Karras
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Except for Cleaver and Spawning. Those are from the minds at Fangora.
Fangora drew up the blue prints for those houses?
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Whether it's IP houses, returning houses or original concepts the quality between them is indistinguishable. It's all from the minds of Art & Design.
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I might of missed something in these forums and sorry to say but where is the evidence to suggest P&T are going to be there 100%? Im not sure if I like the idea of this (if it is in fact true) I can't see it being that good at all. Alice cooper I can understand but P&T is a bit of a weird one for me.
It's all good if you missed it. We crossed that bridge a few pages back. Everyone yelled at me. I think it's a stupid idea as well. The only way I can see it working is, Penn & Teller presents so-in-so in 3D and they don't appear anywhere in the house. I just can't wait till guests enter the park and look at their maps to see the house line-up and say, "Penn & Teller? What the hell!?"
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Is A&D really doing all this house switching at the last minute? With all the sets built, effects... etc Or is it just, "My souces told me....balahablah."
A lot of talk about an Alice Cooper House. I can't imagine what that would be like. It doesn't immediately conjure up any scares for me. Has anyone gone through the Alice Cooper houses in Hollywood in the past ? What do you think ? Are they worthy of HHN orlando ? Any real scares ?
Whoa whoa careful there. They don't take kindly to opinions around these parts.
I agree with you. But I can see an Alice Cooper house over frickin Penn & Teller.
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If these Penn & Teller rumors are indeed true, what a waste of a house.
You're still reaching. Nowhere in my post did I say anything about Bill and Ted being a haunted house.
You missed my point entirely dude. From the get go I was talking about taking obscure properties and turning them into houses. For some odd reason Bill and Ted was brought up, which is a show, not a house.
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Really? How am I reaching?
I eagerly await your, what was the word you like to use, proof.
You said it yourself.
Let's take this further though:
I'm still waiting on your proof for P&T's involvment.
Karras, no offense but you seem to be the one reaching. He laid out 3 things for you. Bill and Ted has absolutely nothing to do with Horror but yet is a staple every single year. Arbor day? Easter? Nobody ever thought of those two holidays in a horror sense before HHN. HHN has a way of taking normal things and adding a Horror twist and they do it very well.
As for your question, someone like me feels the house makes more sense for everyone involved. How can you expect Penn and Teller to drop their show in Vegas and their tour to do HHN every event night? The house allows them to have a presence at the event without having to give up all the money they could make touring and in Vegas. The flip side is Universal saves a ton of money by having them do a house and not a show. Obviously a show makes more sense if your looking at it from the standpoint with no budget constraints.
My fault, I forgot Bill & Ted are featured in a haunted house every year.
I fully understand how certain properties/ideas can have a horror twist on them but not P&T. If they themselves are going to be involved at all show or house it will be in video form with assistants.
The logistics of a haunted house featuring magic and topical humor doesn't make sense to me. Plus can you imagine the reset time on the magic tricks? Are the scare actors going to have to stand there and repeat the same tricks over and over?
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I'm assuming A&D will showcase season 1 & 2 just from the clues and photos we have thus far. Does this mean no Michonne? Will this house have at least a few references to the books? Here's to hoping.
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What has the Undertaker done for horror? Honestly.
Let's take this further though:
What has Arbor Day and Easter done for Horror before HHN?
What has Bill and Ted done for horror? They're a staple.
You're automatically assuming that just because someone doesn't do horror they can't do horror. And that is the wrong way to look at it. Anything can become scary done right.
You're reaching.
You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you? They're famous for being magicians with a "psychotic twist" who specialize in gory tricks. Teller is debuting a horror film. They're in the very least, far more significant to the genre than the Undertaker from the WWE...
Either way, they really don't need a specific tie to the genre. They're extremely creative minds who can add some very unique effects and factors to this year's event.
Once again. Would Penn & Teller make more sense as a show or a haunted house?
A quick google search would have told you there "link" to horror. (not to mention there dark twisted sense of humor)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2331027/
http://playdeadthemovie.com/trailer/
The house may be based off this for all we know
Uh oh, you got me there
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Oh so its a dumb idea for someone of celebrity status to come in and create an original house? Hmmm... funny. It has worked for Hollywood since 1998. Clive Barker (1998, 1999, 2000), Rob Zombie (1999, 2000), WWF's The Undertaker (2000), Alice Cooper (2011). Oddly enough, you have no idea how good or bad a house would be if Penn & Teller (or anyone else for that matter) were to create it.
