Legacy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 New role for Tent 2 that pretty confirms our casino (I always need at least two roles ): "Seagull" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingBunnies Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I was thinking about this "Spanish house." I recall someone talking about a nod to Catacombs, and wasn't there a bit of the plague during The Spanish Inquisition? It just hadn't reached the outstanding number just yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Speaking of the inquisition is there any way that we can connect the ultimate goal of it to the event itself i mean i know houses dont always have to match the theme but what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Im kind of agreeing with the idea on tent 2. I know for fact there are multiple Seagulls in each cast, maybe those are the equivalent of the minions? And Blackjack Dealer maybe one of the icons? Or next step up from the minion? If people think its going to be related to a casino, as if everyone is being watched by cameras until they "beat the house" or cheat. Maybe the Seagulls are the cameras? Since birds are high up and see everything? Idk, just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonfalconking Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I was thinking about this "Spanish house." I recall someone talking about a nod to Catacombs, and wasn't there a bit of the plague during The Spanish Inquisition? It just hadn't reached the outstanding number just yet? yea it was just as infected as france was in 1349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 A lot of the stilt people from past years aren't being hired.... a lot of them are being given ground roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizz Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Im kind of agreeing with the idea on tent 2. I know for fact there are multiple Seagulls in each cast, maybe those are the equivalent of the minions? And Blackjack Dealer maybe one of the icons? Or next step up from the minion? If people think its going to be related to a casino, as if everyone is being watched by cameras until they "beat the house" or cheat. Maybe the Seagulls are the cameras? Since birds are high up and see everything? Idk, just an idea. I think there's much more logical roles for the "Seagulls" rather than cameras. Remember - these are people cast as "seagulls." I doubt they're going to attach scareactors to a wall dressed as cameras. So far, the Seagull I know of is female... if that helps guide your train of thought to other possibilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sohrin Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Regarding the Spanish house, could it be possible that "La Llorona" might be in it? I know they copied her image off of Mary, but is it still a possibility? I'm not sure how well received it was at Hollywood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The seagulls I know of are male. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Regarding the Spanish house, could it be possible that "La Llorona" might be in it? I know they copied her image off of Mary, but is it still a possibility? I'm not sure how well received it was at Hollywood... According to Hollywood Speculation there is rumor that La Llorona will be back this year so maybe they whont be using her in order to prevent any issues of "oh you copied us" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) I think there's much more logical roles for the "Seagulls" rather than cameras. Nods in agreement. "BOO! I 'm a camera!" and... cameras in an Art Deco 10's-30's seems odd... Regarding the Spanish house, could it be possible that "La Llorona" might be in it? I know they copied her image off of Mary, but is it still a possibility? I'm not sure how well received it was at Hollywood... Nah. I think she is a very localized legend and being a complete rip-off of Bloody Mary it would feel very cheap. A lot of these code names make sense in retrospect but are completely undiscernable prior. Like all the crazy codenames in orphanage last year. "crispy", "bed clothes", "pirate", etc... sounded like a bad costume party but then in hindsight made total sense. sometimes they are literal descriptions and other times they are a play on words... and still others they are more like cockney rhyming slang. Turkish Bath aaaht loud. , Obie Trice innit? Edited July 7, 2011 by JWFearman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The seagulls I know of are male. I know the "Seagull" Lizz is referring to, and she is very much a female. That said, considering the time period of the event (and the assumed time period of the casino), I think the idea of Seagull = Camera is IMHO, quite ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The idea of a camera doesn't actually have to be a literal camera... security, someone that watches, even perhaps someone like the guys from the Cirque Du Freak SZ. Thats like saying the seagulls are going to be actual seagulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_K. Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I was thinking about this "Spanish house." I recall someone talking about a nod to Catacombs, and wasn't there a bit of the plague during The Spanish Inquisition? It just hadn't reached the outstanding number just yet? Not much talk of plauge and influenza during the Spanish Inquisition. But here's an excerpt of the horror that Francisco Pizarro brought to Peru during his destruction of the Incas. The day after their arrival, in what at first appeared to be a lunatic endeavour, Pizarro and his men massacred thousands of Inca warriors and captured Atahualpa. Although ridiculously outnumbered, the Spaniards had the advantages of surprise, steel, cannons and, above all, mounted cavalry. The decisive battle was over in a matter of hours: with Atahualpa prisoner, Pizarro was effectively in control of the Inca Empire. Atahualpa was promised his freedom if he could fill the famous ransom room at Cajamarca with gold. Caravans overladen with the precious metal arrived from all over the land and within six months the room was filled: a treasure worth over one and a half million pesos, which was already enough to make each of the conquerors extremely wealthy. Pizarro, however, chose to keep the Inca leader as a hostage in case of Indian revolt, amid growing suspicions that Atahualpa was inciting his generals to attack the Spanish. Atahualpa almost certainly did send messages to his chiefs in Cusco, including orders to execute his brother Huascar who was already in captivity there. Under pressure from his worried captains, Pizarro brought Atahualpa to trial in July 1533, a mockery of justice in which he was given a free choice: to be burned alive as a pagan or strangled