HHN Hollywood X (2011) Speculation

[DTH316]

*sighs* I was really hoping he wouldn't say it was 3DN being announced next... now we just KNOW what it is. A bit underwhelming but oh well. At least I got The Thing to look forward to

I'll be SUPER surprised if it's not Hostel. Like, I'll fall to the floor SHOCKED. And right now, seeing as only 1 maze takes place in the US, I WANT TO BE SHOCKED and I want Scream to come!!!!

Dear God, please make it happen!

[djevilclown]

Damnit I said the same thing Stevenfor what time did you tweet that I figured it out yesterday lol

[Tmrw]

Damnit I said the same thing Stevenfor what time did you tweet that I figured it out yesterday lol

45 minutes ago, at least thats what twitter says i could be mistaken though

my twitter sometimes lags with times so it couldve been sooner

[djevilclown]

I figured it out yesterday when I was thinking of non horror movies affiliated with Eli if were right what an amazing link to the movie hostel

[HorrorNights93]

Steven just cracked the code possibly yaaaay hopefully youll be Murdys lucky winner On anoother note sigh* not only is it on the FB page but i see its also from a few people on here smh. Its like NOTHING satisfies HHN Fans these days.We get some repeats..we complain(well thats more of a valid reason)..we get something new we still complain. Now lets say 3DN= Hostel..why would anyone be disappointed ? for god FREAKING sakes its something new to HHN would you rather it be a NOES part 4 ? I mean im not saying Hostel was the BEST property to choose from over other horror films Murdy could of better utlitized but Murdy saw a oppurtunity and took it i dont blame him. Hostel IS something recognizable and the films arent half bad. Now Murdy might be braking a few of his own rules but hey the way i look at it is as something NEW. We havent even stepped foot in the maze yet and it irritates me when i see people on the FB page or anybody in that case prejudging the maze and claiming "it wont be worth the wait..or ill be disappointed" like who cares go to Knotts if your not satisfied. Now some people might think its going to be a trip through the saw maze which is not true. Sure they might re-use some of the props but its a diffrent property which means it might be the same concept but it will be something NEW well be walking through and getting the shit scared out of us. I dont think HHN will disappoint with it at all.This isnt directed specifically towards anyone in general. Now thats just my two cents on that...

However this shows if something like Hostel could be thrown in the mix basically any horror film producer murdy is friends with can have there movie featured. Its no longer about how goood this film did or how fresh it is...its all about who you know and how they can be put to use. Im sure Murdy has attempted to get the rights to diffrent properties (Scream ,Exorcist etc.) but if he cant get them he has to work with what he has its as simple as that. Another reason if we had more original content this wouldnt be a problem .

Well i been checking all day for this maze announcement and turns out well be getting it sometime during the day tomorrow and hopefully it will be worth the wait

Also after the TrT and Hatchet nonsense i hope kushzombie doesnt feel that he cant post on here. ANYONE is always welcome to come speculate with us and i hope he doesnt feel uncomfortable posting on here any longer. I just noticed it and i hope nobody scared him off after that incident so if he sees this feel free to join back in. Mods please dont delete this..it was just something on my mind

Edited July 27, 2011 by HorrorNights93

[Freak]

Steven just cracked the code possibly yaaaay hopefully youll be Murdys lucky winner On anoother note sigh* not only is it on the FB page but i see its also from a few people on here smh. Its like NOTHING satisfies HHN Fans these days.We get some repeats..we complain(well thats more of a valid reason)..we get something new we still complain. Now lets say 3DN= Hostel..why would anyone be disappointed ? for god FREAKING sakes its something new to HHN would you rather it be a NOES part 4 ? I mean im not saying Hostel was the BEST property to choose from over other horror films Murdy could of better utlitized but Murdy saw a oppurtunity and took it i dont blame him. Hostel IS something recognizable and the films arent half bad. Now Murdy might be braking a few of his own rules but hey the way i look at it is as something NEW. We havent even stepped foot in the maze yet and it irritates me when i see people on the FB page or anybody in that case prejudging the maze and claiming "it wont be worth the wait..or ill be disappointed" like who cares go to Knotts if your not satisfied. Now some people might think its going to be a trip through the saw maze which is not true. Sure they might re-use some of the props but its a diffrent property which means it might be the same concept but it will be something NEW well be walking through and getting the s*** scared out of us. I dont think HHN will disappoint with it at all.This isnt directed specifically towards anyone in general. Now thats just my two cents on that...

