Cooger and Dark
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I think TWD will still draw huge crowds. It's still a massive IP and now it's the biggest house in Universal history. I expect it to have massive wait times.
Do you think the GP really knows that it is the biggest house in Uni's history? I know they announced it, but how much do people really pay attention/remember that sort of thing. Obviously, we obsessives know, but what about Joe Schmo?
I have been curious how big of a capacity this house will have given the size of the house. I mean, with double the amount of rooms, one would assume the wait times would SEEM lower.
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True but a bear has strength and moves very fast and well... is real.
They pose a real threat. Aside from the creepy/disgusting aspect, "walkers" pose no real threat unless they some how can sneak up on you wearing headphones.
I mean you might as well replace "walkers" with old peole ON walkers. They feel pain but can actually make rational tactical decisions (sometimes) so it's an even trade.
I still want to write a comic strip called The Improbable Dead to poke fun at TWD. Basically anytime somebody realizes in the comic how the zombies or a situation makes no sense they would suddenly be attacked by 100 zombies that appear out of nowhere... or some other ironic and equally nonsensical death.
This might be up your alley (my buddy says it's a riot):
A small outbreak can turn into a worldwide apocalypse... but only through a long string of screw-ups! Once actual zombies begin popping up in our world, a lone intelligence analyst realizes real-life events are beginning to mimic the events of a long-lost, Grade-Z, drive-in horror flick. As he races to save humanity with this knowledge, he quickly learns the only thing more dangerous than ravenous walking corpses is the ineptitude of the living! The gutsplitting (and then eating) comedy that pokes fun at the zombie horror phenomenon! Illustrated in graytones with red highlights (for blood and gore, of course), so it feels like the ever-popular The Walking Dead series.
Okay, that aside. Do you guys think TWD will be a popular house this year or will AvP and Halloween overshadow the infestation?
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You can kill a bear with a hammer... they're still terrifying.
Hahaha!
Especially if you read Bearmageddon: http://bearmageddon.com/2011/08/01/page-1/
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On AP party nights they block off the Parade and Tents until 6:30pm, correct? My inlaws are heading there opening weekend, they have Stay and Scream, and they want to know the best plan of attack that won't tire them out so I am trying to figure out where to send them first (I am thinking AvP and then have them head over to the Kidzone area since I know it will take them a while to walk there anyways).
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I'd bet dollars to donuts someone is a fan
That whole level is filled with disturbing dolls
As Zero Punctuation said:
Yeah, if the house turns out anything like that level, it'll be pretty cool. Here's to hoping the music is similar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydL4TrO-51A
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It's sizeable. About as big as La Llorona last year.
Very nice!
It reminds me of the Dollhouse stage in Alice: Madness Returns:
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Am I looking at the pics wrong or is the facade for Dollhouse of the Damned really big?
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Gotcha.
I have friends doing Stay and Scream on one of the AP party nights and they were asking me what that meant for where they would be held.
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Thank you.
I wonder if this is any sort of indicator as to whether or not Kidzone will even be a holding area anymore?...
There was rumors a while ago that Kidzone would be shut down for reimagining once the summer months were over and with the word of AP previews checking in by Battery Park I am wondering if that is coming soon. If so, maybe Battery Park will be the holding area this year.
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I heard that AP nights were moving the check in to the Battery Park area of the park and wondered if this meant that would be where people doing stay and scream would have to go as well to check in? Also, where is the Battery Park area considered to be within the park?
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It will be pretty cool I'm sure even though I'm not really a Halloween fan. I did find it interesting it is on the UMTH tour list. What are the sets... Interior house shots? That was pretty much all there was in the movie.
Yeah, I expected Dracula Untold over this. Maybe there are some more impressive effects than we think?...
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I think TWD being a cause of some of this is an accurate reason. I agree that it is a great business decision to include it. People love that show. I personally don't care for it, but it brings people out. I wonder if there is a possibility that whenever TWD's popularity diminishes, will Universal again have to put more effort toward marketing the event or will there be another IP to take the place of the TWD? Conventional wisdom says there will be another TWD, but what other horror-ish entities are there out there to draw numbers like TWD has?
Well American Horror Story seems to be the most talked about but if you look at the numbers, it received less than 5mil on its season 3 finale. What it lacks in numbers it does make up for in word of mouth and awards (although I think everyone knows this house has little likelihood of happening).
Sleepy Hollow seems to be the closest contender numbers wise but the season finale numbers were less than half that of TWD (6.9mil to 15.7mil). That being said, Sleepy Hollow is only one season old and TWD had about 6mil at its season one finale. I am not sure how good the word of mouth has been on this show, but it does seem a show worth considering. At the very least, pulling some ideas from the show for an original house would be pretty amazing (Mr. Sandman, please!).
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Last year they did the full reveal on Thursday the 28th so this is exactly when I was expecting them to finally reveal all.
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^ I really like the idea of using The Purge as the template. Last year's use of Evil Dead provided one of the best shows they have done in recent years and managed to be an actual horror themed show at a Halloween event (Gasp!).
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Hints, clues, anything?
To put it at a guess, some scary looking Wendigo creatures that probably show up earlier in the house than anyone was anticipating. Just speculation, though.
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I just keep thinking of the diner scene in Freeway where the Kiefer Sutherland says:
"Chicken soup, and a f*cking straw!"
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They wouldn't. If they did it, the performers would have to remove their mics prior. The bigger issue though would be that the costumes wouldn't have time to dry between shows. And no, it's incredibly unlikely that Universal would make 7 versions of the same costume for that simple a gag.
That said, I think seeing some reference to the Ice Bucket Challenge is possible. At the very least, they may consider it.
