HHN Hollywood X (2011) Speculation

[Freak]

^ A Black Christmas maze doesn't sound likely...

[Freak]

I almost forgot. Welcome to HNN DireBrian!

[Grindhousehero13]

My assumption was that 3DN was referring to a movie with:

A Broken Neck (hint)

That was set in Canada (International) and

Features Fresh Baked Cookies & Burnt Flesh.

3DN - Three Dog Night's biggest hit was "Joy To The World" which is also the name of a popular Xmas song...

Thus... Black Xmas. A Recently Remade, yet classic horror flick

Murdy didnt say international he said 3 different contentets Canada is part of North America along with the U.S.

and I realy REALY doubt were gonna see Black Xmas.......ever.

that aside welcome to HNN

[Trevler]

And it's not like he has a scary weapon to kill people with.

Im not gonna argue your other points about Hellraiser, because I know we have completely different tastes in Horror Movies. Suffice to say I think you're wrong.

But this one. Pinhead (and all the Cenobites) have belts FULL of various torture implements. Hooks, knives- all sorts of scary stuff. Not to mention the chains that all of them are able to control.

[Dr. Satan]

My assumption was that 3DN was referring to a movie with:

A Broken Neck (hint)

That was set in Canada (International) and

Features Fresh Baked Cookies & Burnt Flesh.

3DN - Three Dog Night's biggest hit was "Joy To The World" which is also the name of a popular Xmas song...

Thus... Black Xmas. A Recently Remade, yet classic horror flick

You're right that the hints all point to it, but it is indeed very unlikely we'll see Black X-Mas as a maze. And were there really that many enviorments that could be contributed into a maze? All I could see is the living room, the attic, and maybe the space beneath the house... but that's it. It just wouldn't work.

By the way, welcome to HNN!

[HorrorNights93]

ok first I agree with you on Hellraiser on all levels since alot peple dont get that pin heads is pretty much a neutral (SP?) force in the movies and its not like the scares can come from him since its not like he realy moves or anything.

We need more shows IMO not alot 1-2 more would be great and I honestly loved SW I know its just an adult version of WW but come on im 21 and HHN is an adult event, and I know in my case and alot of peoples these days its not like Im able to go to USH anytime in the year I have to work and save up just for HHN, im a college student so after spending cash on food, gas, books, tuition ect. I save up to to buy to the tickets and to have money for parking food and to spend, so honestly I could care less if it basicly the same show as the day time its not like I seen it the week before and I do enjoy the humor of it, plus it does eat a large number of the crowd, this also goes for KK360, alot of people only go to uni for HHN so to throw that in the mix for one more year would be cool.

IDK why but I doubt were gonna see a grudge maze anytime soon, and the Descent and the hills have eyes were denied even before the code names.

i also agree i dont believe anytime soon well be getting hellraiser til murdy begins to run out of movie properties at least. Also we do need more shows in the future. i would be fine with just two. I think 6 mazes 1 show TT rides etc. is alot to do as of now us being a small park. And HHN is an adult event but mostly also for teenagers and up as well so it might not be as pleasing to the 13+ crowd. As far as Black Xmas goes i feel that is very high it not being a possibility. But hey Brian also welcome to the forums

Edited July 3, 2011 by HorrorNights93

[the ghost]

Here's probably the stupidest post ever made to these forums... bet here goes...

If you were to look at the background of the hhn hollywood website you would notice that it looks a bit like a foot if you actually look at it. The "fat" part at the end kind of looks like a heel and the curviture kind of makes sense as a foot as the arch becomes the "balls" of the feet. I seem to remember hostel having part where the guys foot is nailed down and him having to get out or something like that. Pretty stupid post... huh.

[DTH316]

Well Trevler, what I meant was that basically he doesn't have any one weapon that he's known for using, other than chains but that's more of a telepathic thing. But I'd argue it'd be a bit difficult and maybe even a bit silly to see Pinhead running around with chains and swinging them at people (which he doesn't do).

"its not the fact of having him come out at you and the GP say "ahh its a guy with needles on his head" its the creatures and what can come from within Pandora's Box that makes the movies ccreepy"

Well WEEEEE all know that but the GP won't and they won't understand what's going on unless it's all from Pinhead's doing. Just a "what's going on, where's Pinhead?" I'd like to think that HHN's crowd was more horror film buffs like us but that is not the case, at all.

