Legacy Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 But, doesn't that go against the farewell idea used last year? Not if she's all grown up. Let's say she's turned 21. She would have to be old enough to work in a Casino, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8NiteEngineer Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I know everyone has been speculating about Luck, Fate, etc as a possible icon but the post on facebook stated: " Desire seduces you…and you forget that the House always wins." I'm also feeling that female-icon-vibe, but I'm stuck on the above statement" ...Desire? I can see that being connected to the overall theme of the event. Many have discussed that 21 is not only gambling but the legal drinking age... drinking / prohibition... prohibition & Atlantic City .... Atlantic City, music, gambling, drinking ...Desires. Could we see an icon that seduces and attracts people to indulge their desires in a place (Atlantic City / Sin City / whatever) where death awaits those who dare play in this playground? House always wins because you chose to enter, now all you have to do is pick your poison... Just thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Since it doesn't look like Legendary Truth the game is returning this year, I doubt they would tie a house to it. It's even less likely they would tie the Headline house to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 While I like everyone's speculation. I have noticed that some ideas have not been thrown out. Why does a gambling have to do with America? What about 1920's Morraco Africa region. Casablanca? Or here is the big one, dare I say........ French Riviera? They were gambling overseas long before America came into play. Also, everyone seems to mention a casino themed house, but what about a bar themed house. For many people, turning 21 dosent mean gambling. It means drinking legally. Would it stand to reason that we may likely see a bar (drinking-joint) type house? Just some speculation! One of the classic ways of celebrating your 21st birthday was to go to a casino and play a game of blackjack; you were playing 21 while you turned 21. Also, from what I've heard I would expect something that has to do with ships and water. But not necessarily as the main location of the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circ Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I've spent a few hours looking at the website and it screams to me Atlantic City, early 1910s-1930s. I just don't see Vegas with this. A few things led me to believe this: 1. AD like to try to throw people a little bit. I think the minute everyone saw cards, 21, "The House", Wager, we immediately jump to a Vegas theme, but we forget that Atlantic City was the orginal official gambling spot in America. 2. Atlantic City could be much creepier than Vegas. I also think that there will be Casino house/Boardwalk house. I would be interested if someone went back and looked at the permits and it might give you clues by checking out the structural specs. But with all that being said, I feel like this could be one of the best years in the past few years. Has lots of potential. Just my thoughts. Gambling in Atlantic City wasn't legalized until the 70s so I'm not exactly sure that's all that plausible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Gambling in Atlantic City wasn't legalized until the 70s so I'm not exactly sure that's all that plausible... LEGALIZED being the key word there. Nightclubs and restaurants regularly had backroom gambling during the Prohibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Gambling in Atlantic City wasn't legalized until the 70s so I'm not exactly sure that's all that plausible... From Wikipedia In the 1920s, with tourism at its peak, many historians consider this decade Atlantic City's golden age. During prohibition, liquor flowed freely and gambling regularly took place in the back rooms of nightclubs and restaurants. This era in the city's history has inspired the HBO Original Series Boardwalk Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karras Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) I don't think the event needs to be set in a specific city. Not saying A&D wont do that but it seems easier to just stage the event 20's-30's with Casino/Gambling vibe. Edited June 29, 2011 by Karras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senortico Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'm wondering what kind of vibe the houses are going to give off. Last year there were no "victims" so to speak. About 99% of the characters within the houses were very hostile towards you. No one was yelling "get out while you still can" type things. The only two that kind of were benevolent, which I am using loosely, were the Spirit Seekers employee at the beginning of LT and the spine girl at Hallow'd Past. I am wondering if they continue that and how it will fit in within the theme/setting of the overall event, whatever it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_orphan Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Does anyone else get the idea that the remaining hand has been charred off not cut? It could explain the smoke effect towards the end. It looks as if the hand was burned not cut. And I'm stretching it a little here but it does mention in the description of the event, about electrifying scarezones... What if our possible icon electricutes or burns their victims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Does anyone else get the idea that the remaining hand has been charred off not cut? It could explain the smoke effect towards the end. It looks as if the hand was burned not cut... What if our possible icon burns their victims? Oh, it's definitely a charred hand. And where there's smoke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Dog Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Personally, I don't want an icon this year. The past few years, we were always looking for clues for who the icon is. Just having the overall theme (gambling/Vegas/Atlantic City/etc.) would be good enough for me. The point brought up about the hand being