Trevler Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 if any of you know who King Diamond is....he would be the perfect guy to base mazes off of.....but he doesnt have the mass popularity as alice cooper/ozzy/zombie has http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/29437003/King+Diamond+unholy_flame.jpg Haha. No. I'd rather see a LORDI maze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Jeffula Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Lordi would be cool....or GWAR!!!!! seen both of them bands they are sick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwithtusks Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 God I hope there are no more music based mazes. Not because I don't love metal (believe me, I do...see my avatar) but because I'd rather more horror based ideas. Whether they're folklore like La Llarona or a new idea like twisted fairy tales or whatever. I don't want to see bands involved in any of it any more. I know just about everything in horror mazes has been done outside Universal Hollywood (see Scary Tales) but I'd like to see how Murdy takes it on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Jeffula Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 If they didnt have a musician based maze that would be fine.....BBBUUUTTTT the only one they really had has been Alice Cooper...Yes Rob Zombie had his maze but it was based on his movie (duh)..they can have potential....you never know....Britney Spears can have a maze one day and it will blow us all away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Murdy tweeted some today and gave some hints about Trickster. I would copy and paste but I'm on my phone. Anyway, the jist was the clue came in 1981 when he was in school and someone dressed in a devil's uniform held an assembly and warned them to stay away from evil behavior (Murdy used the word "evil" quite a lot) and not to go see (as in movie) or hear (as in current album or concert, I'm assuming) what the theme of the Trickster maze is. Edited June 17, 2013 by DTH316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Two of the rumored houses Evil Dead and AWIL were released in 1981, but I feel like there's note behind this since he's apparently scared of doing this maze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightEdge Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Two of the rumored houses Evil Dead and AWIL were released in 1981, but I feel like there's note behind this since he's apparently scared of doing this maze. Maybe Poltergiest? Since it came out the next year in 1982 He could be scared of doing that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurseddragon Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Maybe it's go see the "evil" book. Or listen to the recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) So I'm back and thought it was time I jumped back into the speculating! I have a theory I'd like to put forth for "Trickster" based on the hint DTH posted, and may account for the fact that all the other hints havnt leant themselves to any single property. I think "Trickster" is an original anthology maze based on different ghost stories throughout history across the world! Let me explain... (word of warning, I'm behind on speculation this year so I may be missing hints) DTH said that the newest hint talked about a movie in 1981 they were told "not to see" and something musically "not to listen to." while some of the usual suspects (Evil Dead, AWIL, ect) were released in 1981, the hint also said that the movie and musical thing was a hint to the theme of the maze, not the exact property the maze is based on. However!!! 1981 saw the release of Ghost Story, a movie some of you may remember being discussed last year during the La Llorona speculation. Could "Ghost Story" then be the theme? An anthology of popular ghost stories like La Llorona combined for a single maze? La Llorona was very popular the last two years, so I don't see why this wouldn't work. It could also possibly explain why Murdy is "scared" to do the maze. Could his fear come from something other then the exact content of the maze? Perhaps his fear comes more from about how he is going to pull a maze like this off considering there wouldn't be any singular linear storyline throughout the maze and instead is a series of stories one after then other. As far as the "thing not to listen to", The Police released an album in 1981 called Ghost in the Machine, that featured the song Spirits in the Material World. Alrighty so that's my big return to the speculating arena! Thoughts? Edited June 17, 2013 by Stitch_101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurseddragon Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Murdy also said no one has ever speculated this since the start of HHN, right? o.o Or was that not Trickster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't think it's going to be an original ghost house since Insidious is likely, but I agree that it's probably not a hint that can only mean AWIL or Evil Dead. Some 1981 horror movies that have a name that could be a hint...The Beyond, Black Cat, Blood Beach, Bloody Birthday, The Burial Ground, The Burning, Cannibal Ferox, Dead and Buried, The Funhouse, House by the Cemetary, Jaws of Satan, Omen III, Porno Holocaust, Student Bodies, There was a Little Girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) ^ I get what your saying, but looking at all those titles, most of them don't sound like "themes" for a maze at all. He said the name of the movie or musical act/song/artist/whatever was the theme for the maze, not just a hint for the maze. The Funhouse, I could see that being considered a theme, but most are too specific to be boiled down to an overall theme and wouldn't match any of the other hints that have been given about Trickster. And I wouldn't say just because we might get Insidious we wouldn't get another "ghost" maze. Look at HHNO... They were rumoured to get both TWD and Resident Evil, two zombie mazes. Sure it's unlikely, but not impossible. Edited June 17, 2013 by Stitch_101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 You can't compare TWD and RE in HHNO to a generic ghost house and Insidious in HHNH. HHNO has more mazes and is generally themed to some agree. HHNH has much less of a theme and less mazes. TWD, RE, and Insidious are IPs that hold an air of exclusiveness. A ghost house has been done by...everyone. Murdy said that Suffer the Children "reveals the theme" of a maze. So to him, "reveals the theme" means "hint." It's not like Suffer the Children ended up being a maze about the Moors Murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsik_22 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Two of the rumored houses Evil Dead and AWIL were released in 1981, but I feel like there's note behind this since he's apparently scared of doing this maze. ., Edited June 18, 2013 by shark23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Suffer Little Children did reveal the theme of the maze though... the death of children was one of the driving factors in the maze, and in turn La Llorona. Your right, Suffer Little Children didn't point to a maze about the Moors Murders... But not because the "theme" was wrong or off, but because when you combined that theme with the hints given about the maze it didn't lead to