And I didn't know of all those hints on 3DN. It makes it seem less likely to be Hostel. Hm... definitely not Black Christmas though. Seriously, even if it is, I might boycott because of how crappy a movie that was. If they thought we were mad over the remake version of NOES being used than sheesh, just wait until they do Black Christmas... If anyone can do a keyword search on IMDb for films that take place in Canada then organize it by "rating", you can skim through the list and see what is horror and what's not.

Ya know, the more I think about these hints, the less they sound like movies I've never heard of or just don't exist. We're getting all original this year, I've ran out of guesses as to what the hell these movies could be.

[Trevler]

The GP doesn't need to understand whats going on. Thats what makes them the GP. The GP, generally, dont care what movies they use. GP is more concerned with how much stuff there is too to do, how long they have to wait and so on. Im sure those are bigger factors in most people's decisions if they're going to attend or not then "Im not sure I understand Pinhead's motivation". You're giving them too much credit.

(PS. ITS LAMENT CONFIGURATION. Not Pandora's box.)

[00nightcrawler]

Agreed with trevler, hellraiser would be awesome. It has a wide variety of scary looking characters and enviornments and its more popular than house of 1000 corpses or my bloody valentine. I don't expect to see it this year as murdy already denied it but we would really be missing out on something if it didn't come eventually.

And is anyone really excited about the possibility of a hostel maze on the lower lot? I know im not.

[djevilclown]

i think a Hellraiser maze would be badass... all the elements of the movies would be visually amazing and i think like trevler said the weapons/objects they can control and use would make the maze very scary... i mean come on if freddy can use a claw, jason can use his many weapons and hell if the mine guy from MBV can use a pick axe. then the chatterer can use his mouth and hooks to scare the begeezas (sp?) out of us... i mean lets face fact its all about the element of surprise right?

[Grindhousehero13]

Well Nightcrawler I for one am excited for a Hostel maze and Im not even a fan of Eli's Directing career let alon Hostel but the concept is perfect for and maze and once I'll bring up Orlando's 06 house "Run: Hostel Territory" was based on Hostel and did realy well

[Freak]

Well Nightcrawler I for one am excited for a Hostel maze and Im not even a fan of Eli's Directing career let alon Hostel but the concept is perfect for and maze and once I'll bring up Orlando's 06 house "Run: Hostel Territory" was based on Hostel and did realy well

I hope you're right Grindhouse. I'm just tired of this torture-crap. It's going to feel all-too similar to Saw. I hope they can make this a great maze; yet again, I haven't seen any of the movies...

[00nightcrawler]

I feel that as far as torture goes, Saw is the best its going to get. I've seen both Hostel movies. The first is serviceable for some interesting views on what people would do if given the chance to torture someone, morality and all that (but that wouldn't be translated well in a maze anyway), but the second is one of the most unpleasant viewing experiences of my life. And I really don't see anything that this maze could give us that would't be a step down from Saw. On the other hand, it would be kind of cool to get a maze from The Bear Jew.

[Tmrw]

Well Nightcrawler I for one am excited for a Hostel maze and Im not even a fan of Eli's Directing career let alon Hostel but the concept is perfect for and maze and once I'll bring up Orlando's 06 house "Run: Hostel Territory" was based on Hostel and did realy well

ahhh one of my favorite HHNO mazes RUN

i really hope they know exactly what theyre gonna do with this maze, if we end up going through the EXACT same layout as SAW: Game who gives a F**K

Im gonna be disappointed, im really hoping they can make something good out of this one, i rewatched a few scenes from Hostel, and i must say there is some quality scares within the movie

as well as scenes they might be able to work (excluding the porn from the GP)

if done right and its really hard for me to say this, we could have a very well thought out maze

[Grindhousehero13]

I feel that as far as torture goes, Saw is the best its going to get. I've seen both Hostel movies. The first is serviceable for some interesting views on what people would do if given the chance to torture someone, morality and all that (but that wouldn't be translated well in a maze anyway), but the second is one of the most unpleasant viewing experiences of my life. And I really don't see anything that this maze could give us that would't be a step down from Saw. On the other hand, it would be kind of cool to get a maze from The Bear Jew.