Just because you don't like the idea of it happening, doesn't mean it isnt true.
Ok now, look closely (real close) at the names you presented in your post. Every one of them is involved in horror one way or another. What are Penn & Teller's contributions to the horror genre?
Where's the proof for it?
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And your proof would be?....
Next you're going to say that P&T don't have history with HHN... specifically not in 1992 at HHN Hollywood with a show called "The Bad Boys of Magic"...
Where's the proof for it? I'm sorry but a person claiming to have ‘sources’ isn’t enough for me. Plus there's a great difference between a P&T show and a house. One making sense and the other the dumbest idea I've heard happening to HHN since the tent over IOA.
No.
They've revealed two houses, had a static splash up for two months, shown concept art for an upcoming house and you're still expecting a teaser site? I know everyone wants that "over-arching theme," but it isn't happening. Why can't people just appreciate what they're getting?
Me thinks you doth protest too much.
I know you’re the speculation police but you've been wrong in past years.
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I'm excited to see how flawless The Walking Dead zombie make-up will be in person. I hope it's a somewhat lengthy house (for Disaster queue).
So is it safe to say this year’s theme will be mostly a post-apocalyptic theme?
Maybe the teaser site this year will be a time bomb slowly counting down to opening day (the apocalypse) with each update being clues on how to traverse the wasteland.
If HHN is going with an apocalypse theme this year, I wonder if the Penn &Teller house could be a dark comedy satire of end-of-the-world scenarios and conspiracy theories? P&T have been poking fun at this kind of stuff for years. Could be pretty entertaining...
There is no Penn & Teller house. It was just a lame rumor that is still floating around for some reason.
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Do you guys think the Silent Hill announcement video indicates we won’t see Pyramid head until the finale of the house?
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I'm stoked to see Silent Hill and The Walking Dead brought to life. I have no doubt the houses will look great, I just hope they don't have staffing problems like some of the houses last year.
For Silent Hill I'm assuming we will see a return of the 'vortex tunnel' due to the jumping between worlds/dimensions. Its way past due they retire it but if it works for the story so be it.
We got a little taste last year, hopefully we will be seeing more video game themed mazes and zones this year or in the future.
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Run: Hostile Territory was not a dual run house.
Really? I know I saw different paths and even ventured down one. Maybe it was for wheelchairs.
So for those wondering... yes.. SS22 could have a 2nd house (which has been mentioned several times already), but its unlikely.
Why is it unlikely? I could see 4 sound stage houses.
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Yea, I know it's tight in there. Just thought it would be an interesting idea.
It is interesting. But could you imagine the traffic trying to get in and out of there? Remember the Skoolhouse from 08?
Could there be a coulpe or at least one dual eun house?
Yes. Especially with the possibility of losing a house this year. There was kinda-sort-of one in 06, Run: Hostile Territory. Also Where Evil Hides from 05 and S.S. Frightanic from HHN 8.
Edit: Actually I don't think Where Evil Hides was duel run. Just a mirrored house. I'm sure I missed a few as well.
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Question: Any chance the current Amity walkway can be made into something of a house/SZ hybrid?
I doubt it. Unless the scare zone is going to be a pinball based zone with the scareactors playing the flippers and guests as the balls.
Haunt season is officially here! Or wait, has it already started? I don't know but I thought I would be cheesed about losing a house but if the set design is as stellar as last year I'm not complaining.
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The set for the sound stage Mayan house is going to be recycled from Nickelodeon's Legends of the Hidden Temple.
I don't know if this was mentioned yet but Ray Keim, the main guy that is usually in charge of the website wasn't hired this year. He commented on Facebook, "It looks like they won't need my usual services for HHN this year. It's very disappointing and perplexing."
Now I'm officialy worried that this year we won't have our usually weekly updates to build the anticipation.
I'm sure they'll find someone else or use another method. Plus the websites the last few years were a little lame.
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I got scared more in that house than THING and Forsaken. There were plenty of scares in that house. Not to mention that it was the most atmosFEARic house last year. You probably missed them due to timing. That happens with every house. Its all about timing with houses. I did Hallowd Past last year and saw noone. I went back and did it again and saw them all. Same with In-Between last year.
