Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 If this is WISHFUL thinking, my wish of course would be that HHN does what they have proven they do best and do all original themes. I mean, seriously, do we really need a Jeepers Creepers house just so someone can see a flying scareactor? There's NO other way to present that than in a house based on a fricking 11 year old movie? Or Alien - seriously? What a monumental waste of budget on props that will never be able to be used anywhere else. If that's a reason to have movie based houses, then I demand a Jaws house because I want to see a shark being blown up. That scene really scared me when I was 8, and dammit, I need to walk through a house and see that exact scene I've seen a dozen times before in order to satisfy me. That's how I see you guys, wetting your pants over the thought of another five houses based on movies and TV shows... La Llorona was easily one of the best Hollywood houses ever, and was derived from what was easily one of the worst scarezones ever. So, I would hope to see some other former scarezone become a full-fledged original house in 2013. And the first one who suggests Pigz gets flamed. Personally, I think Murdy could do a lot with Toyz as a house - imagining a Willy Wokna type toy factory gone wrong. As much as I have disliked clown houses (with Knotts relentless overuse), I do like the original characters created for Klownz, and presenting it as a house would appeal to most customers. I see the Ringmaster out front interacting with the queue. And I believe there is even a place for the Flasher in a Klownz house. Even the lesser scarezones like Witchez or Lunaticz could be great houses, because of the endless ways to create an original backstory. So what do you think about another Scarezone-turned-house for 2013? Insult us and then propose your idea for a maze...lovely haha But in all seriousness I'm all for a scare zone maze. Pretty much any scare zone that's been done could be an original maze. I'd live to see a reapers or Toyz maze. Hell, even some of the terror tram areas could be reworked into a maze theme. On movie properties, countless members have already said why they enjoy ip mazes...there's really no point to explaining anymore...guess we all have to agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Okay, I'm gonna put it down in the most simple way I can freakin' imagine... Would you rather watch the porno or be in there participating?! And that's how I feel about IP properties at Horror Nights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avila Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Personally I love the ip mazes Think about it every other haunt is all original, so HHNH is the only haunt that truelly brings movies to life which is why it became so popular and amazing sure an original maze here and there are nice but personally I'd say keep the big name ip's coming!! And as for toyz scarezone maze, it would all fit in with a Chucky maze next year if they decide to bring him back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Okay, I'm gonna put it down in the most simple way I can freakin' imagine... Would you rather watch the porno or be in there participating?! And that's how I feel about IP properties at Horror Nights. Mmnmmmkay....hahaha XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevler Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Okay, I'm gonna put it down in the most simple way I can freakin' imagine... Would you rather watch the porno or be in there participating?! And that's how I feel about IP properties at Horror Nights. Thats not really a fair comparison. Would you rather watch a porn on tv or visit the set during a shoot. That works. If you want to participate in the porno, go to Delusion. You have one day left, DTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Not necessarily Trev, because a good half of the time, you are the one being attacked while in the maze! So therefore, you are a participant. And I also took into consideration with my metaphor that since the mazes aren't being filmed, but the conception of the IPs were, it'd be like participating in a real life version of your favorite porno. IIIIII also took into consideration that since many pornos are generally the same (remember, pornos are the IP here lol), it's the factors that make it your favorite one that would make you want to be one of the participants, such as the scenario, or the girl/guy (or in a lucky case, PLURAL), the setting, their costume, etc. EVEN THOUGH it all comes to the same result! AND I ALSOOOOOOO took into consideration that if you rather participate in an ORIGINAL work of art, you're not getting to work with your favorite porn actor or actress, which MIGHT make living that situation not as ideal as living your favorite (although, you may be lucky, and end up with someone of high quality instead of any ol' hag off the street - which is a similar risk when going through an original maze - but don't mistake this idea as saying all IP mazes are good, the best or etc., since this is towards your favorite IP and if your favorite IP wasn't represented correctly, it's like saying not all of the elements of that porno were put in place for you to enjoy them as much). AND ALSOOOOOOO unlike the reality of the IP or the porno, the recreation situation we speak of is in a safe environment which means you won't come out chopped up in a hundred pieces or in the porno situation, possibly pregnant or with an STD. SO THEREFOREEEEE, I've concluded that living the porn situation is much like experiencing an IP maze, as you are a participant in a situation you've always wanted to experience, see, or be a part of -- and that ain't a bad thing, in MY eyes. Ofcourse we can differ on all these qualities, and there can be many counter arguments, but let's just leave it there! (I DO realize this is a very weird, flawed and mind bending metaphor, analogy, etc..) As for no survey this year, I'm a bit bummed about that because that was always a fun time to throw our thoughts out on how we felt about it in which we KNEW they'd be reading it. Edited December 8, 2012 by DTH316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindhousehero13 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 I tweeted him Cabin In The Woods and WD season 3 as long as we get