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1 hour ago, ScottEdmondson41 said:
First time it was specifically designed for the event. That house in 25 was last minute changeover from a Scream house when they lost the rights to Scream at last minute so had to quickly change to Purge. And last year was the Purge section of Blumhouse was going to be Ouija until last minute. This is first time the Purge isn’t a last minute switch from something else they had rights issues with
I'm well aware that the 25 house had to be "thrown together". However, it doesn't change the actual fact that Purge was a house before. To say otherwise is simply false. It also doesn't change the fact that we've had variations of the Purge for way too many years now. That is my point. Too much of the same thing over and over completely devalues the content, and it sure as hell sucks away any chance of a good scare.
I've said this already, but I'll say it again - the presence of this house doesn't change my excitement or my anticipation for this year's event. I'll just skip this one. If you all enjoy it, more power to ya
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27 minutes ago, happy bunny rabbit said:
Uh...I'm a huge Evil Dead fan but...AvED was bad. Maybe not terrible, but IMO it was quite a bit worse than HoB.
I mean - I had never seen a Saw film when I went through the house last year but I adored that house. It was #3 on my list. I agree that Purge is overdone, but this is literally the first time the Purge has had a house at the event that was specifically designed for the IP. Not sure about you, but that's at least a little exciting to me. From what I've seen, TFP's costumes are pretty sick looking.
It is absolutely NOT the first time Purge has had a house. It had a house for 25.
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2 hours ago, happy bunny rabbit said:
I mean, HoB wasn't the worst last year imo.
I thought it was "The Past Will Haunt You."
Blumhouse definitely WAS the WORST last year. We went thru it twice and gave up. And usually - crappy movie, by definition, translates to crappy house. If I don't give a single shit about the property, why would I about the house? Purge is done.. overdone... stick a fork in it.
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I am beyond excited about Scary Tales. I am predicting it will be in my top 3 houses this year. For the record, screw Blumhouse. I will probably go through once to say I did it, and that's it. My entire group feels the same. They are definitely the new Walking Dead. But it's fine - it doesn't take away my excitement for this event one bit. My only disappointment is that we still have 3 weeks, 3 days more to wait.
As for announcements and traveling.. I've traveled from Chicago for this event since 2005. It would've never crossed my mind to wait and see what content was being announced before I would book my travel. I already know it will be the best Halloween event I attend all year, so I just have faith I will be blown away every year. I have NEVER been disappointed. If you really want to save money on planning travel... just plan it. I've had my airfare for all four weekends since April.
One other thing - has anyone seen the HHN28 logo yet? You know what I mean, right? Like I mentioned before.. HHN25 used the theater lights in the numbers, 26 had Chance's eye makeup.. Long story, but I need that logo.
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Thanks very much for posting these! Maybe I was having issues with my computer or something.. but one of these was definitely lost underneath the video.
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4 hours ago, QueenoftheBunnies said:
I’m really interested in seeing how Seeds of Extinction turns out because that just doesn’t seem like that scary of a concept.
I've learned never to think this way. I will never forget when I was lurking on these forums years ago, and the concept for Gothic was announced, and everyone was talking about gargoyles.. and I thought.. Well THAT is STUPID. That house will be a waste.
Needless to say, I was so very, very wrong. Turns out that house was AMAZING and it makes my top 5 HHN houses of all time. You can never, ever write off an original until you experience it. I have full faith in those guys to pull off something epic with this.
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53 minutes ago, Oysterhead00 said:
Marketing is for the general public, not for us freaks that hit refresh on this forum 100 times a day. :-) Joe Public has no clue about what was leaked and I know that nobody here believes it, but there's a method to marketing's madness. They aren't going to abandoned all plans because one poster went up and a handful of speculation forums picked up on it.
That's like if someone posted a "Bruce Willis............................" tweet about the Sixth Sense that a few people saw and then the release company comes out and annouces the twist ending.
Edit:. Don't point out the lack of Twitter at the time....you get my point
I get that.. but we are getting really close to opening night anyway. Why not toss a bone? People like to plan travel, get tickets, etc. So, let's go already.
39 minutes ago, HHN Pro said:The only problem is ours has The First Purge.
(Also, off-topic but whatever happened to The Conjuring? Wasn't it gonna be a house this year, but once again had to get scrapped?)
There is no way they are getting The Conjuring. Now that WB is promoting its own horror event, that ship has sailed
1 hour ago, Drummanmatt said:Uh oh, just seen on Twitter Hollywood’s site leaked what’s coming by accident, including their blumhouse.