charred off is interesting though. If it were burned in a fire, the hand itself would be more charred...Maybe it was blow torched off? The person in question was cheating or something? I don't know, just throwing things out here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I'm wondering what kind of vibe the houses are going to give off. Last year there were no "victims" so to speak. About 99% of the characters within the houses were very hostile towards you. No one was yelling "get out while you still can" type things. The only two that kind of were benevolent, which I am using loosely, were the Spirit Seekers employee at the beginning of LT and the spine girl at Hallow'd Past. I am wondering if they continue that and how it will fit in within the theme/setting of the overall event, whatever it may be. The overuse of "show scenes" was a big result of one particular person in A&D who left before the 2010 event, which resulted in major re-writing of the year. We're going to be seeing less victims mostly because of that change, rather than a direct attempt at a different vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallow Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The overuse of "show scenes" was a big result of one particular person in A&D who left before the 2010 event, which resulted in major re-writing of the year. We're going to be seeing less victims mostly because of that change, rather than a direct attempt at a different vibe. I wondered if "that particular person" was a major influence in the show scenes. I noticed they were largely absent from 2010's event. If that is to continue to be the case... how very disappointing. I felt the show scenes, when not used in excess, really set HHN above all of the other haunt events. The victim/kill sequences really created a sense of danger that made you fear the creatures or people or whatever in any given house. The lack of victim scenes nearly killed Legendary Truth, IMO. Here's hoping we'll get at least a few victim scenes this year. My friends' favorite moments from past years center around the spine rip, the Wolfman transformation, the Frankenstein heart rip, and pretty much all of the SAW traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostAlice Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Even though Cindy appeared last year, that doesn't necessarily mean she'll never come back. Last year was the first year we actually got to see her offically. Perhaps this year could finally be her time to shine. The smoke and the charred hand do seem to point toward our little pyromaniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The Atlantic City setting and time period for this theme makes me the most excited. There's a lot of historic material that could be fictionalized or used with creative license. I like it better than modern day Vegas, the Old West, or a ship style casino. I don't know why, but the riverboat idea makes me quickly think of Zombie Gras and its New Orleans/Cajun style. And, if stretched correctly, I think an official icon isn't necessary for this theme. A more static antagonist would be sufficient, someone to just lend their face to the event, and not necessarily be the central attraction. Like, have Lady Luck, Fate, or The Dealer, but let him/her be a device of the theme, instead of the theme being a projection of his/her psyche or character. Sort of a mix of how "What's Your Breaking Point?" was marketed/staged and how the Terra Queen ended up being used in Tales of Terror. More of a possibly, make them a device of the House -Mr. Grady, Overlook Hotel esque, not like how the icons were with Fear-. A&D would have more freedom with the individual house concepts if this was the case, and I agree with the people who've guessed that Universal might be trying out some new era dynasty house ideas. Oh, wow, a haunted house based around Dynasty... better stick with my day job. Or, at least jumping out at people for minimum wadge. : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senortico Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I wondered if "that particular person" was a major influence in the show scenes. I noticed they were largely absent from 2010's event. If that is to continue to be the case... how very disappointing. I felt the show scenes, when not used in excess, really set HHN above all of the other haunt events. The victim/kill sequences really created a sense of danger that made you fear the creatures or people or whatever in any given house. The lack of victim scenes nearly killed Legendary Truth, IMO. Here's hoping we'll get at least a few victim scenes this year. My friends' favorite moments from past years center around the spine rip, the Wolfman transformation, the Frankenstein heart rip, and pretty much all of the SAW traps. I see it the other way around. I felt with a greater urgency through the houses last year as compared to when I started going, from 16 to 19. With show scenes I'm to focused on what is going on, even though it looks awesome, to be scared. I went through the houses thinking "what grotesque scene do that go for me here?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallow Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I see it the other way around. I felt with a greater urgency through the houses last year as compared to when I started going, from 16 to 19. With show scenes I'm to focused on what is going on, even though it looks awesome, to be scared. I went through the houses thinking "what grotesque scene do that go for me here?" I see your point - I agree they can't be used in excess. But one, maybe two per house max (unless we're talking a special house like SAW) really heightens the tension and sense of danger. Especially if it's toward the beginning of the house. You need those awe-inspiring moments to really set the bar high. Also: surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. I know we're all hoping for some sort of Atlantic Boardwalk location, but has anyone considered that Carey, Ohio might have an old casino or pier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e z_e Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Cheat