Given how you hear every day about some new celebrity doing the Ice Bucket Challenge, I would expect it would either be represented by a line of dialogue or in the video recorded screens.
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Losing Bill and Ted would be a mistake as the capacity/interest in it year to year are huge so keep it (I actually really enjoyed last year's show).
RHPS should be changed and if they decide to make it another tribute show; Little Shop of Horrors, The Devil's Carnival, and Repo: The Genetic Opera all seem like good options.
Add an icon show like JDW suggested. It could either be a magic/freak/burlesque show or something more like what Singapore did to announce the icon this year:
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Beyonce elevator incident.
Sharknado 2.
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Thanks to those who answered this question... I hope more of our fellow members answer, too, because it helps give me a better idea of who I'm talking to. AND I won't get arrested for contributing to the delinquency of minors for buying the wrong people a drink.
Shit.. I'm the oldest one here so far.
30 and if we were at HHN or HOS at the same time I would gladly take you up on that drink.
By the by, I noticed you said you were the oldest here and yet neglected to give your age...
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so if there is a surprise and the wendigo is a spirit, does that mean the house will be full of human characters and the wendigo will just show up in the last room as a surprise?
as for the legend, I always knew it as a wendigo being a real thing and not a spirit, I don't understand why the legend got screwed up over time because i never heard it as a spirit until now. I wonder what made it change with people telling it
I have heard this house will have stilts, leading me to believe that there will be at least one Wendigo. My story ideas run along two lines: we start with cannibal colonists who become more and more monstrous over time until they fully transform into a Wendigo (which lines up more with mythology) OR we start with cannibal colonists who get eaten/killed by a real Wendigo (which is a nice twist but might be too hard for the GP to understand).
I have heard the Wendigo story both ways and in the research I have done, it seems that it did function as both a creature and a spirit in the Native American legend. They did believe that someone could be possessed by a Wendigo spirit and thus turn cannibal and at the same time they did believe it to be a creature roaming in the wild. There are various looks to the creature itself but all seem to agree that it is a giant and yet emaciated looking to the point that its bones are visible through its skin. The more animalistic look is debated tribe to tribe so while that may be present in the house, it may also just be a gaunt looking giant.
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Houses:
1. Roanoke - The setting intrigues me and I expect something along the lines of Nightingale's which was awesome.
2. Dollhouse of the Damned - I have heard this might be the dark horse house of the year so my anticipation is up.
3. Alien vs. Predator - If done well, this could be amazing.
4. Halloween - The close quarters of a tent will make this feel just like the movie.
5. Giggles and Gore - Though it is supposed to be short, my friend is terrified of clowns so I cannot wait to see her go through this one.
6. Dracula Untold - This one edges out FDTD because I imagine it will be more period-centric and I have no idea what to expect so I will most likely get scared in here
7. From Dusk Til Dawn - I like the movie and what I have seen of the show, but the above houses just sound better or seem more likely to catch me off guard.
8. The Walking Dead - It's a megahouse based on what I have been told is a pretty cool season so this should be fun. Also, like Dracula I have not seen this season so they have the advantage of the unexpected when it comes to scaring me (which they did not have last year).
Scarezones:
1. MASKerade: Unstitched - Sounds wonderfully and beautifully twisted which makes me think of the costume designs for 7.
2. The Purge: Anarchy - Big scarezones, motorcycles, and creepy masks. Nuff said.
3. Bayou of Blood - This could be a cool performance zone or a great scarezone.
4. Face Off: In the Flesh - Not a bad sounding zone, but the other stuff just sounds more interesting.
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I have Halloween on top of that list, Aliev vs Predator sounds like a strong one as well. Just because a house is on a tent does not disqualify it from HOTY (Havoc Dogs of War, Dead Exposure), and last year wasent't an IP house of the year?
I'll check them out before rolling my crystal ball and making predictions. Competition is very stiff this year.
You make some good points. I am glad you remembered Dead Exposure, because the tents cannot be HOTY argument has always bugged me. Even though The Forsaken won in 2011, The Inbetween was always highly rated.
I know American Werewolf in London won last year, but that was the first time in 5 years that an IP house won and, I have to guess, the GP did not really know the property so it probably took a lot of people by surprise.
I agree, it is going to be a close competition this year.
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I hope fdtd surprises all of you I think you guys are really underestimating it if you have seen the movie and not the show I can see why you would say its not gonna be very good but being a big fan of Robert rodriguez and tarrintino movies I am very exited and if you have seen the show then you know that theres way more than just the bar inside the good ole titty twister wich if done right will be awesome I am also excited for twd house I know yall don't like it much that its back but I have not been able to make it the past few years and I love the show so I for one am glad its back and lets face it Michael myers is the $#!+ with all that said heres my best to worst predictions
scarezones
1.purge
2.boyou of blood
3.mask a rade
4.face off
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1.ftdt
2.halloween
3.twd
4.doll house of the damned
5.avp
6.cannibal colony
7.giggle n gore
8.Dracula untold
and I see a lot of yall B!+chin about scarezones and if I recall everything isn't all said and done for all yall know theres hopefully at least one more coming
I don't think we are discounting those houses, we are just operating under what information we know. I mean, if you look at the last five-ish years the winners are usually the originals or the lesser known IPs. I think the reason for that is, knowing the source material makes it less scary since you know what to expect. That does not mean the houses are not good, it just means there are other houses out there that the GP likes better. It makes sense since part of the appeal of horror is the unexpected.
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Orlando Trip Questions
in Halloween Horror Nights 24
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Your best bet is to pick a side (SS or Tents) and clear that side completely without using your Express Passes. Which you choose is based entirely on preference. Since you have multiple nights you could try out both ways and work off of that. If I had to guess, the three big draw houses this year are going to be TWD, AvP, and Halloween so take that as you will.