as a Christian. They baptized him and then killed him. With nothing left to keep him in Cajamarca, Pizarro made his way through the Andes to Cusco where he crowned a puppet emperor, Manco Inca , of royal Indian blood. After all the practice that the Spaniards had had in imposing their culture on both the Moors in Spain and the Aztecs in Mexico, it took them only a few years to replace the Inca Empire with a working colonial mechanism. Now that the Inca civil wars were over, the natives seemed happy to retire quietly into the hills and get back to the land. However, more than wars, disease was responsible for the almost total lack of initial reaction to the new conquerors. The native population had dropped from some 32 million in 1520 to only five million by 1548 - a decline due mainly to new European ailments such as smallpox, measles, bubonic plague, whooping cough and influenza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangeoneout Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Back in the day, before high tech video surveillance, Casinos built catwalks with mirrored glass that security personal could look down onto the casino floor from. From up there they could see the whole floor and monitor anyone who was possibly cheating. Which location is it that we think has a lot of covered ceilings or possible up scares according to the permits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Here's what I think of "Seagull": In just about every casino, there is an office with a two way mirror that covers a "bird's eye view" of the whole casino. Whoever runs the casino (icon perhaps?), would most likely be related to this codenamed role title. Edit: strangeoneout beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizz Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The idea of a camera doesn't actually have to be a literal camera... security, someone that watches, even perhaps someone like the guys from the Cirque Du Freak SZ. Thats like saying the seagulls are going to be actual seagulls. Fairly certain that's not what your original post was implying, but that does make a bit more sense. I went in a different direction with the "seagull" role, dealing more with entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEyeOfHorus Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) some of you are way too hung up on one or two ideas. open your mind and you will find its more simple yet less obvious than you realize. Though with time and patience they will find you. Edited July 7, 2011 by TheEyeOfHorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 The idea of a camera doesn't actually have to be a literal camera... security, someone that watches, even perhaps someone like the guys from the Cirque Du Freak SZ. Thats like saying the seagulls are going to be actual seagulls. Then say "Security," not "Camera." And I still think it's a massive stretch that "Seagull" = "Camera" = "Security," because the Seagull I know (bless her heart) doesn't necessarily strike and intimidating figure. Back in the day, before high tech video surveillance, Casinos built catwalks with mirrored glass that security personal could look down onto the casino floor from. From up there they could see the whole floor and monitor anyone who was possibly cheating. Which location is it that we think has a lot of covered ceilings or possible up scares according to the permits? Tent 1 was the one with most of the overhang. I don't recall much in Tent 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 some of you are way too hung up on one or two ideas. open your mind and you will find its more simple yet less obvious than you realize. Though with time and patience they will find you. I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jimmy Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) I will give my impression of one of the code words. Widow = Chance. She's killed Jack and now has a new partner Fate. Sort of like when Harley left "Mr. J" for Ivy, but a little more permanently. Seagull is interesting as a code-name, the first thing I think of are those birds from Finding Nemo who always say "Mine!" Now about Chance and Icons in general. We are a bunch of geeks, and as such we overly involve ourselves with little bits of continuity. But the general public doesn't give a rat's ass about any of that. Throughout the history of Iconic characters at HHN we have seen these characters reworked, revised, and reimagined numerous times. Jack started as an undead child murdering clown, then a mental patient, then a Ringmaster, and finally the incarnation of Chaos. Eddie started out as Jack, then a psychopathic horror film fan, then Jack's evil "little" brother. The Storyteller was first a witch-like figure from Louisiana with no name, then Elsa Strict the matriarch of a demented family of rednecks, then the incarnation of Legend without a Southern Accent. Sindy began as the evil daughter of the late Paul Bearer, then was the Caretaker's dead Daughter, then his reanimated Daughter, then a mysterious Orfan with pyrokinetic powers. So then why shouldn't Chance evolve as well? Become something utterly new and different? Already she has changed from a brown haired chainsaw wielding looney into the red haired vixen with the knife we saw last year. She could be completely reimagined as an entirely new figure with only a tenuous connection to Jack for us obsessed fans, but to the general public she will just be this years iconic figure of Lady Luck.... along with Fate. Edited July 7, 2011 by Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Its all in theory. If you remember though, in Fear Revealed Cindy and Chance were the only people in the SZ to not have burn marks. Maybe they are coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingBunnies Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Cindy's not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizz Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 (edited) Its all in theory. If you remember though, in Fear Revealed Cindy and Chance were the only people in the SZ to not have burn marks. Maybe they are coming back? Again, it pays to go back and read speculation before posting. I think I am going to become the preacher of this practice. Go back five or so pages. This has been discussed. If they were in fact the only ones without burn marks (I completely missed that fact and hadn't heard it mentioned before), then perhaps it was Universal's way of letting us know there was a potential for them to return at a later date. HOWEVER. Cindy will not be back this year. Of that, I am rather certain. Edited July 7, 2011 by Lizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Quien quiere hablar espanol? Ventiuna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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