HHN front gate security

[hhnholdem]

Does anybody else feel that the metal detectors at the front gate during HHN are useless? From my experience, daytime guests do not go through the detectors and people could stay with the Stay and Scream. Also, the detectors go off every time. It seems security only wants to see your car keys and then you're free to go. Personally, I feel safer after seeing twenty plus uniformed police officers with guns. So what do you think, should HHN even screen people at the front gate? The park guests already went through the top-notch team guarding City Walk.

[Grime]

Love the sarcasm, and I don't feel it is necessary but I do think is dissuades people from bringing weapons into the park. Sure there are ways around the metal detector (which I won't get into here) but when people know they're going to be screened they usually leave weapons at home.

[Oysterhead00]

I have ZERO problems with it. I think of teenage gangbangers, thugs, punks, etc and what they carry...coming to HHN at NIGHT with alcohol in every line and I fully understand the hassle. I'm a diabetic and carry metal tipped vials of insulin and syringes which cause me a hassle with security, but safety has to come first. Even if it's overkill, it's a small price to pay to know that the dumb drunk who cuts you in line and you confront, likely isn't going to pull a gun or knife on you.

I know it's annoying and slows up the line and YOU might not be a risk, but I fully support it.

[HORRORLANDO]

Love the sarcasm, and I don't feel it is necessary but I do think is dissuades people from bringing weapons into the park. Sure there are ways around the metal detector (which I won't get into here) but when people know they're going to be screened they usually leave weapons at home.

I agree. I think that they are there for more of a scare tactic. Last year when I went with my sister I had to wait outside with her because she didn't have a daytime park ticket. I usually do the stay and scream because i'm an annual passholder. Anyways when we went through the detectors one officer told me that the chain for my wallet had to come off because I wasn't allowed to bring it in the park. Really a wallet chain...?

[LV-426]

of course they are, even if they go off and seem useless, I think they are really important

[CinemaOfTheDead]

Well I feel so much secure than the usual "let me see your bag for less than 5 seconds" but it doesn't take too much time to wait in line either way so I don't mind at all.

[giant4203]

Honestly, I wouldn't work the event if they didn't have metal detectors in place at the front gate.

[hhnholdem]

I understand how they can be effective. I just thought it was funny that I got yelled at last year. On opening night I was one of the first few people to go through and they didn't tell people to empty their pockets and put their hands above their heads. I put my stuff in one of those trays and slid it down the table while walking through the detector. The very next night is when they first started telling people to walk through with the objects above their heads and hands facing out.

[Cody]

I agree. I think that they are there for more of a scare tactic. Last year when I went with my sister I had to wait outside with her because she didn't have a daytime park ticket. I usually do the stay and scream because i'm an annual passholder. Anyways when we went through the detectors one officer told me that the chain for my wallet had to come off because I wasn't allowed to bring it in the park. Really a wallet chain...?

It may seem stupid, but chains can very easily be used as a weapon. Just ask anyone who's taken a hit across the eye from one.

I don't find anything wrong with metal detectors, simply because HHN attracts far more thugs, gangbangers, violent drunks, and many other dregs of society than the daytime park. Alcohol flows almost freely there, and late night is the preferred time for most punks to be causing trouble.

Just so everyone knows, there were also metal detectors at Grad Bash in May, so it's not just the HHN crowd that gets checked. We ended up with a MASSIVE fight in Central Park that night, with a few dozen people slamming around into the snack stand near there. Think of how much worse it would be with a few of them sneaking in blades.

[Hush]

In this day and age, hell yes metal detectors are completely necessary.

[jackisbackandthatsafact]

I dont mind them they do take a little extra time but they kinda organize the line going in and ive been in a couple confrontations with people because they would be cutting in line and i definatelly feel good that people dont have like knives in stuff especially with all those drunks, i think the event is doing a good job with security.

[Cody]

I still remember the fishhook debacle from last year. Did he pass through the metal detectors?

[kimlovesfl]

I wish they searched people better, actually, and of course we need the metal detectors. People try all kinds of crazy shit at HHN, and everyone wold be far less safe without those detectors.

At Grad Bash, wallet chains are not allowed, and security is much stricter about what is and isn't allowed in the park. Even hairspray and perfume is confiscated.

[LV-426]

and even the metal detectors dont always catch everything, I still feel pissed about the razors and hooks they put in leave it to cleaver, what the hell!

[Cody]

I wish they searched people better, actually, and of course we need the metal detectors. People try all kinds of crazy shit at HHN, and everyone wold be far less safe without those detectors.

At Grad Bash, wallet chains are not allowed, and security is much stricter about what is and isn't allowed in the park. Even hairspray and perfume is confiscated.

Unfortunately, they can't search TOO thoroughly without getting someone pissed off. All it takes is one hand in the wrong place on a girl while patting her down and she's screaming about lawsuits.

I remember graduation. We were all patted down before entering to make sure we weren't bringing in anything. We were only allowed to bring our car key and nothing else (just that one key; not even on an empty ring). Even with how strict they were, the guards were still afraid to put there hands anywhere too friendly, so they totally skipped my back pockets where I had hidden my I.D.