Not sure how to do spoiler tags on here so won’t say what’s in Hollywood, but assume we’re probably getting similar properties in Orlando....
We definitely need official announcements. I can only assume they are waiting for the signoff of announcement vids, or some other minor holdup which is delaying things.
Im guessing the logo will be fairly standard, but with the video blip running through the middle (same as on the website). It’s simple, but effective. However, will they use 28 or 2018?
They always use the number not the year in Orlando
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Realistically, now that Marketing shit the bed again.. think we'll get an announcement this week? I mean, the poster with two of the unannounced houses are already out there.. so.. why wait?
Also, not to be nitpicky, but any spec on how they will print the HHN28 logo? For example, the 25 had Jack's theater lights (like dressing room lights) in the 25. For 26, the 26 had markings that looked like the makeup on Chance's eyes, etc.. Or will it just be a generic blood color 28? I am always interested in this kind of minutiae.
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Can anyone post the "movie posters" for this one at a time? I'm on the website, and the third movie poster is obscured by the video. I can't seem to get it to scroll. I wanted to look at the details on all three.
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5 minutes ago, faceleg said:
Idk I found lesbian porn vhs in the dumpster once. I
Why can I not get that lucky?
39 minutes ago, Drummanmatt said:Didn’t I tell you about this in London? It looks awesome.
Big question i have is. Does this tie into the Jack origin story? My guess is no, but it really should.
I don't think so.. our convo did get interrupted a few times though. However, when I said this was unexpected, i meant the announcement today. Made my whole day!
I would be SHOCKED if Jack isn't in this somewhere... not the character appearing, but his story.
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Well this was unexpected... and it looks AWESOME (side note: how do i just get the tweet to show up in my post instead of just the URL? Sorry.. not savvy with this kind of stuff)
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35 minutes ago, Ueeediot said:
Um, so Portofino is already sold out of base rooms with King beds for the last week of Oct 2019????? Jeeze (10/18 -10/26) Damn y'all is quick!
Well, ok, then. Booked at Royal Pacific for HHN29!
Then GF says the silliest thing ever. "You know we are going to Disney in 20 and wont be going to HHN30, right" I'm like, I know I've been drinking, but it sounded like you said we aren't going to HHN30. I really love her, but this might be a dealbreaker.edit: I might need to go to a meeting or something. Booking a vacation 14 months in advance?
That's just smart, dear - planning, planning, planning. And I am appalled that anyone would say "we are not going to HHN30". The simplest reply is "Maybe YOU aren't going.. but I sure as hell am."
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5 hours ago, PeoriaBJJ said:
We always get the fast pass. The ONLY time Ive ever waited more than 20 minutes for a house was when they had to stop the line bc of an accident of something. And in 10 years I can only think of that happening twice. Krampus, but they gave us a super secret password to come back and go to the fast pass line bc they had already scanned it.... the other time was last year when the power went out. We were in line for The Hive. We were shit out of luck for that. If you want to be sure to see all houses in one night. Get the fast pass. Can you hit 10 houses in one night w/o one? Possibly, but highly doubtful. I think the star would have to align for you for that to happen. Its 10 houses and its gonna be PACKED.
Have to agree with this. There isn't a chance in hell I'd go to HHN without express. I don't travel to an event to wait in line.. and some of those lines are HORRIFIC. Plus, I'm too old for that crap. I've seen some express lines get unusually long, but it it appears to happen in spurts. If the express line is long, we go find another house and come back.
Our strategy is to save our express until things get really busy and then use them. We attempt to go through each house 2x per night - or, least, our top 5 houses 2x per night. Our limit to wait in a regular line is 35 minutes - if we can get into a house in 35 or less, we do it without express. Then, we go back later and see it again with. We've been pretty successful doing this because we've learned crowd flow based on the time of the night, the time of the shows and what day it is. Of course, with only one show this year, that should be a challenge.
I guess it all comes down to what you can tolerate. I would never tolerate standing in line for 90 or 120 minutes - even if Jesus Christ himself was waiting at the other end.
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Speaking of A&D - today is David Hughes' birthday. Let us all celebrate.
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So great to catch up on all the news and commentary. I was in the UK for two weeks on vacation, and when I got back to work, I was buried for a week. I missed a lot, apparently.
Btw, let me say right now how grateful I am for this forum. I've meet such great people because of Nightmares, and I continue to do so. This is more than just a place to speculate, bitch and fangirl/fanboy.. it's a place to make friends. @Drummanmatt - looking forward to meeting up with you at HHN. Thanks for spending some time with us - we really enjoyed meeting you.
