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Just watched Dr. Jimmy clue #7 again... The whole song could easily be applied directly to Doctor Who. He says, "the snowflakes that fall have a meaning". In the show, I don't know how many times it ended up snowing ash from various ships that exploded over London. From 1:17 - 1:31 in the song he is literally describing a time lord. The song itself is more or less about a character longing to go home where those he loves are, but the home seems to always to be changing much like London is always changing in the show. Cassi clue #5 is a nursery rhyme that supposedly was referenced in Dr. Who in season 7 possibly episode 7 The Rings of Akhaten roughly 41 minutes into it (there is some confusion here on the episode #) released on April 6th. So we have a 6, 7, 7, and the episode involves the Dr. and Clara visiting a solar system with 7 revolving planets and at some point they are wandering around at a market and the locals are preparing for a Festival of Offerings. Would Doctor Who even be possible? I'm a pretty big fan of the show, but I'm not certain that it would be considered horror. There definitely are creatures that are frightening.

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I agree that Cassi clue 8 and 7 are most likely 2 different houses or street. With that being said, clue 8 is a board game that involves entrapment. The writing implies someone is being lured in due to the creature's beauty. The main creatures that come to my mind when applying those variables are succubi or vampires. Assuming that the Dr. Jimmy 3 little maid clue is connected to this, which I have no clue if it is, then we have 3 female (or possibly male) geishas who are clearly hiding something and are alluring. We also know that geishas were top tier prostitutes. You mention the Japanese urban legends on Dr. Jimmy's tumblr, but I haven't seen those. I did see pics of HHN Singapore 2013 which had 3 evil sisters (the Evil Maiden of the Opera, the Crone of the Forest, and the Daughter of the Undead), but I don't think that has anything to do with any of this years stuff. However, if there were urban legends posted from earlier dates, I must have missed them. To sum all that up in a few words, we have 3 supernatural beings that have sex and entrap their victims through beauty and manipulation who may be responsible for the origin of a legend.

Take a look at this...

Twilight Denali Clan Origins from this website "http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Denali_coven" , "The three sisters (Tanya, Kate, and Irina) then searched for pleasurable company of men to deal with their loss, and subsequently are the originators of the "succubus" legend; a demon in the form of a beautiful woman who has sexual intercourse with men before killing them."

If you look past the idea that it is Twilight, does it not fit the theme we are looking for?

Link to Japan Legends on the Good Doctor's tumblr:

http://drjimmyandbob.tumblr.com/post/85187863157/illustrated-book-of-japanese-monsters-by-gojin-ishihara

Geishas, while innuendo and flirting may be involved, are not prostitues (there is still confusion and controversary regarding geishas). The original male geishas were entertainers who performed for the patrons of the Oiran. The Oiran were the courtesans. While some prostitutes will refer to themselves as geishas, they are not geishas.

Doc's use of Three Little Maids most likely is not due to any numerical significance, but is due to it's representation of "geishas" and Japanese imagery.

Using the Doc's tumblr images, one can see how beauty can hide a demon in Japanese folklore:

Jorōgumo:

"According to some stories, a Jorōgumo is a spider that can change its appearance into that of a seductive woman."

Several of the other images portray female yokai or demons.

While the Denali coven may be considered the "originators" of the succubus legend in The Twilight world, succubi and incubi are legends with various sources that have been around, etymologically speaking, since the 12th century.

Folklores and legends from Ancient Egypt have creatures that resemble succubi.

The use of a myth/legend in a book does not make every other mention of that myth linked to that particular book series.

If that were the case, then I could argue the following:

Richelle Mead wrote a series of books about a succubus. Ms. Mead is best known for her Vampire Academy book series and it's spin off The Bloodlines series. Vampire Academy had a movie released this year. The DVD for Vampire Academy comes out on May 20th (tomorrow). Since Mike has stated we are going to get an announcement soon, the announcement is for a Vampire Academy house/street.

^this of course is not going to happen. The foremost reason being, VA isn't horror just like Twilight isn't horror.

One thing more: Universal already as Incubi and Succubi within the HHN mythos.

Edit: Regarding the Go! game board in Clue 8. My husband has stated it isn't Braille, or if it is, the spacing for it is wrong.

I'm awful at "math" puzzles. Graphs frighten me. I will be of no help for that particular part of the riddle.

One more edit: I completely missed the excluding Twilight part of that. I apologize. Doc has posted clues about vampires, but succubi aren't traditionally vampires. They are more akin to sirens and mermaids in mythology.