I went through Winter's Night 6 times. The scares were always distant and easy to see. Plus all of the actors lacked the energy other houses had. It was just "Boo! Oh shit you saw me. I'll come back in a few."
Everyone I attended the event with and other friends I've talked to also said it was on the bottom of their list for 2011. The lack of traffic on non-peak nights should have produced amplified scares. I was really surprised when I came to this poll and saw it at #2.
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Great Job WINTERS NIGHT!!
Goes to show people really don't care about the overall scare factor of a house. Just that it looks cool.
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Rumors are floating around at Behind the Thrills.
http://behindthethri...rror-nights-22/
It all sounds interesting and exciting, minus the one section of the event for kids and the other for adults.
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Top 10 Favorite Houses
1. Castle Vampyr
2. Screamhouse
3. PsychoScareapy: Maximum Madness
4. Scary Tales III: Once Upon a Nightmare
5. PsychoScareapy
6. All Nite Die-In
7. Frankenstein: Creation of the Damned
8. Interstellar Terror
9. The Hallow
10. Catacombs: Black Death Rising
5 Worst
1. People Under the Stairs: Under Construction
2. Jungle of Doom
3. Cold Blind Terror
4. The Skool
5. The Orfanage: Ashes to Ashes
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Evilution from 2002. The Jurassic Park house. I've heard people trash it but I thought it was classic.
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2.Winter's Night:ive done this house 6 times, and ive gotten at least 2 scares in each of those runs. this house defenitely shows the best consistency.
That's consistency? Hmmm.
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Final Thoughts
HHN 21 has come to a close for me. It was a solid rebuilding year but once again the soundstage houses being hit or miss and the Mascot/Icon were a big blow. I was fortunate enough to have only 1 crappy run of The Thing. Nightingales and Winters Night were weak in the scare department. The best parts of Nightingales are too easy to miss on repeat runs. The actors timing was always off and they all seemed so short in height. I felt I could kick them. Winters Night scares are non existent. Most runs I would see a max of 4 actors. To end my geek rank is Lady Luck, who I will forget about come Nov.
Now that I got the complaints out of the way I did have a good time this year. The scare zones brought a lot of NEW to the table. Some of them could have easily failed but didn't. The whole park had a great vibe this year even in the spots with no SZ's. The non SS houses did a great job and used some weak venues well (S&S, HoR).
21 will forever be remembered for raising the bar in the set design department. As much as I dislike Winters Night, I was still in awe at the beauty of it.
And next year...
Halloween Horror Nights 22 - Islands of Fear II (10 years later mwahahahaha....
)I can only hope.
*Awards*
*House of the Year* - The In Between
*Scare Zone of the Year* - Grown Evil
*Scare Actors of the Year (House)* - The In Between
*Scare Actors of the Year (SZ)* - 7 & Grown Evil
*Set Design* - Nightingales: Blood Prey
*Sound Design* - The Thing
*Wild Card* - The Forsaken
*Museum of the Year* - Winter's Night: The Haunting of Absolutely Nothing
*Most Disappointing House* - Nightingales: Blood Prey
Final House Ranks
1. The In Between - 6 Runs
2. The Thing - 5 Runs
3. Nevermore: The Madness of Poe - 6 Runs
4. Saws n' Steam: Into the Machine - 4 Runs
5. The Forsaken - 6 Runs
6. H.R. BloodnGutz presents Holidays of Horror - 4 Runs
7. Nightingales: Blood Prey - 5 Runs
8. Winter's Night: The Haunting of Absolutely Nothing - 6 Runs
Final Scare Zone Ranks
1. Grown Evil
2. 7
3. Acid Assault
4. Canyon of Dark Souls
5. NightMaze
6. Your Luck Has Run Out
Year Rank
1. 13
2. Reflections of Fear
3. Islands of Fear
4. Ripped from the Silver Screen
5. Sweet 16
6. 21
7. XIV
8. Carnival of Carnage
9. Twenty Years of Fear
10. Tales of Terror
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Bring on another 3D house! The In-Between was fantastic.
As the location goes, as brash as Chris is I agree with him. Locations don't matter. The Hallow, Dead Exposure, Chucky... and so on were tent houses that rocked. Pun not intended.