[Mae]

I have ZERO problems with it. I think of teenage gangbangers, thugs, punks, etc and what they carry...coming to HHN at NIGHT with alcohol in every line and I fully understand the hassle. I'm a diabetic and carry metal tipped vials of insulin and syringes which cause me a hassle with security, but safety has to come first. Even if it's overkill, it's a small price to pay to know that the dumb drunk who cuts you in line and you confront, likely isn't going to pull a gun or knife on you.

I know it's annoying and slows up the line and YOU might not be a risk, but I fully support it.

There don't seem to be issues at HoS and their security is much lighter than at HHN (no metal detectors, no security guards telling you to empty your pockets) and there are hoards of thugs, wanna-bes, and gangstas at HoS.

I don't mind the metal detectors, but the heavy scrutiny followed by the complete lack of order inside the park upsets me, severly. I've seen multiple fights, actors being assaulted or molested, other guests pushed down or climbed over in their wheelchairs, and, of course, the underage drinking and en masse line breaking. All of that, I have seen 1 guest removed in all the years I've been going. Not that I think they will ever attempt to correct anything as most people assume that they are safe after going through metal detectors.

Mae

[Cody]

There don't seem to be issues at HoS and their security is much lighter than at HHN (no metal detectors, no security guards telling you to empty your pockets) and there are hoards of thugs, wanna-bes, and gangstas at HoS.

I don't mind the metal detectors, but the heavy scrutiny followed by the complete lack of order inside the park upsets me, severly. I've seen multiple fights, actors being assaulted or molested, other guests pushed down or climbed over in their wheelchairs, and, of course, the underage drinking and en masse line breaking. All of that, I have seen 1 guest removed in all the years I've been going. Not that I think they will ever attempt to correct anything as most people assume that they are safe after going through metal detectors.

Mae

There's one security guard that my mom and I are buddies with, after her wheelchair was parked next to his spot in Horrorwood. He's very good at his job and always catches the idiots trying to mess with the scareactors (I caught him lecturing a couple kids who were stalking them), but he was really the only one in Horrorwood who was doing anything except for that one incident where a dude got tased.

[Barbaric Derek]

I don't mind the caution. What I hated was the one year I wore my trench coat. Security wasn't going to let me in... that I had to leave my coat in my car or at the gate. Like I was going to walk all the way back to my car let alone leave it at the gate. I offered them to search the entire coat. Not good enough. So I argued to be escorted to guest services to get my money back since there was no notice of a dress code about such coats (and it was a chilly night that night). After not moving, another security officer finally let me through after I called the coat a duster. What complete and utter bull. If that's how the officers are, it's no wonder they need metal detectors.

[traveller]

I have only gone thru them once, no big deal. I have been going to HHN since 03 usally non-peak

nights. I have honestly NEVER seen anything such as fighting ,line jumping, harrassing scarectors

or security getting on to anyone.I don't excatly look for it either, but from what I hear it does go on.

I guess I have been lucky to be going on nights that the trouble makers stay home.

[Dreamstalker]

I've seen it. I mean I think the police that they hire do a pretty good job of making there presence known. Ive seen the line jumping the fighting and the underage drinking and they do catch a lot. But they cant catch everyone. I think there more concerned with keeping people safe and they do a decent job at that.

[Cody]

I have only gone thru them once, no big deal. I have been going to HHN since 03 usally non-peak

nights. I have honestly NEVER seen anything such as fighting ,line jumping, harrassing scarectors

or security getting on to anyone.I don't excatly look for it either, but from what I hear it does go on.

I guess I have been lucky to be going on nights that the trouble makers stay home.

You've been lucky. Last year someone got violent and had to be tased.

[LV-426]

You've been lucky. Last year someone got violent and had to be tased.

What!!

i would like to hear more about this, you made me very curious

Edited July 3, 2010 by black7mask

[Sweeneys Emo Kid Megz]

I still remember the fishhook debacle from last year. Did he pass through the metal detectors?

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread.

I have only gone thru them once, no big deal. I have been going to HHN since 03 usally non-peak

nights. I have honestly NEVER seen anything such as fighting ,line jumping, harrassing scarectors

or security getting on to anyone.I don't excatly look for it either, but from what I hear it does go on.

I guess I have been lucky to be going on nights that the trouble makers stay home.

You must have been. I've been since '08, all on non-peak nights and I've seen every one of the problems listed.

[Cody]

What!!

i would like to hear more about this, you made me very curious

I heard it from a security guard that we befriended over the course of the event. I don't remember all the details, but someone attacked somebody else (might have been attacking a scareactor) around Horrorwood and got chased down and tased in Hacktion. Or maybe I have the scarezones backwards. The details are all lost.

[dark_orphan]

I heard it from a security guard that we befriended over the course of the event. I don't remember all the details, but someone attacked somebody else (might have been attacking a scareactor) around Horrorwood and got chased down and tased in Hacktion. Or maybe I have the scarezones backwards. The details are all lost.

The guy verbably attacked a scareactor(girl) in Hacktion. One of the guys told the kid to calm down and walk away. The guy wouldn't back down and continued to threaten both of them this time. The cop overheard and stepped in. The guy started getting in the cops face and wouldn't back down. Something happened and he was tased however he got up and ran towards Horrorwood and got tased again.