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7 hours ago, Brandon_Voorhees said:
LFB = Lara Flynn Boyle; MIB II house confirmed!
Or maybe L. Frank Baum.
L F B does come from Lyman Frank Baum.
But L F B became something else.
3 hours ago, faceleg said:Could it be a battle between the witch and the queen? Or they join forces somehow? I JUST WANNA KNOW lol
The Evil Queen was in ST3. She played a very specific role in that house's story.
Snow White is out of the way, now. She led you to the Evil Queen. Scribes and evil ruler must be combined with the story in ST3.
Oz assumptions were made for a reason, and L F B is why those assumptions were made.
If Once Upon a Time taught us anything, one "big bad" at a time is the best options for a story.
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One more clue:
This one goes along with evil ruler.
L F B
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Just now, Legacy said:
Really though... People need to stop thinking so celestially about Meteor.
Agreed.
Also, KKfOS would be a closer connect to Interstelar.
21 minutes ago, Midnight Detective said:http://halloweenhorrornights.wikia.com/wiki/Halloween_Horror_Nights:_Reflections_of_Fear
^ for anyone who wants to have a look, theres so many houses that match this year. You weren't kidding @mystiquephreeq.
Yep. Now I'm thinking Snow might be what's Stone Cold
I missed this.
Snow White leads you on to the right track.
My clues:
ST3 holds answers
evil ruler, Snow White, and scribes will lead you to the path
Oz assumptions were made for a reason
Hopefully, that helps.
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15 minutes ago, OhHaiInternet95 said:
No match for BC, obviously.
Themetically? Are you sure?
BC2 was a hodgepodge of slashers. Sweeney Todd and Jack the Ripper primarily.
Halloween and HoB fill the slasher role.
Then there's the zones:
AiW, PoW, and FT all link to the ST franchise. PoW should be definitely represented.
Doomsday was cannibals and SSin (needed an abreviation that wasn't SS) will have cannibals.
Creatures involved a meteor crashing to earth.
Poltergeist is a traditional ghost story, and RoF was aiming for that. There's, even, comparisons to be made between Mary's mirrors and TVs.
While tropes and themes are easy to spot when really looking, there's much to compare between 18 and 28.
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7 minutes ago, Midnight Detective said:
Edit- for the Stone Cold Steve gif, if you watch the full scene, he's mirroring what he just said. Maybe its tied into Bloody Mary?
There's plenty of mirroring of 18 going on in this year's event. It's downright frustrating that there is absolutely no hints of an icon.
Look at the rumored house list, then play match the theme to 18's houses and zones.
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3 minutes ago, Midnight Detective said:
I've been assuming Scary Tales and have been trying to work the clues.
I think the resuming of the stabbing refers to the scribes sacrificing more people.
Not sure on Stone Cold Steve. Maybe it's to bring a statue to life or an Ice Queen?
I think the 3rd clue points to the purpose of the house. The sacrifices are bring to life a character or characters that is some form of evil ruler.
It's been a bit since I've reviewed his clues.
The scribes and an evil ruler are on the right track, though.
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2 hours ago, tsabs22 said:
So my guess on the final two originals are “Seeds of Extinction” and “Scary Tales”
The possibility has always existed for "Oz" to carry the ST franchise name.
I've been adamant about using StrTh instead of ST for awhile now.
A review of ST3 may help figure things out.
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8 hours ago, Midnight Detective said:
@mystiquephreeq Would you say pickle could be connected to roots?
Also does your theory of each original connecting to a Legion of Horror still stand?
Maybe?