While I'm not really excited about Hostel for reasons I am going to mention, you are right. At least this will be a new maze and will sure beat the heck outta NoES round four or Saw: Game Still Not Over round three. What concerns me and other fans on here is that this is the same concept of Saw. Plain and simple torture. This will be the third year in a row the lower lot maze will have a torture-themed maze. Heck, management could have Murdy reuse the same layout as Saw like Orlando did with Havoc where they reused the Spawning layout. Assuming this will be in the Mummy venue, the maze looks like it'll be different, but it's the layout part that concerns me. It's given that they are totally going to reuse props from Saw (Remember the boiler?), but I hope half of the maze won't be all recycled props.

However this shows if something like Hostel could be thrown in the mix basically any horror film producer murdy is friends with can have there movie featured. Its no longer about how goood this film did or how fresh it is...its all about who you know and how they can be put to use. Im sure Murdy has attempted to get the rights to diffrent properties (Scream ,Exorcist etc.) but if he cant get them he has to work with what he has its as simple as that. Another reason if we had more original content this wouldnt be a problem .

This is why management should be convinced to do at least one legit original maze for next year. Oh wait, this the 2011 spec. thread. Forget what I said.

Well i been checking all day for this maze announcement and turns out well be getting it sometime during the day tomorrow and hopefully it will be worth the wait

It'll be mid-afternoon. Gosh, the wait has been torture!

Also after the TrT and Hatchet nonsense i hope kushzombie doesnt feel that he cant post on here. ANYONE is always welcome to come speculate with us and i hope he doesnt feel uncomfortable posting on here any longer. I just noticed it and i hope nobody scared him off after that incident so if he sees this feel free to join back in. Mods please dont delete this..it was just something on my mind

He's totally free to come back and speculate with us and we encourage him to join the discussion again if he wants (Just not about TrT and Hatchet. LOL). But I don't think he's coming back. I'll just leave it at that.

[Dr. Satan]

In place of the chainsaw pigs... erm... "Jigsaw minions", how about some Elite Hunters with chainsaws?

[jymmymack]

I think it is Hostel, but I don't think that broken neck=Donnie from Inglorious Basterds. That just seems like a stretch. We never really see Donnie break anyone's neck. Crush skulls? Sure do. However, Eli Roth did have his head ripped from his body in Grindhouse (his self-directed Thanksgiving trailer). I am disappointed with Hostel and here's why. I understand that HHN has a history combining scares AND gore, but Hostel doesn't carry anyway real scares in it. The subject matter is frightening in that it might really happen, but the only real fear is that you might be grossed out. Even the original Saw had a variety of creepy/frightening elements (Billy, the Pig mask in the pitch-black room). Plus at least you could be slightly interested in the level of detailing in the traps of Saw, but Hostel just is everyday torture porn stuff (scalpel, drills, saws). For the record, I like the first Hostel and think it's underrated. It is an interesting and creepy take on the nature of consumerism. But I don't think it is the best maze material.

Edited July 27, 2011 by jymmymack

[HorrorNights93]

While I'm not really excited about Hostel for reasons I am going to mention, you are right. At least this will be a new maze and will sure beat the heck outta NoES round four or Saw: Game Still Not Over round three. What concerns me and other fans on here is that this is the same concept of Saw. Plain and simple torture. This will be the third year in a row the lower lot maze will have a torture-themed maze. Heck, management could have Murdy reuse the same layout as Saw like Orlando did with Havoc where they reused the Spawning layout. Assuming this will be in the Mummy venue, the maze looks like it'll be different, but it's the layout part that concerns me. It's given that they are totally going to reuse props from Saw (Remember the boiler?), but I hope half of the maze won't be all recycled props.