those two Im happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Ooooh, I forgot about Cabin in the Woods for a quick moment! Not sure of our chances of that happening though since they seem to have everything already rather set. If everything is set this early, my guess is WD Season 3 is a lock, as well as Alice Cooper finishing the trilogy, and whatever idea they have for the House of Horrors is already planned. Which leaves the other 3 properties or original ideas they've been wanting to do, which isn't a lot to be chasing this early. And my guess is they're probably putting all their resources into making the Exorcist happen, reconciling with Sony for Evil Dead, and whatever other original idea they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindhousehero13 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 it still populer and fairly recent Im sure it can but that being said if it does not come this year, I doubt we will ever see it, espeacialy since it realy does not lend itself to a sequal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Speaking of the exorcist, what do you guys think John's secret concept is for it? I said this a while back somewhere in the spec thread...I think they'd probably pull a psycho and use the possessed priest's dead body as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Bates Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 There is a concept from 1992 that HHN Orlando use when they turn there normal attractions into halloween horror night rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) There is a concept from 1992 that HHN Orlando use when they turn there normal attractions into halloween horror night rides. Only two rides were actually affected. Those being Kongfrontation and JAWS. The rest just got name changes for the attraction. Nowadays, Simpsons was supposed to get a Treehouse of Horror version for HHN and Halloween, but FOX was stopping it from happening. Now that Orlando is getting Springfield we may get the "Halloween version." If Orlando gets it, Hollywood should too. Wesker knows more about it than I do. Edited December 8, 2012 by Dr. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Bates Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 ET and Back to the Future the ride were given Halloween treatment too. Anyway Revenge of the Mummy in Hollywood could be change into a Halloween ride based off Aliens set in either the ship or on there home planet and the riders are being evacuated but it gets worse when Xenomorphs starts to attack the riders even the facehuggers with water effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 ^wwhhhhaaaaa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 "Whaaaaaaa?" is my same reaction as well, at the same time also being "BADASS." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 ET and Back to the Future the ride were given Halloween treatment too. Anyway Revenge of the Mummy in Hollywood could be change into a Halloween ride based off Aliens set in either the ship or on there home planet and the riders are being evacuated but it gets worse when Xenomorphs starts to attack the riders even the facehuggers with water effects. While that would be completely badass, it's also pretty impractical and would never happen... The cost of converting it would be astronomical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I guess it would be cool, but it's really not needed since the mummy is already somewhat horror themed and it would be a colossal waste. They really need to work on JP in the Dark...its getting kind of stale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddlers Son Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 ^ really? I think JP In The Dark to me will never get old. Idk I just love the atmosphere lighting and of course Guns N Roses at the end before the drop just takes my excitement to the roof! But I do have to agree they do need to put scare actors in there! But if not for whatever reason at least some props you know? Couple of mangled bodies around, maybe some chemical stuff or a chemical spill would be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Idk, I feel like welcome to the jungle takes away the already climatic creepy sound effects present in the daytime ride, but I guess it's kind of tradition now. Scare actors would be cool bu I doubt it will ever happen.deffinatly mor decor though. If they can't put scareactors they can at least add scareactors like props or mannequins. Quick question, since murdy seems to be against Dino hybrids, if we ever got scareactors on the ride, what do you think they would be? You know...besides dismembered scientist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. D Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Idk, I feel like welcome to the jungle takes away the already climatic creepy sound effects present in the daytime ride Guns N Roses ruins everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Idk, I feel like welcome to the jungle takes away the already climatic creepy sound effects present in the daytime ride, but I guess it's kind of tradition now. Scare actors would be cool bu I doubt it will ever happen.deffinatly mor decor though. If they can't put scareactors they can at least add scareactors like props or mannequins. Quick question, since murdy seems to be against Dino hybrids, if we ever got scareactors on the ride, what do you think they would be? You know...besides dismembered scientist They will never have live actors in the Jurassic Park ride... That's an OSHA complaint just waiting to happen. Edited December 8, 2012 by Stitch_101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindhousehero13 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 ^ really? I think JP In The Dark to me will never get old. Idk I just love the atmosphere lighting and of course Guns N Roses at the end before the drop just takes my excitement to the roof! But I do have to agree they do need to put scare actors in there! But if not for whatever reason at least some props you know? Couple of mangled bodies around, maybe some chemical stuff or a chemical spill would be cool! Guns N Roses ruins everything. they do add fog more Raptors and special lighting the guns n roses is kinda out of place the first year they put it i was kinda a cool lulz moment but