Yes, it does. Let me update:
Announced Originals:
Slaughter Sinema - Morphan
DE2 - Kerezan
Carnival Graveyard - Maschorian
Rumored/Speculated Originals:
Meteor: Strengoit (This one is theory. Need more info)
Poison: Cerebin
Scarezones:
Vamp '85 - Strengoit
The Harvest - Baccanoid
Twisted Traditions - Morphan (possibly Cerebin)
Killer Klowns - Cerebin
Chucky - Morphan
Announced IPs:
TrT - Morphan
Stranger Things - Cerebin
Rumored/Speculated IPs:
Poltergeist - Kerezan
Halloween - Kerezan
HoB 2.0 - Maschorian
Edit: I'm going on more limited info than @Legacy
I haven't seen as much.
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12 minutes ago, Legacy said:
People keep assuming it's Oz though...
Assumptions made...always.
I suppose one should temper their Oz hopes while leaning towards Oz. Which probably makes no sense, but trying to make sense is beyond my capabilities at the moment.
Also, since you decided to confirm...
I stated previously that sometimes I can still speculate and still be right. Those who followed the guess the codename game may understand what I meant now.
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44 minutes ago, Pyconn said:
The original houses this year have me concerned. I have never been a fan of “funny houses” (excluding ash vs evil dead). So I am really not that excited about slaughter sinema. Cult of the beast baby and Amazon canibals from planet hell sounds wayyy to cheesey.
Carnival Graveyard seems very promising
I really really hope that Oz is not a house. I never liked Houses/scarezones based on fairytales (Asylume in wonderland scary-tales etc.) sooo I hope the map is wrong but so far it’s been 100% accurate to date.
I know it’s hard to follow up such an awesome year for original houses like last year was... anyway just my two cents.
-Pyconn
"Cheese" has an important place in horror history. Over the top gore bordering on the ridiculous were genre changers. Schlock horror can surprise with scares and gave rise to the "torture porn" that is so well loved today.
Fairytales are the original horror stories. The "happily ever after" that Disney created does not exist in the original stories. Baum's Oz has always contained imagery that is downright terrifying.
Someone mentioned Return to Oz and wonder if some of the imagery could be seen in an Oz style house, the answer is yes. While direct copies from the film couldn't be seen, the characters themselves could be used. The Wheelers, Tik Tok, Mombi, Princess Langwidere, Tip... The steampunk stylings needed for The Wheelers has already had groundwork lain. PoW was very steampunk. A hall of screaming heads for Princess Langwidere. Those thirty heads weren't a Disney invention. They are Baum's. There were 14 Oz novels by Baum. There's plenty of source material to mine.
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44 minutes ago, hunnylvr said:
Well this was unexpected... and it looks AWESOME (side note: how do i just get the tweet to show up in my post instead of just the URL? Sorry.. not savvy with this kind of stuff)
Fixed it for you. I just copy the link and paste it. I don't know why it works for me.
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On 7/22/2018 at 10:53 AM, TheRobcat said:
I think we are far enough along with speculation that I can say it is a similar concept to the Lonesome Death Of Jordy Verrill from Creepshow. That was originally based on a Lovecraft story about a meteorite crashing to earth and bringing strange, dangerous alien vegetation with it. I think that is the gist, but I know no details other than maybe a crashed plane set piece. I think that's been mentioned.
So, life has made it difficult to post and follow things. Not going into detail, but I've had to focus on family.
The above quote goes back to my Rainbow clue.
Rainbow is a compound word, and the clue was a compound itself. Many paths to the same basic answer, since there are many potential inspirations for the house.
Reading Rainbow = Geordie = Jordy
The Lonesome Death of Jordy Verrill is based on Stephen King's short story The Weeds. The Weeds was inspired by Lovecraft's The Colour Out of Space.
One could say that rainbows are a compound of colors.
There's another potential reference which is, obviously, heavily inspired by The Colour Out of Space and that is Annihilation.
*Random Trivia (which I can't remember if I posted or not):
Stephen King has only ever played a titular role in one of his screen adaptations. He played Jordy Verrill.
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Well, we can make an educated guess about when an announcement is likely to occur:
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10 hours ago, Legacy said:
EDIT - By your logic, Winter's Night should have been popular because it had a Weeping Angel...