the hand and lose your hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizz Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I see your point - I agree they can't be used in excess. But one, maybe two per house max (unless we're talking a special house like SAW) really heightens the tension and sense of danger. Especially if it's toward the beginning of the house. You need those awe-inspiring moments to really set the bar high. Also: surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. I know we're all hoping for some sort of Atlantic Boardwalk location, but has anyone considered that Carey, Ohio might have an old casino or pier? In all due respect to what Carey, Ohio has brought us in the past... I cannot think of a lamer setting for an old casino or pier! Boardwalks of the east coast offer so much more in terms of imagery/characters. The Midwest... not so much. Unless we're going for cornfields. Cornfields are aplenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) I see your point - I agree they can't be used in excess. But one, maybe two per house max (unless we're talking a special house like SAW) really heightens the tension and sense of danger. Especially if it's toward the beginning of the house. You need those awe-inspiring moments to really set the bar high. Also: surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. I know we're all hoping for some sort of Atlantic Boardwalk location, but has anyone considered that Carey, Ohio might have an old casino or pier? At first, I thought you had a really good point, and I still think you do, but do you think Carey, Ohio is part of the cannon that's been laid to rest? Or because Cindy has been tiptoed around it'll be allowed to continue forward with her? The consistency of some of the icons' back-stories is something that's really frustrated me, and not just because of production complications -like what Cindy, Eddie, and Fate endured- but because of generally poor proofreading and fact checking, so to speak. I know there's a lot of amateur avenues for HHN information and history, and a few professional ones as well, but I think it's high time someone actually fashioned it's legacy into a biography of some kind. The archive site was a good start, but I want something tangible. Something else that equally frustrates me is that as a scare-actor I don't get to attend any of the VIP presentations or special salons that take place during the actual event. It's an extra disadvantage not closely knowing any of the regular fans who attended. Edited June 29, 2011 by Pumpkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadaada Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It seems to me that this more closely resembles HHN 19 where the backstory is not so much the icon as it is the building influencing the icon. HHN 19's Universal Palace Theater was an entity of it's own that affected those around it. While Julian was protective of her she was ultimately responsible for the deaths. Perhaps this casino is in close proximity with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONNYFXM Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 It seems to me that this more closely resembles HHN 19 where the backstory is not so much the icon as it is the building influencing the icon. HHN 19's Universal Palace Theater was an entity of it's own that affected those around it. While Julian was protective of her she was ultimately responsible for the deaths. Perhaps this casino is in close proximity with that. I think this is a great point, and it's very possible we'll see something along these lines. Maybe we'll be seeing a specific fictional casino or "House" to go through. But if you also think back to HHN19, it was also the year of the three Chuckie, Wolfman, and Saw, which all had their own houses. So maybe we'll see a list of characters dealing with Fate, Chance, Luck etc. who will have their own backstory and theme, as well as a main icon that has the connection to the fictional casino/House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zokoke Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Also: surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet. I know we're all hoping for some sort of Atlantic Boardwalk location, but has anyone considered that Carey, Ohio might have an old casino or pier? I only live 45 minutes away from Carey, Ohio (or 20 minutes from my campus). Carey does not have a pier or casino. Carey is completely landlocked and the only bodies of water are the reservoirs. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=carey+ohio&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl And a picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carey_from_the_air.jpg Also, there are no old casinos. Most of the gambling that happened in Ohio was either up in Lake Erie or on the Ohio River, closer to the Canada or Kentucky sides respectively, usually through riverboats. The only real interesting thing in Carey is that there is a Basilica and Shrine of Our Lady of Consultation. If you go into the basement, you can see hundreds of crutches, cots, and pictures of people who have been cured at the spot. As awesome as it was to have Bloody Mary associated with something close to home in 2008 and that Spawning from 2009 was set here as well, I do not think we will see Carey make an appearance this year. Then again, if it is about an illegal/hidden casino (if it is a casino) it could be set here. Still, in my personal opinion, I would rule out Carey. And just in case any of you were interested in Carey, Ohio: http://www.careyohio.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carey,_Ohio http://www.olcshrine.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHNJen Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hey guys, Yup this is my first post but I've been following for a while and been attending HHN for the last 7 years. I just wanna say I love the atlantic boardwalk, speakeasy feel. And I would love to see a scarezone by the lagoon or even the jaws area playing up the boardwalk feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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