See Im with you on the movies them selfs the first one was entertaining but not realy the best and the second one was just basicly Gory porn, but to me Hostel has way more substance for a maze then SAW and look the first SAW maze was awsome and alot of us were confused on how SAW would work as a maze when basicly the villian was un tangible for the most part and victums were in traps but they juiced it into something awsome by turning Amanda's Pig disguise into Jigsaw's Pig faced Minions and by letting the Victums fight back, plus they didnt rely on the traps for scares but rather made them distractions. with Hostel they actualy have people physicaly going after people wich give it a leg up over SAW and also with Hostel unlike SAW, YOU can actualy be the victum with guys with variouse wepons chasing you.

[DTH316]

"The GP doesn't need to understand whats going on. Thats what makes them the GP. The GP, generally, dont care what movies they use."

If that were the case, we wouldn't have this whole "criteria" issue that Murdy uses as a standard. And for the most part, I agree with his criteria.

Hostel may make a decent maze but I don't think it'd be better than Saw. Saw just has such a great icon and so many recognizable elements to it (Billy, Jigsaw himself, pig minions, the traps) so it just made it that much cooler to be in the thick of it while going through the maze.

Ya know, my Spidey senses are tingling... and something tells me it isn't Hostel we're getting...

[Grindhousehero13]

"The GP doesn't need to understand whats going on. Thats what makes them the GP. The GP, generally, dont care what movies they use."

If that were the case, we wouldn't have this whole "criteria" issue that Murdy uses as a standard. And for the most part, I agree with his criteria.

Hostel may make a decent maze but I don't think it'd be better than Saw. Saw just has such a great icon and so many recognizable elements to it (Billy, Jigsaw himself, pig minions, the traps) so it just made it that much cooler to be in the thick of it while going through the maze.

Ya know, my Spidey senses are tingling... and something tells me it isn't Hostel we're getting...

no one said better then Saw, what I said was it has more Maze material than Saw, amd the pig faced minions were just 1 and it was amanda they improvised to multiply the pigs into more.

[Freak]

Hostel may make a decent maze but I don't think it'd be better than Saw. Saw just has such a great icon and so many recognizable elements to it (Billy, Jigsaw himself, pig minions, the traps) so it just made it that much cooler to be in the thick of it while going through the maze.

Ya know, my Spidey senses are tingling... and something tells me it isn't Hostel we're getting...

You know what concerns me? Since we're comparing this to Saw, I wonder if they're just going to use the exact same layout as Saw? It seems all too likely that they'll use some sets/props from Saw (Boiler anybody?) should Hostel come, but I am 99% confident that we're going to get it at this point. 3DN (Who made the song, "Eli's coming"), will have the scent of burnt flesh and fresh-baked cookies. I haven't seen the movie, but Sam has told me that they bake pastries/cookies in Hostel. If we get Evil Dead, I don't think we're going to get Cabin Fever since it would feel to similar. Also, Hostel is Roth's most popular work.

I'm going to just randomly throw this out there and say that GV = Scream. Think about it. If Soap Opera = Wolfman, if 3DN = Hostel, if Steven = Evil Dead (Because of the basement tapes and the "wide variety of environments" Murdy said that it would have; add onto the 62 pages of treatment), if Bunny Gibbons = House of 1000 Corpses, then that narrows it down to either Trivia or GV Black. Trivia HAS to be House of Horrors since Murdy has talked about all of the other mazes except Trivia. Remember that Trivia came from the fact that the name of the maze has been mentioned in a trivia question or answer on Twitter. GV Black, as we know will have special effects and will contain scenes that will be in near pitch-darkness.