While Winter's Night didn't hold the casual fans as much as the Collectors, the Weeping Angel was indeed a big part of the initial hype for the house. They posted the angel's image on FB....Don't blink!! was repeated ad naseaum in the comments.
3 hours ago, Legacy said:Not posted.
So... there's a sort of HHN fandom "dark web." It's small, and consists of one-on-one conversations through a bunch of various sites and applications. It's how people with sources validate information before going "public."
A schedule is floating around there but only in a VERY small circle...
^This is accurate
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Thoughts on the images in the postcards:
In 2013, a series of emails were sent out regarding the history of LegendaryTruth. Each email contained images. Some of the images we titled, some were not. Part of the game that year was determining what the untitled images were.
Of the 14 postcards, only 5 are titled. Three are locations. Two of those locations will likely make appearances in the house. The other two titled images are works of art. Guernica is not in France and was not in France in 1982 (Thank you for the info Dr. Jimmy). The Thinker is in 28 countries.
Guernica was commissioned In 1937 by the Spanish Republican government for the Exposition Internationale des Arts et Techniques dans la Vie Moderne. The work is a response to the bombing of Guernica. The painting shows the suffering caused by violence and chaos. This painting is not a scene, but what will be seen.
The Thinker is a part of a larger commission. The original cast is currently housed at Musee Rodin which was Hôtel Biron. The Thinker was a part of The Gates of Hell. The Gates of Hell are depicted in postcard 11.
Postcard 10 shows the July Column (Colonne de Julliet) topped by the Spirit of Freedom (Génie de la Liberté) and is in the Place de la Bastille.
Still working on the other images to figure out what they are.
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2 hours ago, Ueeediot said:
Ok, now we are reaching. In your above post you referenced Emily as having strong maternal instincts, but now she is too emotional to think of her son? Not a chance. There is not a single chance in the world that I would go through emotional turmoil of that level and NOT think of my infant son/daughter and their well being. There is also zero possibility that Mom would allow the birthday to go by without even a mention regardless of circumstance. That's just not how women roll.
Charlie is not Emily or Greg's son.
One option that has been left out is that Charlie is Greg's son. But, again, I find this highly unlikely. Emily would have passed a message of inquiry about the boy.
Women do not give their out of wedlock children their Father's last names. They give them their own, most often.
It is also likely that Kim is divorced, separated, widowed, or that Emily just calls Kim by the name she has know for Kim all her life. I know I do this for both of my sisters. They have married names but I can barely put the name with the person because that's just not how I know them.Actually, women do give their out-of-wedlock children the father's surname if they know it. Happens all the time.
And yes, strong emotions can make people act strangely and completely illogically. Of course, you missed where I conceded that other connections such as (Aunt Em) make your scenario more likely.
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8 hours ago, Ueeediot said:
It doesnt make sense that at no time during the correspondence we see, which runs over the course of a month, that she wouldnt ask about her 2 year old son, especially since his birthday passes during this time. Another clue is that she doesnt even send a card on his birthday. Also once Greg dies and once things are obviously out of hand she still doesnt ask. To me, at least, it makes far more sense that Charlie is Kim's son.
Also, is Magnus from Australia any type of imoortant player in this or just a happenstance character?Not exactly,
On Oct 3 She says: Tourist-y no? (meaning the post cards) Greg thought it was cheesy too but c'est la vie! We love you and wish you were here!!P.S. grabbed a stack of these stupid post-cards so I'll write when I can.
This is definitely the first correspondence. Which is why Emily is explaining to Kim that she got the cards and to expect more.Emily never actually answers or responds to anything from Kim or otherwise. It is completely Emily speaking and we cannot even tell if Kim is receiving the cards.
Strong emotions do strange things to people.
The initial euphoria of a honeymoon in Paris while knowing your child is safe with your sibling could cause a person to not ask about a child. Grief could do the same.
Kim and Charlie do not share a surname. There's only a few options for that.