Like i said earlier it will not be the same as the Saw maze. Yes they will most likely re-use some of the props from the saw maze and i said SOME....and second they will feel similar because its based on the same concept. But i dont think anyone should go in thinking "this is just going to be another remake of the saw maze" when we should be thinking "hey nice of murdy to give us something NEW why not give it a chance before prejudging it" But i understand what your saying IF we do get hostel it will be another maze based on watching people get tortured and boo holes etc. None the less it beats having Saw: Lets Continue the Games... The enviroments and the characters will be diffrent also the scareactors and scares not to mention so that should be something to look forward to. As long as everything isn't fully recycled from Saw it has a chance of being one of HHN best mazes..heck it might even be better than the past two Saw mazes

[jymmymack]

Not being a jerk or anything, but how would we know if it has a chance of being the best maze? For one, we don't even know what the rest of the mazes are. Second, you even said that it will more than likely all boo holes and torture. How would that equal the best maze?

[Freak]

@HorrorNights93: I agree. I don't want to judge the book by its cover, but I can't help but think that it may feel too similar to Saw. I'm not saying it won't be a good maze, but it's that "recycling" possibility that concerns me. In a sense, I guess it's good that some of us are a tad skeptical about this since we will have lower expectations for this maze, thus allowing it to really surprise us on how good the maze shall be when we go through it.

Despite the "recycling" concerns I have for this maze, I do think this will work better than Saw. Instead of the pigs just setting up torture devices for the victims, you have the actual torturers going after you. I'll give this maze a chance if it's announced, but in the meantime, I'll keep my expectations low so that I'll be pleasantly surprised when I go through the maze.

[HorrorNights93]

@HorrorNights93: I agree. I don't want to judge the book by its cover, but I can't help but think that it may feel too similar to Saw. I'm not saying it won't be a good maze, but it's that "recycling" possibility that concerns me. In a sense, I guess it's good that some of us are a tad skeptical about this since we will have lower expectations for this maze, thus allowing it to really surprise us on how good the maze shall be when we go through it.

Despite the "recycling" concerns I have for this maze, I do think this will work better than Saw. Instead of the pigs just setting up torture devices for the victims, you have the actual torturers going after you. I'll give this maze a chance if it's announced, but in the meantime, I'll keep my expectations low so that I'll be pleasantly surprised when I go through the maze.

Yea i can see how people might feel a little skeptical on this because of its relationship similar to saw but geez its something NEW. I rather them recycle a few props than a WHOLE MAZE Keeping your expectations low might be a good thing so if its better you can give it a good review

Not being a jerk or anything, but how would we know if it has a chance of being the best maze? For one, we don't even know what the rest of the mazes are. Second, you even said that it will more than likely all boo holes and torture. How would that equal the best maze?

We wouldnt know thats the thing so prejudging it gets us NOWHERE ! and i said it as a possibility. There is a 50/50 chance some might like this more than the mazes well be going through this year and some will not. And im sure it will be more than boo holes and torture i also put "etc." which means other components that make up a maze. I said it might be the best maze..not literally that its going to but it DOES have a CHANCE like any other maze. You cant just assume its gonna be a repeat of saw or a disappointing maze if you havent even stepped foot in the maze and thats were i think the problem arises. Just because it has a similar theme does not mean it will be a complete similar maze

Edited July 27, 2011 by HorrorNights93

[Grindhousehero13]

In place of the chainsaw pigs... erm... "Jigsaw minions", how about some Elite Hunters with chainsaws?

A Scarezone full of this=Win!

[HorrorNights93]

a SZ full of those would be BAD ASS! didnt murdy say we would be getting a maze/sz combo this year ? hmmmmm

[jymmymack]

Just saying, pre-judging goes both ways. Saying something has a chance of being the best is the same as something has a chance of being the worst. Nobody knows for sure. I'm not saying it'll be the worst, I'm saying that I personally am not looking forward to it, but to each his own. Some may not be stoked for The Thing, but that's their opinion and I respect it.

[Dr. Satan]

Just saying, pre-judging goes both ways. Saying something has a chance of being the best is the same as something has a chance of being the worst. Nobody knows for sure. I'm not saying it'll be the worst, I'm saying that I personally am not looking forward to it, but to each his own. Some may not be stoked for The Thing, but that's their opinion and I respect it.