now its just whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieman Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 ET and Back to the Future the ride were given Halloween treatment too. In what alternate reality did you experience this? They will never have live actors in the Jurassic Park ride... That's an OSHA complaint just waiting to happen. Unfortunately, OSHA is the reason why they haven't done this. They are essentially the Occupational Scareactor Health Administration. Insult us and then propose your idea for a maze...lovely haha But in all seriousness I'm all for a scare zone maze. Pretty much any scare zone that's been done could be an original maze. I'd live to see a reapers or Toyz maze. Hell, even some of the terror tram areas could be reworked into a maze theme. On movie properties, countless members have already said why they enjoy ip mazes...there's really no point to explaining anymore...guess we all have to agree to disagree. Insulting was not my intent; I read only a few posts, saw the one about Jeepers Creepers, rolled my eyes, and posted. The fact is, I see your guys wet your pants every year, happily guessing which IP will be presented this year, and can't help but find it humorous. The rest of the industry is evolving around you, becoming more interactive and more elaborate (Delusion, Sleep No More, Screamhouse, HHN Orlando's original houses), and you guys settle for movie set houses handcuffed by IP contracts. I cannot blame you one single bit. If you got to see some of the better venues, you would be demanding more from HHN Hollywood than digging up TCM for a third time and calling it new. And countless others have agreed with me that they would prefer original content from HHN. Sadly, I have yet to see any HHN Hollywood survey offer us any multiple choice question asking if we want original content; instead, it's "which of these 50 movies do you want to see us make into a house" Okay, I'm gonna put it down in the most simple way I can freakin' imagine... Would you rather watch the porno or be in there participating?! And that's how I feel about IP properties at Horror Nights. Okay - I am NEVER going to touch anything in the houses after you've been through. And how ironic you even give that analogy (might not be the best word..) When I took the backstage tour in Orlando, one of the houses we went through had an empty condom wrapper and half vial of pot on the floor. I kid you not. Throw in some crusty towels and you got yourself a porno set. More ironically, this was not in an IP house. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I agree with you there. I got extremely pissed when they announced TCM and said it was "new" because it was the first movie. It's kind of like those "new" left and right snickers when it's the same damn candy. I'd love to be able to speculate and anticipate original houses, but even our original houses have become predictable "oh boy Alice cooper and La Lloroba again" and as said before, hhn Hollywood is hellbent on creating ip houses. I also think hhn's is afraid to come out of their comfort zone. Some of the oldest effects in the book aren't in the mazes. It's just boohole, strobe, destraction, repeat. I'd really like them to use a variety of effects instead of the same ones over and over again. I'd just really like a balance, to be honest. Well represented Ip's and amazing original houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) @ Zombieman I can understand some of what your saying, but can't help but see that there are things you aren't taking into account. Firstly, it's very ignorant you to assume that any of us have never been to any other haunted venue. Yes we are HHNH fans, and that's what we do here is talk about HHNH, but that doesn't mean none of us have been to any other haunted venues. I myself attended HHNO 6 years straight before transferring to Cali... But aside from that, I have been to some of the highest rated haunts in the world including Netherworld, The Darkness, The 13th Gate, Dead Acres Haunted Hoochie, and more. And I know from discussions with others here on the site that they have gone to haunts like Delusions, Blumhouse, HHNO as well as others others. So please, don't act like we are all a bunch of stupid, blind HHNH fans who know nothing else and hold it as sacred. It's an event we love, despite it's weaknesses, and there is nothing wrong with us discussing what we hope to see in the future. Secondly, and I don't know how many times this has to be stated, IP houses are Universal Hollywood's market. There are a shit ton of haunted house options in the LA area for people to go to, everything from The Haunted Hayride, Queen Mary, Delusions, Blackout, Knotts Scary Farm, and sooooo many more. But what makes HHNH so popular in the area are the IP houses. If people want a more interactive experience, they have the option of going to Delusions. If they want a more extreme haunt, Blackout... If they want to experience popular horror movies, they go to HHNH. And this is a major difference of HHNH to HHNO... HHNH has a niche in IP mazes that is working for them, and expanding the attendance, in an area where they are competing with haunts that offer SO many other options for guests to attend. Orlando is very different, and aside from HHNO, there are no other major competing haunts in the area anymore. And my last little bit is your take on the industry "evolving." Yes the industry is evolving. Delusions is incredible an terrifying... And is a concept that would never work at HHNH (unless made to be an up charge maze.) HHNH has the problem that it has to work, scary the customers and give them what they want, but at the same time be constantly moving to accommodate thousands upon thousands of people they get nightly. Is it for the best? That's for each person to decide, but it's the way things have to be done to insure there isn't complete gridlock in the park. Now yes, there are things they can evolve on, like there scare tactics, brings in more shows, better Scarezones... But I think anyone who has been attending HHNH for a long time can tell you it has evolved. Maybe not in the way you think it should, but evolved non the less. Edited December 11, 2012 by Stitch_101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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