- Charlie is illegitimate. He was born out of wedlock, and was given his father's name. (Can apply to Kim or Emily).
- Charlie's father has died. Remarriage as occurred (can apply to Kim or Emily)
- Charlie's parents divorced. Remarriage (Kim). Reverted to maiden name (Kim or Emily). We know Emily has married, but we don't know her new surname.
- Charlie's parents are married. Mother didn't take father's surname. (Can apply to Kim or Emily). This is the least historically likely scenario. While women were not taking the man's surname in the 80s, it was far less common than it is now.
And that's another interesting tidbit. Why isn't Emily supplying us with her brand new surname. She gives us her middle name and nicknames (more on those later), but never signs with her brand new married name. While legal documents take time to change, a good number of women begin signing correspondence with their married names right after the wedding. Even when that correspondence is to family members.
Magnus is an interesting addition. Australian with a Scandinavian name. The name may merely be an Easter egg for some of us. Magnus was a very popular Viking name. Rick Spencer wrote a book - Icebound: The Viking Cipher. A&D knows some of us love etymology and we wouldn't be able to resist researching Magnus. It means great in Latin, btw.
Speaking of etymology and history of names:
Emily Alice is an interesting choice. Emily is shortened to Em in the postcards. If we go with Emily being the aunt, then she is Aunt Em. Emily is the real name of Aunt Em in the Oz books.
And Alice as the other name. Of course, Alice makes one think of Alice in Wonderland.
That makes two names linked to stories used in Scary Tales, both of which had their own scarezones in 2008. There's rumors of an Oz house for this year.
And the other link that I can't ignore:
Alice didn't just go to Wonderland through a rabbit hole. Alice went Through the Looking Glass as well.
Easter eggs for my favorite icon? Nods of remembrance for those of us who obsess?
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1 hour ago, WannabeIcon said:
I take Charlie as Emily's son...No?? I feel like the get to Grandpa's is the motherly instinct telling them to get somewhere safe if the US has this outbreak coming too??
I was thinking the same thing. It's one of those things that could be either.
The fact that that she doesn't ask about Charlie in the first postcard could make one question Emily being the mother, but the first postcard starts with Emily answering a question. The first postcard isn't the first correspondence.
1 hour ago, Ueeediot said:I figured if Charlie is living at the same address as Kim it would make sense that he was Kim's son.
Or Kim is watching Charlie for Emily while Emily is on her honeymoon. Charlie living in the same house when older would make sense if he was raised by his aunt.
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4 hours ago, Gambit said:
I can 100% confirm that the Charlie referenced in the postcards IS the same Charlie McPherson that was later featured in the original Dead Exposure house. After doing some digging I found an old photo from HHN 18 of the Dead Exposure facade and SURPRISE, Charlie's address is the same address the postcards were sent to! 1192 E. Findlay St, Carey, OH. And just in case you were wondering, yes it's a real address and it's an old farm house.
That's the picture I was looking for!!!
Thanks for finding it.
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6 hours ago, Gambit said:
Actually the Charlie McPherson from Dead Exposure was born on 10/20/1980 and died 6/24/2005 (?) so I'm pretty sure they are related.
Depends on which McPherson you are talking about. Journal McPherson (Agana's patient) or House McPherson.
Journal McPherson was born 11/26/1918 and was killed by Agana 7/22/1958.
I couldn't remember House McPherson's info, and couldn't find it.
DE was in 08. My guess would be House McPherson died in 2008 not 05. If he was born in 80, then he would have been 27 or 28 when he died depending on the date of death.
Interestingly, Mary Agana was 38 when she died. She was born April 3, 1920. We know she was possessed by her grandmother prior to being pulled into the mirror. Mary Worthington (grandmother) died in 1908. I don't think we knew her age, but for theories sake let's say she was 38. If Mary Agana had an illegitimate child and that child had a child in 1980, that grandchild would be turning 38 this year.