As long as there isn't a guy who is

getting his balls cut off with scissors

in Hostel, I think it'll be a fine maze.

Edited July 27, 2011 by Dr. Satan

[HorrorNights93]

Just saying, pre-judging goes both ways. Saying something has a chance of being the best is the same as something has a chance of being the worst. Nobody knows for sure. I'm not saying it'll be the worst, I'm saying that I personally am not looking forward to it, but to each his own. Some may not be stoked for The Thing, but that's their opinion and I respect it.

I'm not quite sure how to say this in a way you'll understand but ill re-clarify my points. In this situation the judgement is only going in one direction. When people say they'll be disappointed,it wont be a good maze etc. that's were the negative judgment is coming in at. I NEVER said it's going to be a GREAT maze...i said it has a POSSIBILITY. NO ONE has stepped foot in that maze so no one has the RIGHTS to bash it. Its annoying because people like to complain when we get repeats,which is reasonable but when we get something NEW too!??! come on that's just wrong were does murdy get to win at in this situation its like a lose/lose situation for him. He cant please everyone. Everyone has there opinion and there entitled to it...i respect each and everyone's opinion on here but doesn't mean i wont call out on anything that i feel is wrong. I'm just saying would you rather have Saw part 3 or Hostel ?? hopefully it wont be a tough choice for you. Its the fact of the matter it feels like hhn fans will just NEVER be satisfied unless we get all the BIG films which wont be possible all the time. Sometime Murdy cant get the rights to certain films we all LOVE to see but at least he worked with what he got because i know i would be MAD AS HELL if i seen saw coming back and i know everyone could probably agree with me. End of Rant

Anyways im excited in LESS than 24hrs well finally know what the 3DN maze is. My guess will stay as Hostel but i would be SUPER SHOCKED if we were wrong lol

[zombieman]

i'll break it down like this

we know the 3DN hint correct

which all signs point to Eli Roth,

if the code Broken neck is "In The name"

He is the code, which means its something that has to do WITH Eli Roth

in which he was potrayed as The Bear Jew in Inglorious Bastards

who used a baseball bat to crack skulls and BREAK NECKS

^ why the hell didnt i think of this before -.-

I think you're dead-nuts on with this guess, and it will be Hostel.

And from the guy who never wants to see another movie-based maze, I'd take Hostel over Scream any day of the week. I know that steps on the feet of many around here, but even though I liked both movie franchises, I have never liked any Scream-based house or room I have ever been in - ever. I just don't find Ghostface to be a menacing character. So if Scream doesn't happen this year, I'll personally see it as a plus.

Hostel will lend itself very nicely to a house - just as Saw did in each of the 5 different incarnations around the country in 2009 (I had a chance to visit all of them). The torture rooms were the highlights of the Saw, F13, and TCM houses, and I believe they will be here as well. I'm personally curious to see if Murdy will "go there" with regard to Stuart's fate from part II. If it was 2006, they certainly would have, since blue humor was very much allowed that year. I'm crossing my fingers (and legs) that they have the cojones to do it.

[DTH316]

I'm going to state my reasons for why I'm not looking forward to Hostel. And then I'm going to state why I AM looking forward to it. I want to be fair and I want it to be a rational argument as to whether or not it's good material for a maze. The funny thing right now is, we're saying not to pre-judge that it'll be bad. But on that same token, we're claiming it has the possibility to be good. Sure, why not, but doesn't it also have the possibility to be bad? In effort not to sound like someone who is just taking a side onto which side of the spectrum I lie on, I'm going to fully put it all on the line. End of the day, opinions are opinions and at the end of the day, to say not to prejudge something as possibly being bad is the same thing as prejudging something to possibly being good. Sure, prejudgment that it'll be bad is negative and it's generally better to have a positive outlook on the event. But we care about this event, we wanna see it in tip top shape at all times so we're gonna have opinions on it in hopes they'll be heard, they'll be considered and that in the future, they'll be resolved. END OF THE DAY, we're all gonna go and have a fun time because Universal puts on a quality event. BUT, without complaints or feedback as to what we like, dislike, think about something coming and etc., an event can slip to the point where it's not just one maze is unlikeable but the ENTIRE EVENT. For example, Knotts. They address fan concerns but they never execute them right. So as much fun that I've had at the event in the past, I don't see things getting better and each year I go, I have less and less fun and see the whole event as kinda being just an average fun thing in comparison to Universal's HHN being an ultimate, epic fun thing. But I remember a time where Knotts used to be the ultimate to me and I would state my concerns, go the next year and still have lots of fun. And then it became year after year the same problems and the problems seemed to grow instead of decrease and now I no longer get excited for it. I mean, on the drive there, I plan on having fun, I look forward to it and I'm hoping things are fixed but then I'm inside, I'm going through mazes and then I might be a big disappointed on the critical side of things but I'm still coming out with a smile on my face. I'm having fun but I could be having BETTER fun. Fun is fun, right? Sure but better fun is... more fun. I want to be excited for Knotts again and each year they announce they're changing things and then it's never what it appears to be. One can only hope they'll actually do it right. And what I'm saying for Universal, when I'm disappointed or underwhelmed by something, is for hope that sure it's not the best but later, they can try to do it right.

