HHN Hollywood X (2011) Speculation

[Grindhousehero13]

Murdy released a new code name on maze #4! "3DN".

I googled 3DN and found that it is some big technological corporation in Argentina. That didn't have anything to do with it. lol Someone on Twitter said that it could be 30 Days of Night but that's REALLY a stretch. I don't think that we would have a vampire maze outside of HoH, especially when it wouldn't really sound appealing to the GP.

Let's look at it this way: Bunny Gibbons most likely = TCM since it's based off of Ed Gein and involves a sideshow of some sort; GV Black most likely = Trick r Treat since that relates to a dentist that deals with black fillings therefore, that must relate to candy; and Soap Opera most likely = Evil Dead since Bruce Campbell played a soap opera star in the movie Fargo. If those three are true, then, assuming we get six mazes this year, that puts the House of Horrors overlay, the original maze, and the Scream maze left. So either 3DN is the original maze we've been hoping for or it has a very subtle connection to Scream. Some one on the Twitter wondered if it had to do with Scream since the N stands for Neive Campbell and the 3D stands for Scream 4 in 3D.

Although I Think 30 Days Of Night would not be a stretch I doubt that thats hint also it would be just stupid to do a scream maze in 3D if you think about it

my thoughts at this point

Bunny Gibson- either TCM (most likely) or The Freakz Original maze

G.V. Black- we only got 2 options either TrT or Halloween and I think TrT is the most likely

Soap opera-could very well be scream I think the whole Bruce Camble being on a sop opera is a pretty complicated hint so I doubt that much effort was put into it but also Id like to throw in The Thing, the prequal is due out in October and Soap opera makes sense sense in the same way with scream you know twist and turns

3DN-could this be some sort cordinates you know like in maps and directions or some sort of passcode in something?

[DTH316]

Wow, for some reason GV Black being Halloween didn't even occur to me. Now c'mon, TrT being more likely than Halloween? Even though Halloween is a repeat, I still see it 10 times more likely than that, plus the fact Zombie is still on board with the whole HHN thing. He may no longer own the rights but I'm sure they can easily grab the rights and let RZ do his thing on it.

If The Thing is Soap Opera, than practically every horror movie could be soap opera since they all have "twists and turns." Scream easily fit the criteria for what a Soap Opera could be but since it was shot down, I'm not exactly sure of what it could be.

3DN -- well jeez, this has me stumped.

Bunny Gibbons is TCM. Murdy said he isn't going to design any original mazes for this year and I don't think he designed an original maze for [Freakz/Klownz] last year and he's just pulling it up now. I think, I'm not necessarily 100% sure, that he would've kinda mentioned it in some way if he would've designed a whole maze to the idea but he always just said he "wants" to. So I do think an original maze is coming this year, just not Freakz.

So far, none of these hints point to Scream and I am about to throw a hissy fit!

[Grindhousehero13]

Wow, for some reason GV Black being Halloween didn't even occur to me. Now c'mon, TrT being more likely than Halloween? Even though Halloween is a repeat, I still see it 10 times more likely than that, plus the fact Zombie is still on board with the whole HHN thing. He may no longer own the rights but I'm sure they can easily grab the rights and let RZ do his thing on it.

If The Thing is Soap Opera, than practically every horror movie could be soap opera since they all have "twists and turns." Scream easily fit the criteria for what a Soap Opera could be but since it was shot down, I'm not exactly sure of what it could be.

3DN -- well jeez, this has me stumped.

Bunny Gibbons is TCM. Murdy said he isn't going to design any original mazes for this year and I don't think he designed an original maze for [Freakz/Klownz] last year and he's just pulling it up now. I think, I'm not necessarily 100% sure, that he would've kinda mentioned it in some way if he would've designed a whole maze to the idea but he always just said he "wants" to. So I do think an original maze is coming this year, just not Freakz.

So far, none of these hints point to Scream and I am about to throw a hissy fit!

Well because of the whole cavity to candy thing is more twords TrT since it has more to do with the candy aspect of Halloween

well I meant as in scream its the whole who is the killer or in this case the Alien/trust no one kind of thing

[Freak]

Let's not forget that Evil Dead and Scream are on the short list. Even though GV Black can also mean Halloween, I really doubt that it would be that considering that the reboot doesn't come out until next year; not to mention that Murdy would most-likely want to wait until the iron's hot to strike it. Let's also consider Scream, which is supposed to show up at HHN this year. Both Scream and Halloween take place in a suburban environment. We've discussed this before in the wishful thinking thread late last year, but if they use both, that would create a lack of variety in the environments that the mazes are in.