There was an Easter egg in Ash last year for Mary Agana. 15 year old Mary Agana advertising her babysitting services. It was aged. The rates seem very 90s.
It's a potential storyline. Grandmother possesses granddaughter leading to granddaughter being trapped in mirror world. It would be a cycle.
We could have a new Mary possessed by the old Mary.
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3 hours ago, WESKER69 said:
Is there a reason why these new "Dead Exposure" related postcard tweets aren't being also posted in the actual designated "Dead Exposure" thread?
Like seriously, whats the point of having house threads (and new content relating to it) if we're not even going to discuss all things related to that particular house in its own thread? Spec should be for the stuff that isn't announced yet.
....i'm old. Get off my lawn.
What if there's things to spec about in the postcards?
Like: Who is Charlie? Is it the same Charlie? Is it a new Charlie? If new is he related to the old?
Since Charlie was an integral part of the 08 backstory, is the introduction of this new/old Charlie and backstory going to play a larger role in the event.
Is Emily Charlie's mother? Aunt? Is Greg his father? Uncle? Stepfather?
It appears Emily is Kimberly's sister. She references Mom, not your mom.
So Emily is definitely neé Duncan. We don't know her married name.
With the introduction of this marketing (A&D creating backstory) will we see greater connectivity between the houses.
There's plenty to spec about within these postcards that isn't solely related to DE2.
EDIT: Original ARG backstory for McPherson
Charlie was born 11/26/1918. He was Agana's first victim to die from immersion therapy on 7/22/58. He was 39 years old.
I cant seem to find a clear image of the press pass from the facade to verify the house story and the patient story match up.
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4 hours ago, Futurion said:
I've got you! I edited my original post with both of them.
There's a third one now and I'm in full on research mode.
1192 E. Findlay St, Carey, OH gives me Frederick Brothers IGA when I google it.
Imagination was an 80's UK trio. I've listened to some of their 1982 releases. Singles in 1982 were: In the Heat of the Night, Just an Illusion, Changes, Music and Lights.
Pere Lachaise is the largest Cemetery in Paris.
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24 minutes ago, Futurion said:
Soooo.... Dead exposure? Always love getting some lore.
There's another tweet as well.
I'm having a fangirl moment and my phone isn't charged and my tablet sucks for saving pictures/links.
Remember when I said if the Ifrit was doing what I think he was doing, I'd have more respect for him.
The rhyme had two potential endings that I saw. They were LT or A&D.
I think he was bowing out so he wouldn't step on toes for any story building.
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1 hour ago, zombieman said:
Jeez, I didn't even read the description. I guess they fully realize that HHN has had Chucky running around quite a bit, and for what? I imagine the actors spending more time dodging feet than scaring people.
I can't say that I am up on my Chucky canon having not seen the past few movies. Did any of them ever involve Chucky creating evil toy minions? Or is Universal creative actually going to be able to get creative in an IP zone?
A&D is getting creative with Chucky just like they did in '09. The house had many toy monsters. If the costume isn't too cumbersome or hot, I'd love to see the Barrel Monkey on the streets.
Also, the wording of the description leads me to believe we are correct in our speculation.
"Chucky commands"
"he dishes out"
Chucky is most likely going to be a puppet with a voice actor.
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Like seriously, whats the point of having house threads (and new content relating to it) if we're not even going to discuss all things related to that particular house in its own thread? Spec should be for the stuff that isn't announced yet.
Halloween Horror Nights 28 Speculation
in Halloween Horror Nights 28
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Horror is probably one of the most inclusive genres...
I'm tempted to tell what L F B became, but it's such an excellent piece of trivia. A piece of trivia I had to discover the etymology of the moment I first read it back in 05/06(?). I've read too many books over the years. I picked both up around the time The Wolves of Calla came out. Needed something to tide me over while I waited for HP6 and Song of Susannah.
ST3 plot line:
The Evil Queen has cast a spell allowing her scribes to change the happily ever afters to happily never afters.