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Say what? How stupid do you have to be? As badly as I and everyone else want this year to happen, I'll feel really bad for you if you're unable to go.

HoHH IS Netflix.

24A and B instead of 21 and 25. That map projects Billie for MIB tent.

Does that mean 31 will go back to Islands?

To be fair, I hadn't really come across a spec map so far that was much if any better. I too would have liked one more original, but if all the originals are strong (like last year for instance) I'm willing to be quite generous. And one of those IPs will have an original story.

I guess so. But for most it's been there done that unfortunately. And the rights to the ones that haven't been used are supposedly a mess.

Fair. I can't really argue with you if you're specifically looking for horror MOVIES. But calling HoHH not horror is looking at horror, even "straight" horror with way too small a scope. I find it WAY scarier than Freddy and Jason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA5hMQ1-7DI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz6KOsePEHs&t=325s And I go to HHN for originals anyway. I definitely agree that there's certainly been the introduction of more comedy and/or family IPs since 28. But part of that is because there's more houses now--granted I don't want a higher number. I mean, 18--the gold standard of the event's history--had six "straight" originals, one comedy original and one IP that on one hand was R-rated but definitely not horror.

Oh, so Haunting of Hill House isn't horror? Terra Cruentes? Dungeon of Terror? Legendary Truth? UCM Brides? (Remember, UCM houses are NEVER book reports of the original movies) Deadtime Stories? My god people, that's SIX horror houses. Plus a house involving Satanism. Same number as 18. I understand feeling bad in general right now but keep it in perspective! I think the lineup could be better, but it could be SO SO SO SO SO MUCH worse. Honestly, the spec map earlier was worse. I can't tell you how bad some of the wishlists on teh Facebook page were. People wanting the same goddamn things over and over again--the 2328773th bloody year of Jack and Chance and Freddy and Jason, for example. /rant

We have two different insiders saying two kinda sorta different things. Do we really want a rehash of 25? I sure don't. We've had Jack enough darn times, and I find Chance to be extremely annoying. I can take some experimenting.

With happiness or sadness? It’s very clearly HoHH.

There are some houses that are best not getting sequels. But Nightingales ain't one--I thought finding a conflict that wasn't a war was pretty genius. Yes I wish they kept the old masks (only thing keeping it from being my FOAT) though I have a hunch as to why they didn't. Scarecrow is the most obvious house to get a sequel this year, but I'm not quite sure how to continue the story in a satisfying way.

I wish they had gone with photography again...imagine pictures of a Soviet biowarfare attack in West Germany that zombifies the population, would have fit the '80s perfectly. So then a Catacombs sequel this year wouldn't feel redundant. But I digress. So Soundstage 22 and Shrek are both going bye-bye? Interesting. Lends credence to CLB. Assuming there's an anniversary house, I think it will go in one of the parade buildings if the soundstage configuration is accurate.

The entire movie having a tilted camera angle that makes you bend your neck to see properly.

See, if I were the one making these clues in the same way Legacy has, my clue for HoHH would've had something to do with Battlefield Earth. Like if you get it.

Add another reason I don't want 11 houses. If they have any construction delays, they really don't need another house.

They generally allow 1-2 originals in a soundstage. I guess they could do an IP zone in NY but who knows what. A TC house-zone combo while having the things marketing wants is perfectly doable. I am NOT suggesting TC be the marketing focus, especially when it wasn't even the marketing focus of 15. @Legacy are you still hearing 3/20 for first announcement?

Soundstage house with entrance in NY. Very simple.

Gimme a complementary scarezone with this playing, fire, fog, strippers and chainsaws! \m/

To be fair, the attendance was supposedly lower this year. At least it felt like it for the most part. Obviously there will continue to be stuff to bring in newcomers, but all I ask is that we have plenty to balance it out as well.

This COULD be the year we finally get more originals than IPs, just by nature of the possibility of 11 houses. Anyways, here's my very rough, shot in the dark, and still too early prediction for the lineup: Beetlejuice (Legacy's clue and what he said recently) Revenge of Chucky (Again, Legacy's clue as well as ModDesigner's comments--if not Scarecrow, THIS would be a perfect opportunity for an open floor house--set it in a toy store, put it in SS25, lay the path via shelves) Stranger Things (for budget and to promote S4...believe me, ugh...maybe Sabrina instead, though I'm not sure if that would be much better; I just can't see them not using any Netflix properties). Creepshow (Ifrit + fairly cheap since Hollywood did it) "UCM: Bride" (Once again, Legacy's clue...and c'mon, it's the 30th, you really think they'd do nothing with the Monsters?) Jack's Dungeon of Terror (Legacy's clue; sticking with my idea of going through the carnival dark ride he was found in, to fit with the whole "back in his box" thing; heck you could work LT in there if that rumor is correct) Scarecrow sequel or repeat (The promo image; aside from cornfield which would be less likely if they did something in the vain of my Chucky idea, I remember someone pitching the idea of a Seeds of Extinction crossover) Terra Cruentes: Season of the Queen (Legacy saying that it's about on the same level of likelihood as Billie)

Did they make a deal with the devil in 2011? Seems like every house sans Thing was a home run. Guess Lady Luck was on their side, no?

I hate to be pedantic, but what was Patrick’s first year? But can we please not have this discussion for the 19203042048545453984209482nd time?

ESPECIALLY if they increase the house count I don't see all IPs happening LOL. But yeah something like this would do the trick.

I’d argue all but three were for horror fans--all of those three being in soundstages (yes I consider Klownz to be for horror fans, very Bloodengutz-y). It didn't help that those were the ones featured on the marketing, of course. That said, it's a bit more acceptable for 29 to have a relatively high amount of non-horror. Because 29 wasn't the year that matters. That's this year. Oh, and is IU down right now?

Nah. Not til 3/28. Driving me INSANE. But at the same time it gives a feeling of greater satisfaction when they're finally announced.