I feel Doc's vampire hints and his Japanese references are separate.

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Just watched Dr. Jimmy clue #7 again... The whole song could easily be applied directly to Doctor Who. He says, "the snowflakes that fall have a meaning". In the show, I don't know how many times it ended up snowing ash from various ships that exploded over London. From 1:17 - 1:31 in the song he is literally describing a time lord. The song itself is more or less about a character longing to go home where those he loves are, but the home seems to always to be changing much like London is always changing in the show. Cassi clue #5 is a nursery rhyme that supposedly was referenced in Dr. Who in season 7 possibly episode 7 The Rings of Akhaten roughly 41 minutes into it (there is some confusion here on the episode #) released on April 6th. So we have a 6, 7, 7, and the episode involves the Dr. and Clara visiting a solar system with 7 revolving planets and at some point they are wandering around at a market and the locals are preparing for a Festival of Offerings. Would Doctor Who even be possible? I'm a pretty big fan of the show, but I'm not certain that it would be considered horror. There definitely are creatures that are frightening.

As much as I'd LOVE a Doctor Who house, I just don't see it happening.

Doctor Who is gaining popularity in America, but not enough of the general public is aware of it to get super excited for it having a presence.

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As much as I'd LOVE a Doctor Who house, I just don't see it happening.

Doctor Who is gaining popularity in America, but not enough of the general public is aware of it to get super excited for it having a presence.

I would probably go down to Orlando just to see a Doctor Who house, but after reading this on imdb under trivia I think it leaves little doubt what Cassi clue #5 is referring to...

The Purge

"There are six sirens when opening Purge at 7 pm March 21st and seven sirens when closing Purge at 7 am March 22nd.

At the very beginning of the movie, when James Sandin arrives home, he says "Home again, home again, jiggety-jig". This is from the opening of an old nursery rhyme: To market, to market, to buy a fat pig/Home again, home again, jiggety-jig."

I'm still hoping though.

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We may have cracked Cassi's code on Clue 8.

Jeramy tried coordinates. They pointed to an alley in Pasadena, CA called Hugus Alley.

After many a googling fingers:

Hugus Alley was used in the movie The Sting.

Once you get me into my word play semantic zone...

An alley used in the Sting? Sting Alley!

So Japanese urban legends/horror in Sting Alley!

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We may have cracked Cassi's code on Clue 8.

Jeramy tried coordinates. They pointed to an alley in Pasadena, CA called Hugus Alley.

After many a googling fingers:

Hugus Alley was used in the movie The Sting.

Once you get me into my word play semantic zone...

An alley used in the Sting? Sting Alley!

So Japanese urban legends/horror in Sting Alley!

I was pretty disappointed last year when I was sitting in that alley drinking a beer and wondering how they had nothing set up there (other than some sort of vehicle at the front of one of the entrances). In my opinion, that alley is one of the best spots in the whole park in relation to atmosphere. The scare zone from HHN 20 stills pops up in my head on occasion. I'm not so sure Japanese horror fits in there, but oh well, something is definitely better than nothing.

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The song from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang sung by "The Child Catcher". El Cucuy?

I think it could be him but I not going to assume anything yet because richard o brian who played the child cathcher in Chitty chitty bang bang on westend broadway show made rocky horror picture show

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I'll toss a few things that popped in my head for hint #9. At the beginning, I was thinking of the creature from Jeepers Creepers. Toward the end there was a mention of candy. At that point, I was thinking maybe the witch from Hansel and Gretel (witch hunter movie?). When I was trying to find the witch's name, I read that the 1st publication of Hansel and Gretel was recorded by the Brother's Grimm and published in 1812. So maybe Grimm??? I guess I'll listen to it a couple more times and see if I can read up some more information.

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I'll toss a few things that popped in my head for hint #9. At the beginning, I was thinking of the creature from Jeepers Creepers. Toward the end there was a mention of candy. At that point, I was thinking maybe the witch from Hansel and Gretel (witch hunter movie?). When I was trying to find the witch's name, I read that the 1st publication of Hansel and Gretel was recorded by the Brother's Grimm and published in 1812. So maybe Grimm??? I guess I'll listen to it a couple more times and see if I can read up some more information.

I think you are tad off with this guess

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I think we are getting The Boogeyman as our Urban Legend house this year but I don't think it will be specifically El Cucuy. Could be the RHPS connection to announce the show officially coming or maybe a house possibly?

Yeah I agree this was to easy to be el cucuy sirowendisney

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