Last year, HoTC took place in a sideshow attraction, an old house, and catacombs; F13 took place in woods, an abandoned barn/house, and through an abandoned mine shaft; NoES took place in a preschool, a yard and a house, a high school, and a boiler room; Saw, of course, took place in several types of rooms inside of an abandoned warehouse-type environment. Now let's take Scream which takes place in some victim's houses, a movie theater/studio, and a high school (Just counting potential environments to be used. 4 will probably have more to include). RZ's Halloween would pretty much take place in the houses, the hospital, and back into the abandoned Myers house. See? It would be a consistent lack of environmental variety between those two. They either have to choose one of the other here. Obviously, it would make more sense to do Scream first and have dear ol' Michael to wait his turn for next year. In short, I am 90% certain GV Black is not Halloween; in fact, i don't expect Halloween to return this year for the reasons that I have just brought up.

To back up the evidence for the "Scream-over-Halloween" theory, Murdy has just said on Twitter that this year will offer several different types/variates of horror. Having Scream and Halloween would have two slashers that take place in a suburban area. If this year will represent different sub-genres of horror, that would mean Scream could be the typical slasher-horror, TrT could be the crossover zombie, werewolves, and vampire horror; Evil Dead/Army of Darkness could be the comedy horror, Hostel could be the torture-porn horror or TCM can be just another slasher, the HoH overlay can represent a Gothic sort of horror, and the original maze can represent who-knows-what horror. So at least we know that this year won't be just slasher, slasher, slasher, like all of the previous years so we will have more variety.

3DN is, by far, the most difficult code-name to crack here. I know I've mentioned this earlier, but since Murdy has said that some of the stuff being used this year has not appeared on the survey, this leads me to believe that this is the original maze. On top of that, there was some report of Rob scoping out the JP queue. I'm really going to go out on a limb here and guess that 3DN stands for "3D Nightmare". Maybe the supposed original maze will have something to do with Rob Zombie's nightmares or something. I'm thinking of something like, "The Nightmarish World of Rob Zombie: In 3D ZombieVision". You know that Rob is going to do a maze again this year from the popularity from HoTC! It was just too darn popular to pass up such an opportunity!

For Bunny Gibbons, I think this will be TCM. I doubt it's Freakz since Rob would probably do the original maze. Like DTH said, Freakz and Lunaticz is something that Murdy "wants" to do, but can't do it this year...maybe in the near future. Even though the code-name was released on April Fool's day, I think Murdy is just emphasizing that to try to throw us off.

As for Scream, be patient, DTH. This Friday, our long-awaited movie will finally slash its way onto the silver screens. We must do our part to see it on opening weekend since the property's determination on showing up at HHN this year is so heavily dependent on how it does on opening weekend. If Scre4m does well on opening weekend, we can pretty much confirm that it will show up this year because of the successful legacy behind it. So assuming the movie will do well this Friday, Ghost face's long-overdue spotlight at HHN will happen. It will only be a matter of time before they make it official.

[dante]

Just an FYI, this will actually be the twelfth year HHN has been in Hollywood. You forgot 1986 and 1992. Not to mention we actually started HHN.

lol hate to break it to you but florida started HHN if you look hhn in hollywood started in 97 and for florida in 91 so yea we started it lol =)

Edited April 12, 2011 by dante

[Freak]

lol hate to break it to you but florida started HHN if you look hhn in hollywood started in 97 and for florida in 91 so yea we started it lol =)

Not true.

[dante]

Not true.

umm ok so they heald a halloween themed thing first but halloween horror nights itself started in florida, you saying that they started hhn is like saying that marvel started the character shazam true his original name is mr.marvel but after being bought by dc thats when he became shazam

Edited April 13, 2011 by dante

[Freak]

umm ok so they heald a halloween themed thing first but halloween horror nights itself started in florida, you saying that they started hhn is like saying that marvel started the character shazam true his original name is mr.marvel but after being bought by dc thats when he became shazam

Uh, okay. lol

Where on earth is everybody?