My last comment before leaving was that I hoped Chucky wasn't actually coming. Well, he is. Glad some of you are happy. I will spend my time elsewhere. Dumb little shit.
I am intrigued about the Poltergeist spec.. I wasn't sure at first how that could be a house.. but the more I thought about it, the more I could see it happening. It was one of my fave movies growing up, so it would be cool to see this at HHN along with Killer Klowns! HAHAHAH!! Omg, that is priceless. It's such a dumbass movie, but still a classic.
@mystiquephreeq your entire puzzle solving with the names Emily and Alice gave me goosebumps. I don't agree with @WESKER69 that because some of these things were posted on FB for the oblivious GP that they mean nothing. I think you're on to something with all this. I firmly believe that A&D was given some leeway again to do their thing, and they ran with it. I think they planted all kinds of Easter eggs for nerds like us - many of which "management" or "marketing" may not even realize. So, screw them (management & marketing). A&D should be driving this train ALL THE TIME. Soon enough, maybe someone will realize it.
@Legacy - are you telling us we get nothing this week? Is it going to be another 10 days before we get anything? I hate this waiting part.. though I can't bitch too much since all the postcards were released on my birthday. Thanks A&D. Oh, and thanks to whoever first mentioned that Kimberly Duncan was the chick from Terminator. I knew when I read the name I had heard it.. and I was banging my head trying to place it.. and there it was. You guys always have the answers.
Sorry I haven't actually contributed shit here.. just wanted to say hi and let you all know how much I appreciate you. Super!
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Just catching up, and I see people talking about Chucky again. What the hell? Is this solid rumor? I friggin HATE Chucky - not because I"m afraid of him but because I think it's excruciatingly STUPID. Wasn't the dumb little bastard mixed in a scarezone in the last couple of years (sorry, SZs blend in my head sometimes as to the year). Please no Chucky.
Also, I could seriously do without another Blumhouse "mashup". I thought last year's was TERRIBLE - so did everyone who attended with me. We went through three times (because you can't judge based on a single visit or even two). We hated it equally as bad every time.
Aside from that - everything else that has been announced thrills me to no end.
Any idea on announcement timelines from here?
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1 hour ago, mystiquephreeq said:
It was filmed in cooperation with Carey, OH police and is A Music Box Pictures production and release.
Amazon Cannibals was produced by Mike Aiello and Patrick Braillard.
Beast Baby stars Albert Caine and is A Music Box Pictures release.
All three posters mention Jack. There's probably more. I'm just not connecting it all yet.
Here's one you'd all never get:
"Amazon Cannibals from Planet Hell starring Nancy Stebler" - Nancy Stebler is TJ Mannarino's secretary.
Also, David Hughes and Nick Collins - both in A&D and both responsible for some of the most badass houses we've seen.. ever.
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21 hours ago, zombieman said:
We are owners at Marriott Waiohai Beach Club, a couple of blocks away from the Grand Hyatt. We stay in a 2BR that is about 1200 Sq Ft, 20 yards from Poipu beach. We have been doing 3 weeks annually for about 8 years; our kids basically grew up there and we see the same people year after year. We always go in July so we can stop by Costco and buy a giant box of fireworks and set them off on the beach. Plus, Universal HHN news is always dead in July, so what else am I gonna do? If you ever want to try the Marriott, let me know. A stay there is about the same price as the Grand Hyatt, but you get so much more room at Waiohai. I'll bring you back a chicken!
I was Googling for fun and found this place. I'm gonna go with my kids and will let you know how it is. Who woulda thought they would have one of these on Kauai?
I know exactly where that Marriott is. I appreciate the offer, but I could never stay anywhere but that Hyatt.. It is.. omg, amazing doesn't even cover it. Plus, we are points and miles whores, so, we actually stay 10 days at that mind-blowing $650/night hotel for FREE on points. Also, we usually go in early July when we do visit because July 2 is my bday. Where i work, we get our birthday off - plus we obv get the 4th off, so I have to take minimal vacation that week (this year it's the UK ). And I knew about the escape room - the last time we were there, they were literally putting the finishing touches on it, and we missed their grand opening by three days. I was pissed. Be sure to tell me how you like it!
5 hours ago, Ueeediot said:I can understand this. If you go back to 25 or 26 where you had Jack and Chance, there is a ton of merch aimed at just the icon. Go to 27 and merch is much more diverse and focused on the houses and the overall event. I do like the idea of an emcee (icon) or the like, but maybe they could find a way to have something like that but not let it be the central focus of the event?
