they can go (which can be done by literally shutting the door in their face and breaking the congo-line). The problem remains, however, in how guests will act. Returning to last year, guests would literally try pushing past us to get through our boo-holes because they thought that was the way they were suppose to go. A scareactor shutting a door in front of someone is going to cause problems, because the guest will either get angry and confront the scareactor or freak out and refuse to move. Having an Op do it isn't much better, plus it takes away from any atmosphere the effect is suppose to achieve.

Plus the fact that if you block one entrance, you have to block that path's exit as well so guest to try to turn in that direction. If you have to pay for multiple scareactors, equipment and props for multiple paths, etc. It is possible, but I, truly, don't expect to see it any time soon.

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A&D really clamped down last year, and with the disappearance of Emeric, I'm inclined to believe that they are clamping down even more this year (considering he was our only source outside of people flat out breaking the rules and taking pictures back-stage). Essentially, all we'll be able to do is speculate on the "Rune Room" and "Roll the dice," knowing full well that they may not mean anything at all.

Emeric had his membership here at HNN removed and closed his Facebook and Qik accounts all at the same time on May 18. It has now been five days and he has not closed his Twitter account. If his intention then, was to "disappear" completely one would expect he would have closed that Twitter account by now. Therefore I do not necessarily think we have heard the last from him.

Yeah I got that in the mail. It doesn't even tell the dates! Let alone a single clue. Unless a rock wall of some kind has a factor in the event...

A rock wall? A brick wall? IT'S CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED!!! Keep thinking to yourself "a brick wall, a brick wall"!!!

I have watched guests, while following the person in front of them, walk around in a circle, or go straight through a boo-hole because all they are doing is following the person in front of them. It happens far more often then you think.

This has happened to me more than once, in spite of my years of experience as an HHN guest. Most recently in Dracula: Legacy of Blood, I went in while it was still bright daylight and was so blinded in the dark house that I walked right into a boo-hole completely unawares with my hands outstretched before me and accidentally groped a scareactor playing Dracula right in his face. (sorry Kyle!)

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Don't expect any info to trickle out once the auditions start. The only hint we may get is if they ask if people are willing to shave their heads again. Last year, they flat out told all the auditioners, "We can't tell you anything. Sorry." They didn't even tell us details at orientation, other than some of the character names were coded ("Con Artist" was a clever one, I'll admit). You can look at the character names from last year, and they're all very vague or slightly misleading (except for Hades). I can tell you most of the "Doctors" in the Catacombs didn't realize we were "Plague Doctors" (and what that meant) until our rehearsal.

A&D really clamped down last year, and with the disappearance of Emeric, I'm inclined to believe that they are clamping down even more this year (considering he was our only source outside of people flat out breaking the rules and taking pictures back-stage). Essentially, all we'll be able to do is speculate on the "Rune Room" and "Roll the dice," knowing full well that they may not mean anything at all.

Hollywood already has the house code-names, straight from the designer. HoS has their big hint drop. I feel like Oliver Twist.

figures as much :P. I don't mind being surprised since the costumes are always kickass imo. I'm sure most of those people who got Doctor and then saw the plague doctor costumes went crazy. I know when i was assigned as army i was thinking of something completely different and then i saw that i was gunna look like a molten spartan i was pretty damn excited by then.

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figures as much :P. I don't mind being surprised since the costumes are always kickass imo. I'm sure most of those people who got Doctor and then saw the plague doctor costumes went crazy. I know when i was assigned as army i was thinking of something completely different and then i saw that i was gunna look like a molten spartan i was pretty damn excited by then.

We were excited about the costumes when we first saw them, but it didn't sink in until we after we rehearsed with them that we realized just how amazing they were. What people don't realize is that it's the Body Collector coat with a black T-Shirt and different mask, plus hat and gloves. I still had the old BC buttons on my costume during opening night.

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Cleaned up the topic due to all of the off-topic posts pertaining personal stories of lighting, multiple paths, drunks, etc. Let's please stay on topic and stick to speculation. :)

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