[dante]

Uh, okay. lol

Where on earth is everybody?

sorry i just felt that i had to defend the right that florida has to say that hhn started here

[DTH316]

I WOULD say Shazam was started by Marvel, in that case. Even though I have no idea what you're talking about lmao

What you just said makes no sense. That's like saying The Weinstein Brothers started the Hannibal series even though they bought it from Universal and prior to that, Universal shared it with MGM....

(just trying to remain somewhat HHN related here haha)

Okay, I looked into the whole Captain Marvel thing. From my understanding, there were two comics named Captain Marvel at one point. One by Marvel and one by Fawcett Comics (which was later bought by DC). After it was bought by DC, Marvel won a legal battle and forced the Captain Marvel comics title to Shazam.

Here is the thing... Universal is one company, started by a movie organization which later branched out by creating theme parks, both own and ran and relish off of everything by Universal Pictures, meaning Florida and Hollywood are both under the same sun, just literally on different sides of the continent and are ran by different management teams but nonetheless, still apart of the same company. Much like if you go to a Hot Topic in Los Angeles in the "western division", it'll probably be much differently ran in Alabama and their "southern division."

So therefore, if a Halloween themed event occurred in Hollywood 5 years prior to Orlando, I would say Hollywood did it first. Sure, Orlando was the first to make the event successful and run it yearly but for the sake of the debate as to which was first, Hollywood had the idea first. And even then, Hollywood's theme park was built first, has the most studio history and prestige so therefore our Terror Tram is 10 times more special than anything Orlando has to offer in the first place so HA!!! lol

[DTH316]

Now back to your regular programming lol:

I think TrT and Halloween being GV Black in relation to cavities and candy are equally similar. There are plenty of trick or treating scenes along with candy eating in the Halloween franchise. And sicne Halloween is the more popular franchise, I think it gets the upper hand in this one lol

Plus with Rob Zombie's hillbilly ensemble, it's more likely Murdy would've thought of cavities and the description of them while reading one of his screenplays for either H1 or H2. Just sayin!

[Freak]

Now back to your regular programming lol:

I think TrT and Halloween being GV Black in relation to cavities and candy are equally similar. There are plenty of trick or treating scenes along with candy eating in the Halloween franchise. And sicne Halloween is the more popular franchise, I think it gets the upper hand in this one lol

Plus with Rob Zombie's hillbilly ensemble, it's more likely Murdy would've thought of cavities and the description of them while reading one of his screenplays for either H1 or H2. Just sayin!

Well GV Black and Soap Opera were the first mazes Murdy did and what was on his short list? Trick 'r Treat and Evil Dead. They both match up with those hints. Murdy would have to be seriously, and I mean SERIOUSLY cruel to his loyal fans to allow all these teasers of TrT possibly coming to HHN and then, "Fooled ya! Michael Myers is back by popular demand!" Besides, when does the Halloween reboot come out? 2012. And what about TCM? Its reboot doesn't come out until next year as well. Just sayin'!

Besides, I think the general public would gladly take Trick 'r Treat over Rob Zombie's Halloween. Now that last year was the most successful year by far and they have established their fan base, I think now Murdy has been given free reign to do what he and the true fans want.

[Grindhousehero13]

Now back to your regular programming lol:

I think TrT and Halloween being GV Black in relation to cavities and candy are equally similar. There are plenty of trick or treating scenes along with candy eating in the Halloween franchise. And sicne Halloween is the more popular franchise, I think it gets the upper hand in this one lol

Plus with Rob Zombie's hillbilly ensemble, it's more likely Murdy would've thought of cavities and the description of them while reading one of his screenplays for either H1 or H2. Just sayin!

yes but Halloween didnt revolve around the idea of trick or treating like TrT did and I dont recall Hillbillies having anything to do with Halloween

[DTH316]

Put this in perspective...

Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street were both done in 07 and 08. The last film for both of those franchises was Freddy vs. Jason, released in 03. Their remakes on film were done in 09 and 10, respectively, and even in 08, they knew the remakes for both of those were coming yet they both returned as mazes in 10. If you have a franchise such as F13, NOES, TCM or Halloween, it honestly doesn't matter when the maze happens because they have HUGE fanbases who will come in droves to come see it. Something like, let's say, My Bloody Valentine is an instance of "iron striking" needed because it's not well known throughout all of popular culture but it's well known in the current time of 2009. Use of any of the four, and I would even say Saw included as well now, needs no introduction to the HHN crowd because they are staples in pop culture for the rest of time and their popularity will remain constant for decades to come. There's people who haven't even seen those movies who know who those guys are and are just as afraid of them as if they had seen the movie. But throw that same person in a room with a pick axe wielding miner, they may go "this is stupid, who the hell is this?" (depending on how often they go to the movies). The "striking while the iron is hot" formula does not always apply -- HOTC is a good example of that as well. With reboots of Halloween and TCM underway, it wouldn't matter to Murdy or the GP of when it comes, much like it didn't matter for F13 or NOES when their reboots were coming out the following years. And Chucky even, when was the last time he made a movie? 2005? And he ran the entire Terror Tram last year with a remake currently in the works which was suppose to come out this year but got pushed back to 2012 (something they DIDN'T know at the time). I think at the end of the day, it all comes down to what the surveys say and what Murdy wants to do and the "iron is hot" stuff is just an excuse for fans to nod their head in agreement and go "oh, well I guess that makes sense and is understandable."

[the ghost]

Hey guys, I'm back... unlike most of you I don't post in an HHN forum year round, lol. Anyway, I REALLY dont wanna sound pessimistic or anything like that, but if you look through everything no one has ever really done a cult classic type thing, and Trick R Treat has a cult following. I would love to see it, but I just don't see it. As I have said before, Evil Dead I believe will happen this year because the sets can be very similar to F13 and no one would really notice. I am also willing to bet Leatherface will show up this year as when it first came out that was the crowd hit and you can get some very intense scares with that... I see that going into Saw for no real reason, despite the fact that they were there before... but it makes sense to me. And this is SUPER speculation... I have no evidence what so ever, but to me it kinda works. I am a metal head(ish) as well as a horror nerd, and Rob Zombie announced a brand new film, Lords of Salem. Now, if you all remember Rob Zombie made American Nightmare I believe 3 years before corpses came out, so maybe we will see something loosely based on that. It makes sense, its also a song by Rob, so his fans will flock to it, and it will promote his film when it does come out. Also the so far basic concept works very well... Salem Witch Trials, and HHN Orlando did a witch scare zone last year, so maybe this is like a house version of that. It just makes sense to me, take it or leave it. I heard rumor of paranormal activity, but unless they want to screw with the film then there are no major scaractors besides the demonic lady, so thats out I think. I do still see Trick R Treat despite being pessimistic about it. This is pretty out there, but I believe, now that I think of it, that Trick R Treat may be at the terror tram. I can see certain scenes for it in my head. For example, the woods would be PERFECT for the bus of lost kids hiding in the fog. I dont know how it would be done precisely, but the terror tram tends to jump themes but have an underlying theme, and that works for TRT as it is an anthology. Plus a lot of times the theme is semi lost, so the designers wouldn't worry about it ass much as the others because the jumping themes as well as the fact that a lot of people arent familiar with the characters. Make sense to anyone else? These are mostly my own ideas and inferences based on what I can realistically see happening, so if Im wrong... or right, I'm just luck.

[Freak]

^ There's a lot to read through, and I understand that you don't have the time to read through all of it. So I'm going to recap our current speculation for you:

It's pretty much given that Rob is going to work with HHN again after the popularity of House of 1000 Corpses last year. So far, a recycle of HoTC doesn't look very possible at this point since he has a certain "let's do something new" work ethic as shown in the Halloween attrocities remakes. Not only that, but it's been reported that Rob and John were scoping out the Jurassic Park extended queue. Pretty fishy if you ask me and everyone else on here. Most likely, the maze that Rob will work on would be original, as we're speculating. Of course, it would most likely be in 3D ZombieVision hence the new codename, 3DN. There is also word that Rob Zombie is wanting to work on the Terror Tram and possibly even a scarezone.

John just said that Evil Dead and Trick 'r Treat are on his "short list". The two code names for the mazes were Soap Opera and GV Black. Bruce Campbell played a Soap Opera star in the movie Fargo and GV Black was a dentist, connecting to eating too much candy. Therefore, those two match up with the code names.

Scream maze...go see it this Friday if you want to see one.

TCM could be possible since another hint was Bunny Gibbons. He was a sideshow person whose most famous display was the car that Ed Gein used. TCM was inspired by Ed Gein, so there. The hint was released on April 1st and Murdy has emphasized that. He did say that one maze will be based off a movie that is a 2011 movie. Insidious, anybody? That could probably go in the lower lot maze.