the Moors Murders. Its also kind of counter productive to dismiss one form of speculation because another form of speculation might clash with it. At this point it's all speculation. We have no idea what we will get come September. Yes, we might get Insidious, and I would agree then that 2 ghost mazes is over kill (and I personally will think WTF if Orlando does do both TWD and Resident Evil) But right now, we don't know if we are getting Insidious, so we shouldn't really rule another possibility out. Now I know Insidious has a LOT going for it: a new movie, Murdy and Blum talking last year, ect. I am a fan of the first and would love an Insidious maze. I would also point out that, after going back and reading stuff, Murdy said that the assembly where they were told those things took place in 1981, but not necessarily that the movie or whatever was released in 1981. That would be something else to consider. Edited June 17, 2013 by Stitch_101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Had to look at the cheat sheet for a while...and none of these film properties match up. When he said see or listen to, he could have meant a general term like evil or demonic things and then threw in "is it a music act...or a movie?" as a red herring. Then again it could just be AC, and seeing how much he has been hyping it up, I'm kind of leaning towards that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 God I hope not AC again... I'm in the camp of people who think AC needs to take a break for a few years lol. I will say though that he said the name of the movie or music act or whatever was the theme of the maze, no that the maze was based on the property itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And any of those titles could lead to a theme as much as "Suffer the Children" could lead to La Llorona. I brought it up since it sets precedent for how loosely Murdy defines "theme" which means "really big hint." He said the name of the movie or musical act/song/artist/whatever was the theme for the maze, not just a hint for the maze. Like how Suffer the Children is a song directly about the Moors Murders, but just turned about to relate to dead children. Yes, the other hints lead spec to La Llorona, but it doesn't mean there isn't a big leap between a song about two notorious British serial killers and a piece of Mexican folklore aside from the title. If you work with how Murdy connected those two things, there's a lot to be dug up in those movie titles. Trickster was also said to have never been done by anyone...ghost houses are very common in haunt history. Even if we don't get Insidious there's the problem of doing a generic ghost house when so many people (not me, but a lot of people) want Insidious and giving them a generic ghost house instead of going for another IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemasc11 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Off topic, but does anyone know when HHN 2013 auditions are? I haven't been able to find the info online. I'm not sure if it's just me or if it hasn't been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) Murdy has been saying JULY for the last few months. --- Working on maze audio today. So many mazes, so many sound effects. Went all the way back to Asylum (2006) today to pull an certain effect... Any vets remember any specific effects from Asylum that stand out? Edited June 17, 2013 by ferox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And any of those titles could lead to a theme as much as "Suffer the Children" could lead to La Llorona. I brought it up since it sets precedent for how loosely Murdy defines "theme" which means "really big hint." Like how Suffer the Children is a song directly about the Moors Murders, but just turned about to relate to dead children. Yes, the other hints lead spec to La Llorona, but it doesn't mean there isn't a big leap between a song about two notorious British serial killers and a piece of Mexican folklore aside from the title. If you work with how Murdy connected those two things, there's a lot to be dug up in those movie titles. Trickster was also said to have never been done by anyone...ghost houses are very common in haunt history. Even if we don't get Insidious there's the problem of doing a generic ghost house when so many people (not me, but a lot of people) want Insidious and giving them a generic ghost house instead of going for another IP. Now we are looking at how in depth Murdy links his hints to the mazes. In that one instance you are right, but the consistency with the depth and meanings behind his hints is so all over the place through out the years. It's got us to the point that we as fans who follow them look into every little things he says and try to dissect every little clue even when the meanings behind them are sometimes very simple and straight forward. That's one of the things that makes following some of his clues so difficult, we never known how far reaching any one hint might actually be. As far as having never been done before, that could mean different things. It's hard to find anything at all in popular horror that hasn't already been done or attempted in the haunt industry, which leads me to believe that it may not have anything to do with content at all and be more about presentation, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Jeffula Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Ozzy Osbournes "Diary of a Madman" was released in 1981 that can make for a good maze Evil Dead is a possibility but i doubt it will make an appearance because of the Murdy/Sony Beef, wont be shocked if it does it will make for a good maze American Werewolf in London..........doubt it Halloween 2 and Friday the 13th 2 were both released that year as well....good possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevler Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Off topic, but does anyone know when HHN 2013 auditions are? I haven't been able to find the info online. I'm not sure if it's just me or if it hasn't been posted. They haven't been announced yet. If I had to guess, I'd say Reunion auditions will be either July 13th or 14th with open call being the weekend after. Mods- if you want to spawn this off into a 2013 audition thread, feel free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemasc11 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 They haven't been announced yet. If I had to guess, I'd say Reunion auditions will be either July 13th or 14th with open call being the weekend after. Mods- if you want to spawn this off into a 2013 audition thread, feel free! Thank t Trying to do this through my screwed up phone isn't working out. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferox Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Anyway Stitch, I know that "never been done" is vague, but one of the most generic concepts (ghosts) is a far cry. I only brought up his sometimes nebulous connections he has called a theme in the past because you suggested the movie titles were too nebulous to be considered a theme. There's also the possibility that there's an obvious connection to be made, but it's the name of a lesser known albums or songs by one of the bands the trickster was trying to scare people away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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