That and hope the event shirt is a bit better this year. Last year's was just boring.I would've killed for a Scarecrow: The Reaping shirt last year. Honestly, I don't know what would be wrong with shirts for originals. That house was the talk of the event last year - they would've raked it in with a shirt for it.
And yes, last year's shirt was a big yawn, but at least they stopped with the dumbass bloody sayings on the front. (I hate marketing)
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On 6/19/2018 at 1:24 PM, zombieman said:
I will be vacationing in Kauai near the shores of Poipu Beach most of July.
Gonna be tough, but I imagine I will survive somehow.
Dude.. I seriously hate you. You literally just listed one of my exact favorite places on Earth! We've been to Kauai four times, and it's the only island we will probably ever visit because we believe it's the best one. Not so commercialized, and it's just beautiful. Also, we stay at the Grand Hyatt in Poipu, and it is, hands down, the most gorgeous place we've ever stayed.
I can't complain though.. we leave for the UK next Wednesday. Plan on meeting up with our HNN brother, @Drummanmatt for a pint or two. Don't forget, Matt!
I'm just hoping to get an announcement (or two) before we go to keep me dancing.
As for 80's music - I am a complete expert.. this is my era for sure.. I was a kid in the mid-70's thru mid-80's. I cannot wait for this!
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42 minutes ago, zombieman said:
Hey, we'll trade you Murdy for Aiello. And we'll throw in our Jaws, because you are missing one. Whaddya say?
And all the black plywood you will ever need! We'll throw that in, too.
You can have Aiello when you pry him from my cold, dead hands
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1 hour ago, zombieman said:
Oh yeah! This will be a TLDR, so if you don't like my stories, move on...
As I mentioned, I live in CA, and didn't even learn about Orlando's HHN until 2003.
Even though the very first HHN was at Hollywood (believe it or not), Hollywood has had many years with no HHN. 1994-1996, 2001-2005.
In that drought from 2001-2005, I would always scan newspapers around September, hoping that I would find HHN returning.
One day in 2003 I see this commercial on cable promoting HHN. Something about a jester with fish hooks in his cheeks, spreading into a forced smile, and a creepy director inviting you.
So I immediately call Universal Hollywood and try to buy a ticket. They have no idea what I'm talking about. So I start scanning what passed as the Internet back then and discovered this was HHN in Orlando! I must have been watching an east-coast feed on satellite TV. Honestly, I had no idea there even was a Universal in Orlando at that time. I went to their website and fell instantly in love. At that time I didn't care if a house was IP or original - I mean, a Jason house? Sure! Sounds like fun. At that time, local haunts often had Freddy or Jason featured (without paying any licensing rights, because back then the studios saw it as free advertising).
Sadly, I couldn't go to HHN 2003 because I had newborn twins.
But then came 2004. I checked the Orlando site in July and saw what looked like boxes of files, and they were all locked, and there was this crazy guy in a straightjacket in a padded room....
Came back a week later, and one of the files was open. It gave a sneak peek at one of the houses for HHN that year. Had audio, letters, photos. So interesting. Every couple of weeks later I came back and another was revealed, teasing more. This was AMAZING, as I'd never seen a haunt teased like that. And more importantly, every house was brand new - was not there in 2003. I was astounded, because EVERY haunt whether local or theme park introduces only a bit of new stuff every year. They repeat haunted houses, milking as much as they can without affecting attendance. 100% new stuff every year was unheard of; it's just too expensive. But here was this place, HHN Orlando, and the houses were totally unique. I discovered The Vault around that time and was even more amazed to learn that HHN Orlando was known for presenting brand new stuff every year. This was not a one-off that 2004 was totally new. Miss a house and it's gone forever. Simply unheard of in the haunt industry.
I made a point of going in 2004 and have not stopped since. But it wasn't just Orlando's new lineup every year that brought me back. These were not generic "clown houses" or "slaughterhouses" or "zombie houses". These has well defined backstories. The detail was incredible., Every character had a purpose. These guys did houses better than anyone else. There were many years where all of the houses were original, with maybe one house based on a movie. Some of the original houses were clearly homages to IP properties (i.e Zombiegeddon was slightly based on "Fido"), but with their own unique characters and story.