I know that Scream may not be the film to have a maze based off of it that would require SFX or pitch-dark scenes, but think of it this way: One scene that probably would require SFX would be the garage door scene. Maybe there's going to be an animatronic of Tybalt (Corret name?) wiggling in the garage door. That would be an AWESOME distraction. As for the pitch darkness, maybe there will be some rooms where you walk into Stu's house with Halloween playing on the TV, then all of the TV, all of the lights, audio and everything just go out, it's pitch dark, and then suddenly, WHAM! Ghostface pops outta the door with a strobe light and a loud "crash!". Maybe there will be a scene when you're walking through the prop warehouse of the studios where Stab was filmed in total darkness, with Ghostface waiting for you....

Just some speculation on why GV Black could be Scream. It is going to be "another whole level of madness" after all.

[Grindhousehero13]

Just some speculation on why GV Black could be Scream. It is going to be "another whole level of madness" after all.

I hate to burst your bubble Freak but your kinda wrong GV Black was to have a character with fillings and has a "Title Character" and unless murdy thinks like a 5 year old and call Ghost Face "Scream guy" then it not Scream honestly I have a gut feeling that we're not gonna see scream this year.

[Trevler]

Nothing to see here!

Edited July 4, 2011 by Trevler

[Freak]

^Speaking of which, I saw some guy say that there is going to be an Alice Cooper maze and a La Llorona maze. IDK if that's legit info or not, but the whole Alice Cooper: Welcome to My Nightmare maze doesn't sound that bad since it would be original. He also said that Scream would be the main theme (Which would make me cry tears of JOY if that were the case). I think the La Llorona maze would go in House of Horrors. If that's true, then eh why not put it in there?

[Tmrw]

Nothing to see here!

0.o Trev are you hiding something?

i was just infact on the HHN facebook page (after constantly repeating myself over and over again about the whole demise of the HHN Updaters)

and i read about the Alice Cooper maze that Freak just pointed out

UPDATE: son of a bitch it makes sense

back in 1975 Alice Cooper made a Tv Special named The Nightmare in which he played someone named STEVEN who was "who is trapped in a nightmare he can't wake up from and tries to escape"

he then later on created a concert film called Welcome to my Nightmare which invloved this

"Welcome to My Nightmare was a phantasmagorical exposition of music and theatre themed around a nightmare experienced by a young boy named Steven. Costing US$600,000 to produce, the show was a grand visual spectacle with an elaborate stage set, pre-filmed projections, four dancers, and elaborate costumes. Set in a graveyard/bedroom, a well-drilled band ran through the new album and a selection of older hits, whilst Alice encountered giant spiders, dancing skeletons, faceless silver demons and a 9-foot 'cyclops'."

now didnt Murdy say that one of the code names had to do with Alice himself? 0.0

specualtion please

Edited July 4, 2011 by StevenForTmrw

[Grindhousehero13]

IDK I just dont see it happening plus Murdy has said sevrel time all mazes are Movie based I dont remember him saying that anything had to do with Alice cooper but if he did think about this, Alice cooper had alot to do with Horror movies wiether being on soundtracks or even being in movies, although it may just of been Freddy's Dead that he was in but IDK seems unlikely but at this point anythings possible if were already throwing Alice Cooper's canceled TV show in the mix

[HorrorNights93]

ahhhhhh Freak beat me to it !!! >:/ ahahah oh well but yes lets speculate on this. im not sure about the background more than Steven just described for Alice but wouldnt La Llorona be considered a original concept ?? Murdy said that every maze would be movie based. Well actually there was a movie or two based on La Llorona. If so im just glad to see some originality in the event even though well be once again re using a icon maybe the maze will be better than the SZ. Scream the theme...i can definetly go for that. I know everyones thinking Hostel will be a remake of the Saw maze but i highly doubt Murdy would use the same layout...props maybe butt it WILL be diffrent from the saw maze..its a diffrent movie with the same concept. And the guy who posted this on the HHN FB wall only listed 5 mazes...will we not be getting a 6th or is he excluding the HoH info which i thought was for La llorona. I can believe the Alice,hostel,HOTC -____-, and scream but a whole maze based on La llorona seems unlikely. What could you really do to make a full maze that is scary on that concept ? SZ worked but not to sure about a maze. This kinda makes sense..La llorona, Alice and Hostel are in 3 diffrent continents right?? ugh im so confused i just wish this press release hurry up!!! and whats up with the cancellation of the hhn updaters ??

Edited July 4, 2011 by HorrorNights93