Paranormal Activity. Yeah, don't count on it.

TrT would be cool to see on Terror Tram with Ghostface taking over the tram system and everything, but with Rob likely at the helm this year, it sounds like the Firefly family will take over. Not surprising considering the success of HoTC.

[HorrorNights93]

^^^ thanks for the recap freak lol

Its good to be back!So lets see basically you guys are just mainly focused on maze speculations. So the list is Evil Dead,TrT,Scream,HoH,Rob Zombie maze and TCM? If thats the line up ill be so happy well be getting ALL NEW stuff finally again besides TCM and quite honestly I'm ok with just TCM returning. I really dont have much to speculate on now but ill post more often as i get more info.

[DTH316]

The 2011 movie Murdy was talking about HAS to be Scream. He hadn't even seen Insidious yet. What other BIG horror movies with a track record, a recognizable villain and re creatable environments have come out this year? NONE!... except Scream. P.S. Just bought my tickets!!!!!j23ier23uie4hi12h31i

[Freak]

The 2011 movie Murdy was talking about HAS to be Scream. He hadn't even seen Insidious yet. What other BIG horror movies with a track record, a recognizable villain and re creatable environments have come out this year? NONE!... except Scream. P.S. Just bought my tickets!!!!!j23ier23uie4hi12h31i

Ah, bit that's the trick right there! Scre4m is a 2011 movie, but the first three were obviously before 2011. Therefore, Scream is technically NOT a 2011 movie. I'm sure the maze will include scenes/kills from 4, but I'm sure it'll start with the first and end with the scenes from 3. In that case, I think Insidious could be in the running this year, but I wouldn't put money on it haha.

Also, welcome back HorrorNights93!

[the ghost]

I still see Salem as Rob's maze. I got the tweet announcing the film from John, its tecnically a new movie and is a Zombie film. The Salem thing fits well and its sorta an original maze, cause I swera John's tweeted hes not doing an original maze. I see this being like American Nightmare was, a maze before a movie. Plus if they do that with firefly and maybe halloween in the big warehouse then Zombie controls the bottom back lot, and they can advertise that pretty well I think. Just some more ideas that work in my head.

[Freak]

I still see Salem as Rob's maze. I got the tweet announcing the film from John, its tecnically a new movie and is a Zombie film. The Salem thing fits well and its sorta an original maze, cause I swera John's tweeted hes not doing an original maze. I see this being like American Nightmare was, a maze before a movie. Plus if they do that with firefly and maybe halloween in the big warehouse then Zombie controls the bottom back lot, and they can advertise that pretty well I think. Just some more ideas that work in my head.

I don't think I ever saw a tweet stating that he's flat-out not doing an original maze. Also, Lords of Salem doesn't come out until next year so...

As for the original maze:

@coreymarr1:"I've designed a few over the years. Whether we do one remains to be seen"

[DTH316]

That would actually be a cool idea. "Rob Zombie's Lower Lot." As long as he doesn't run the Terror Tram also, I'll be happy lol

Have a Firefly scare zone, Lords of Salem in the JP queue and Halloween behind the Mummy. Rob Zombie music rocking all the way down the stairway. It would be pretty fucking awesome.

[HorrorNights93]

Ah, bit that's the trick right there! Scre4m is a 2011 movie, but the first three were obviously before 2011. Therefore, Scream is technically NOT a 2011 movie. I'm sure the maze will include scenes/kills from 4, but I'm sure it'll start with the first and end with the scenes from 3. In that case, I think Insidious could be in the running this year, but I wouldn't put money on it haha.

Also, welcome back HorrorNights93!

Thanks Freak

And as far as Insidous goes i can actually say its one of the first movies that actually have scared me in a while. It has good maze potential and i guess the red face demon could be considered the main villian. But i also doubt John would be doing it this year as good as it was. On the other hand Scream has to be a maze this year. It's definetly known to the GP and has maze potential written all over it. I would also be surprised to see that movie flop at the box office so i guess we can count that in.

[Freak]

Scre4m is now officially in theaters. I shall now go see it this afternoon.

[DTH316]

I saw Scream 4. LOVED IT. A complete spoiler free review (I don't even get into what the plot of the film is so you can rest easy) is up in the horror movies section.

Not doing Scream this year would be a crime against nature.

Edited April 15, 2011 by DTH316