Hostel pros:

- It'll be located in the venue where my favorite maze of the night usually is. It's always a top contender. That and WWW just have good luck with me.

- Super insanely gory. It'll be interesting to see how they pull some of that stuff off live with humans and dolls.

- Creepy location.

- Potential for lots of originality (like a lot of the made up Jason kills in the last F13 maze). Even entire rooms can be made up.

- Scary as hell weapons.

Hostel cons:

- Unscary villains. Maybe some medieval masks but other than that, regular dudes with stuff covering their mouths.

- Only ONE location that as creepy as it is, I see getting old really fast.

- Unmemorable elements. (This is what made MBV so "eh" to me. Not much foundation built on it to make me excited about where I was, who I was seeing or what I heard). Without this, there's no excitement.

- The movies feel like a long time ago now, with not much of a reminder other than a DTV film being released this year. Just isn't relevant anymore, not many people cared about it than ESPECIALLY when the sequel came out (I remember it bombing horribly) and certainly, not that many people care about it now... and it hasn't held up as much as even some older films, such as, let's say The Blob or even the original The Thing or ofcourse, The Exorcist and Poltergeist. And I think Hostel Part II is one of the worst movies I've EVER seen in my life, in general. Doesn't have to do much with the maze but I'm just saying.

- Torture element. Room after room, watching people tied to chairs or strapped down and being killed. Very Saw-esque, worked than but might be boring now.

- No recognizable music. This harkens back to unmemorable elements but this is a very crucial element to a maze that I felt it deserved it's own bullet.

So I think the cons here outweigh the pros by a bit of a margin. Still hoping we're all absolutely wrong but if not, at least The Thing sounds BADASS.

Edited July 27, 2011 by DTH316

[DireBrian]

IF IT IS HOSTEL (Which nothing has been confirmed yet)

Do you think they'll show the chick's eye exploding?

[jymmymack]

I'm going to state my reasons for why I'm not looking forward to Hostel. And then I'm going to state why I AM looking forward to it. I want to be fair and I want it to be a rational argument as to whether or not it's good material for a maze. The funny thing right now is, we're saying not to pre-judge that it'll be bad. But on that same token, we're claiming it has the possibility to be good. Sure, why not, but doesn't it also have the possibility to be bad? In effort not to sound like someone who is just taking a side onto which side of the spectrum I lie on, I'm going to fully put it all on the line. End of the day, opinions are opinions and at the end of the day, to say not to prejudge something as possibly being bad is the same thing as prejudging something to possibly being good. Sure, prejudgment that it'll be bad is negative and it's generally better to have a positive outlook on the event. But we care about this event, we wanna see it in tip top shape at all times so we're gonna have opinions on it in hopes they'll be heard, they'll be considered and that in the future, they'll be resolved. END OF THE DAY, we're all gonna go and have a fun time because Universal puts on a quality event. BUT, without complaints or feedback as to what we like, dislike, think about something coming and etc., an event can slip to the point where it's not just one maze is unlikeable but the ENTIRE EVENT. For example, Knotts. They address fan concerns but they never execute them right. So as much fun that I've had at the event in the past, I don't see things getting better and each year I go, I have less and less fun and see the whole event as kinda being just an average fun thing in comparison to Universal's HHN being an ultimate, epic fun thing. But I remember a time where Knotts used to be the ultimate to me and I would state my concerns, go the next year and still have lots of fun. And then it became year after year the same problems and the problems seemed to grow instead of decrease and now I no longer get excited for it. I mean, on the drive there, I plan on having fun, I look forward to it and I'm hoping things are fixed but then I'm inside, I'm going through mazes and then I might be a big disappointed on the critical side of things but I'm still coming out with a smile on my face. I'm having fun but I could be having BETTER fun. Fun is fun, right? Sure but better fun is... more fun. I want to be excited for Knotts again and each year they announce they're changing things and then it's never what it appears to be. One can only hope they'll actually do it right. And what I'm saying for Universal, when I'm disappointed or underwhelmed by something, is for hope that sure it's not the best but later, they can try to do it right.