Then the IP started up in earnest, and while HHN Orlando still had loads of detail, it was honestly just painting a picture based on freeze frames from a movie. We knew all the characters. We knew what kill scenes to expect. We were disappointed when our favorites were left out. We knew how we would be attacked. We knew what we would see, hear, smell - the whole experience ahead of time. To me, that was just not fun. The designers were handcuffed. They couldn't add a unique kill. They couldn't create a character. They couldn't place a character into a different scene unless it was in the movie. They couldn't create a twist ending. There were very few exceptions to this (Freddy vs Jason allowed them to have two different endings, Cabin in the Woods allowed them to invent some characters, etc).
So for someone who had never seen the full creativity of an original house, something like Scarecrow: the Reaping would just be a house with scarecrows. How scary is that, and why would you go out of your way to visit HHN for the first time over something else? But, hey, they have AHS, and that was one scary TV show! So people go there for AHS or some other IP, but they leave remembering that scary-ass scarecrow house. Or that house with the huge paddle boat at the start. And AHS was maybe OK for them, but would have been better if it included that character they really liked from Coven. I can't tell you how many people talked about Scarecrow in every line I was in last year. My point is that IP can pretty much only set you up for disappointment, because unless it has absolutely everything, something will be missing. An original is a blank canvas. You have a vague idea of the theme, but have no idea what you will experience. THAT has nothing but potential. Biggest complaint about Dark Waters that was heard everywhere? It was too short. That "complaint" is a pure compliment if you were designing that house. People wanted more of it. As a designer you should be so lucky to hear that complaint.
The vets around here love to see A&D doing what they love, and they love doing original content. It clearly shows. And the people clearly love it. I mean, some original characters have become so beloved that they become franchises themselves. Just look at the Body Collectors, Psychoscareapy, and Screamhouse. They've been back multiple times as houses and/or scarezones, each time telling another piece of their story. I still don't understand what's up with Body Collectors, because it's canon created by A&D, yet the makeup is 100% from a group of baddies that appeared on Buffy the Vampire Slayer for one episode ("Hush"). So, are those characters IP? Does Universal have to pay someone for the rights to use those masks? Was the original intent to have a Buffy IP house in 2005, and it morphed into Body Collectors? I'd love to know the story behind that, if anyone knows....
I totally see why new people would come for the IP, and maybe even still want a lot of IP a few years later. But I have to believe those originals must totally take them by surprise and grow on them. I think there are only a few people around here who would prefer IP over originals.
And they are weird, so I shun them
This, this and more THIS! All of it so very, very true.
We didn't know HHN existed until 2004 when my son happened to catch The Art of the Scare on Travel Channel and started screaming for me to come see. We started attending in 2005 and have not missed a year since. Most of my favorite recollections are from original houses.. I mean, there are a few IPs I adored - AWIL and Cabin in the Woods, the first AHS.. but that's not the point. The point is, the biggest memories are from the originals. Not only is it a blank canvas, but they are scarier because of the fact that no one knows what to expect. Also, the detail work they put in is jaw-dropping. Think Gothic. Think Dead Waters. Think Winter's Night. I have such a fondness for all of it. Scarecrow comes in right at the top of my top 10 of all time.
Also, I concur - HHN Hollywood sucks. We've been three different times, and every single time, I think - why did I bother? Can't wait to get back to Orlando. The passion is not there like it is in Orlando. The attention to every detail, the artistry, the love - all missing from the Hollywood version. Orlando has nailed it in every aspect, and I don't see that changing... thank god.
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I'm sick to death of the Purge. It's been in numerous scarezones, in houses, and it has now become the new Walking Dead.. the thing that won't die. While I thought Purge Election Year was the best of them, it's just too many damn movies (followed by too many damn HHN references) for it to be interesting or fresh. I'm over it. There is so much better material we could cover... not to mention, let's let A&D unload their minds on to HHN because that's the REAL good stuff.
No matter what, I'm as excited AF for this year.. bring it on! Less than 93 days to go.
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I am thrilled with all this news today - and my FFP w/ Express passes have been purchased... so, for me, it's now official (even thought I've had my airline tix for two months already for all four weekends). I love that it's an 80's year officially.. that's my era! WOO HOO!
I am HOPING they have some of the Scarecrow stuff in the Harvest. Scarecrow was one of my top 5 houses of all time! A little taste of it in a zone this year would NOT piss me off.
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Halloween Horror Nights 28 Speculation
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Since they added the Wednesday before this year's Microsoft event, maybe Microsoft can take the damn Wednesday next year instead, and give those of us who travel for the long weekend a shot at a Thurs - Sat uninterrupted run. This year, I had to take the following Monday off of work, so I could attend Sunday since Thursday was off the table. Annoying when one only has so many vacation days in a year. Although.. at the beginning of the year, my vacation days are assigned for HHN first.