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"We know you are waiting… and soon we’ll be able to share. Get ready." This was on the Universal HHN FB page today.

You know, I've been thinking about the whole P&T thing, and is it possible that we've been putting too much stock in their involvement, and just assumed that they're directly involved as the face of the end product? What I mean is, maybe they've been brought on more as consultants and instructors to talk about how they most effectively use misdirection for some of their tricks, or how some of the gorier ones are set up? Maybe it won't be a Penn & Teller house at all, but rather a Penn & Teller influenced house? Misdirection is a big part of any successful haunted house, after all. Not sure how likely this might be; just trying to look at it from a different angle.

Cleaned up the thread a bit. Try and stay on the speculation topics and not post general "This sucks" or "That would suck" posts.

HOS at the Gardens gave 2 updates today......come on Uni......

Here are some live streaming links for Comic-Con 2012. The Walking Dead panel is live at 4:25PM EST (1:25PM PST). I'm not sure if any of these feeds will broadcast it, but just in case. http://www.ustream.tv/embed/11529383 http://www.ustream.tv/MTV http://pinoymostlike...online-and.html

I could even see P&T making a cameo appearance via videoscreens... you can't tell me that its not possible because they did it in H.R. Bloodengutz last year with every scene change as an intro to the scene. In 2008, Bloody Mary (and Micheal Roddy) have videoscreen cameos in Interstellar Terror. 2008's The Hallow had a projection of Bloody Mary... she'd walk into the scene, look at you, (i think motion for you to come closer similar to the Tower of Terror ghosts), then disappear... Then of course there is always voice-overs being heard throughout the house... maybe even to mock you, or as zombieman said, misdirect you. There IS also a rumor that the P&T house will be in 3D.... (we'll have to wait and see if that is true)

Forsaken Vampires? Niiiiiiice.

Minherlino Man

After a certain Comic Con event, if I had to guess

id much rather have bloodengutz than p&t

Honestly, if that's the case, I don't mind it too much....but I am still really BLUH on P&T being involved at all, though.

Nope. He had no idea which one it was, only that it was close to TNA.

And Canyon... which was the Nightmaze costume with a different mask. And Luck... which was an off-the-shelf green dress, wig and horrible mask. And Zombie Gras... which was old Mardi Gras costumes... I could go on forever!

Here's what we know: Nothing Other than the fact that we're getting a Walking Dead themed house, and that there were six permits submitted (which we don't even know if some houses are or aren't dual path yet), we personally know nothing. If you're willing to risk your reputation on here and say that something is a 100% going to happen, then do so and we'll see if it comes to fruition. I suggest that instead of continuing to base arguments on rumors and other speculation that you might've heard here, or from a friend, or the guy that valets the cars at Universal, that we at least wait till we get the basic gist of what this event is gonna bring this year from the website itself. I know that this is a speculation thread (and by all means keep speculating), but it gets a little repetitive and redundant when you basically see the same post/argument, talking about the same thing for the past 20 pages. I personally have faith in Universal, not because I've grown to love the event, but because they're a business. They know that they have to knock it out of the park every year if they don't want to see dwindling numbers and sales. Harry Potter might be a cash cow, but Horror Nights is a cash cow and alot easier to profit from. Especially from liquor. Something else I wanted to mention. I, like everyone is really sad over the fact that Ray was't asked back to join the team for website design this year. This doesn't mean they might dumb down the website though (like Hollywood's. Sorry West coasters). They might just want to go in a different direction than years past. Just in the last day I've seen people demean others here over certain opinions they've made. Like Mark (mz_) has mentioned, we don't want to hide posts or lock topics. We just want people to be civil to each other. When it comes down to it, we all have one thing in common. We all love Horror Nights and are all very passionate about it. tl;dr : Chill out peeps and be patient. Speculate about the event, not argue with each other's opinions.

I honestly think all this bitching and moaning is hilarious. Get over it people. The fact of the matter is HHN is a seasonal event, and yes I do love it dearly just as much as you guys, but I like Universal Studios Florida a lot more considering it's kinda sorta vital to HHN. USF is getting HUGE improvements, and if the event has to suffer for one year I really couldn't get a shit. Here's the breakdown of what's going to happen. 1. Everyone's going to continue to bitch due to uncertainty 2. Some information will come out. Everyone will get excited then complain about it. (Just like every year) 3. Repeat step 2 multiple times. I like to call this phenomenon the Excitma-Bitch 4. A big reveal will happen. Everyone's excited about HHN. "This could be the worst HHN ever but I'm so excited." 5. Everyone goes to the event and the vast majority of us are STILL happy because at the end of the day there is an HHN with houses, and streets, and scares and booze. People bitch about the event year, in my 5 years of following speculation I've never had a year where people didn't complain. People complained about how bad New Line would be, how shitty Bloody Mary would be, the absurdity of an exclusive "Movie Year", how crazy it is to get rid of all the old franchises, a lot of things last year and my all time favorite how there was too much blue at the event. Point of the matter is people will complain. There is also a difference between being critical of something you've experienced and watching the trailer for a movie you're uncertain about but claiming it should win a Razzie based solely on that trailer. Come on guys, you're all going to go and atleast 75% of you will enjoy the event over all. Can we be bestfriends? And I'm really not trying to start a conflict but I wouldn't bitch if my parents were giving me a free vacation to Halloween Horror Nights, even if it was the "worst year". In a few years the days of free vacations will be long over and you'll be wishing your parents were paying the $7000 for your trip.