Hostel pros:

- It'll be located in the venue where my favorite maze of the night usually is. It's always a top contender. That and WWW just have good luck with me.

- Super insanely gory. It'll be interesting to see how they pull some of that stuff off live with humans and dolls.

- Creepy location.

- Potential for lots of originality (like a lot of the made up Jason kills in the last F13 maze). Even entire rooms can be made up.

- Scary as hell weapons.

Hostel cons:

- Unscary villains. Maybe some medieval masks but other than that, regular dudes with stuff covering their mouths.

- Only ONE location that as creepy as it is, I see getting old really fast.

- Unmemorable elements. (This is what made MBV so "eh" to me. Not much foundation built on it to make me excited about where I was, who I was seeing or what I heard). Without this, there's no excitement.

- The movies feel like a long time ago now, with not much of a reminder other than a DTV film being released this year. Just isn't relevant anymore, not many people cared about it than ESPECIALLY when the sequel came out (I remember it bombing horribly) and certainly, not that many people care about it now... and it hasn't held up as much as even some older films, such as, let's say The Blob or even the original The Thing or ofcourse, The Exorcist and Poltergeist. And I think Hostel Part II is one of the worst movies I've EVER seen in my life, in general. Doesn't have to do much with the maze but I'm just saying.

- Torture element. Room after room, watching people tied to chairs or strapped down and being killed. Very Saw-esque, worked than but might be boring now.

- No recognizable music. This harkens back to unmemorable elements but this is a very crucial element to a maze that I felt it deserved it's own bullet.

So I think the cons here outweigh the pros by a bit of a margin. Still hoping we're all absolutely wrong but if not, at least The Thing sounds BADASS.

Thank you, DTH. That was exactly my point. I was saying that you can't get all over people for not being excited about it or "Prejudging" without saying the same for those that are excited about it. I was trying to point out that some will like it others won't. I wasn't implying that anyone said it would be great, I was implying that saying it COULD be great is the exact same thing as saying it COULD be horrible. Also, 93 I understood what you were saying. Now let me put this in a way that YOU'LL understand: everyone on this board is entitled to their opinion, not just those who like the idea of Hostel.

Edited July 27, 2011 by jymmymack

[Mr. Cleaver]

Hostel pros:

- It'll be located in the venue where my favorite maze of the night usually is. It's always a top contender. That and WWW just have good luck with me.

- Super insanely gory. It'll be interesting to see how they pull some of that stuff off live with humans and dolls.

- Creepy location.

- Potential for lots of originality (like a lot of the made up Jason kills in the last F13 maze). Even entire rooms can be made up.

- Scary as hell weapons.

Hostel cons:

- Unscary villains. Maybe some medieval masks but other than that, regular dudes with stuff covering their mouths.

- Only ONE location that as creepy as it is, I see getting old really fast.

- Unmemorable elements. (This is what made MBV so "eh" to me. Not much foundation built on it to make me excited about where I was, who I was seeing or what I heard). Without this, there's no excitement.

- The movies feel like a long time ago now, with not much of a reminder other than a DTV film being released this year. Just isn't relevant anymore, not many people cared about it than ESPECIALLY when the sequel came out (I remember it bombing horribly) and certainly, not that many people care about it now... and it hasn't held up as much as even some older films, such as, let's say The Blob or even the original The Thing or ofcourse, The Exorcist and Poltergeist. And I think Hostel Part II is one of the worst movies I've EVER seen in my life, in general. Doesn't have to do much with the maze but I'm just saying.

- Torture element. Room after room, watching people tied to chairs or strapped down and being killed. Very Saw-esque, worked than but might be boring now.

- No recognizable music. This harkens back to unmemorable elements but this is a very crucial element to a maze that I felt it deserved it's own bullet.

I've been thinking about this a bit, and I'm not convinced that it really fits Murdy's 'criteria.' Now, it's been quite a while since I've seen Hostel, so I'm going to assume the role of GP here.

When I think back to the film, I remember little beyond sex scenes, vomiting, missing finger, and a girl who's face is blow-torched off. This tells me there's a lack of signature/memorable kills, moments, hell even characters. I wouldn't recognize any of the cast from Hostel if they were standing right next to me. Even those 'elite hunters,' as cool as they look, don't scream Hostel to me. I just see more damn Saw pigs with new heads. I would expect a lot of scenes that are overly gruesome, but watching the kills usally aren't a good scare for me. At most it's "Whoa. Shit." or, if it turns out to be a distraction scare, "Shh, not now. This guy's dying."

On the plus side though, there's lots of room to take the idea and run with it. I keep thinking back to Run: Hostile Territory (which, in all likelyhood, got its name from a deviation of Hostel). A warehouse full of people killing for 'fun.' I think they could have a winner with this one if they make YOU the victim. Think about it: you're trapped in a building with sadistic killers, determined to get their money's worth out of their kill...you. I feel that'd be a much better, much scarier, much more original path than just "this guy died. This one too. This one's still dying." Not sure if I'm aking sense, but yeah. Skip the 'kill' scenes, add more 'attack' scenes.

[jymmymack]

I've been thinking about this a bit, and I'm not convinced that it really fits Murdy's 'criteria.' Now, it's been quite a while since I've seen Hostel, so I'm going to assume the role of GP here.

When I think back to the film, I remember little beyond sex scenes, vomiting, missing finger, and a girl who's face is blow-torched off. This tells me there's a lack of signature/memorable kills, moments, hell even characters. I wouldn't recognize any of the cast from Hostel if they were standing right next to me. Even those 'elite hunters,' as cool as they look, don't scream Hostel to me. I just see more damn Saw pigs with new heads. I would expect a lot of scenes that are overly gruesome, but watching the kills usally aren't a good scare for me. At most it's "Whoa. Shit." or, if it turns out to be a distraction scare, "Shh, not now. This guy's dying."

On the plus side though, there's lots of room to take the idea and run with it. I keep thinking back to Run: Hostile Territory (which, in all likelyhood, got its name from a deviation of Hostel). A warehouse full of people killing for 'fun.' I think they could have a winner with this one if they make YOU the victim. Think about it: you're trapped in a building with sadistic killers, determined to get their money's worth out of their kill...you. I feel that'd be a much better, much scarier, much more original path than just "this guy died. This one too. This one's still dying." Not sure if I'm aking sense, but yeah. Skip the 'kill' scenes, add more 'attack' scenes.

This is the only way I was thinking to make it legitimately scary. It's funny that you have a maze called "Run" but they will have people yelling "no running" when you're inside.

[Freak]

Hostel has been confirmed by Mr. Roth himself on his Twitter:

I'm doing a #Hostel maze @HorrorNights! Elite Hunting is open for business this September!!!! http://t.co/ZFfjdLf #amazeballs

Now we just need to figure out what the subtitle will be...

[Hhnh86987]

Everyone has to remember that when murdy chooses.a movie.some people are going to like it and.some aren't. So not every year is going to be perfect to your liking. (for amyone). I honestly believe that john murdy.could turn any movie into a maze and make it amazing with his talent. In the end of the day you go to hhnh because you love it. And no matter what mazes are there you will have fun. I personally have never been disappointed by murdy. Maybe a little when we got all of.those repeated. But thats my point like others its NEW!