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49 minutes ago, rockingamer17 said:
As a fan of the series I loved the house at 19, and looking forward to what this one could be.
The one in 19, the facade was like a steel mill warehouse in the jaws queue. You enter and see jigsaw in his lair with security cameras/tvs displaying different victims in different traps. The rest is walking through moments from the films watching victims in the traps. You see Adam in the bathroom with his foot chained to the wall, Amanda with the reverse bear trap, the barb wire trap from part 1, head trapped in a box from part 5 etc. Then in the end you're chased out by pig masked jigsaw. Billy the puppet also had a scare where he would roll out and blast you with air.
Completely agree. This house had some very solid scares and "sneak attack" surprises. I accidentally fell backwards into someone and we both hit the ground. That hasnt happened to me before in 19 years of going.
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1 hour ago, Oysterhead00 said:
Wow, stalk much? Probably just means been going to / working for HHN Since 2007...or Since VII...or one of 500 million things you wouldn't possibly know.
It's not a hint and certainly nothing you should be stopping the driver for, it's just a fan of the event.
I don't know Florida license plates, but most states allow up to 8 digits. If for some insane reason they decided to give hints by employees registered license plates, HHN27TWD or HHN27AHS would both work.
Take off your tinfoil hat and leave this fan or employee in peace.
Just to add, Specialty license plates typically do not have the Orange in the middle and if it does the text is written over it. I have one.
However Florida plates are just 6 digits if they are generic/normal ones.
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19 minutes ago, ThNdIzNiR said:
I thought that all the houses were fairly decent last year except maybe Chance's (3d bologna). I only started attending since HHN 20, so I missed out on those teen years. I can't imagine that the houses were that much better back in the day with a smaller budget. However, I'd imagine that the scare zones were probably way better since there was no parade and a lot less people. What I don't like is how much the price has steadily increased each year for the same quality or less in some instances. The people paying full price for one night without express and no stay and scream are definitely getting hosed.
The Exorcist felt like Hot Topic??? IT'S THE POWER OF CHRIST!
When you have less money, you get more creative. In all aspects of life. The houses were once very creative and the point was to entertain and scare you....not to make you feel like you're walking through a pretty TV/Movie set.
Scare Zones I have never cared about, so I don't get into that.....but I will say the cohesive environment played a HUGE part of how much I loved the event.
I understand people love it, and until last year, I was still a huge fan. I just finally woke up when some of the local haunts entertained and scared me MUCH more than anything at HHN. It feels like a frat party taking a backlot tour at a movie studio instead of a major horror event.
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14 hours ago, zombieman said:
Critical, this is becoming a broken record...
May 2015, in reference to the upcoming HHN 25:
"It's amazing to me how little y'all need to be excited about something. ... The event has zero cohesion. Everything is all over the place. ... They failed..."
March 2016, in reference to the upcoming HHN 26:
You started a topic "Anyone other than me getting a bad vibe about this year?"
When you were little and got out of school for summer break, did you tell your friends "Man, Christmas is gonna suck this year"?
But is it a lie? I know it gets tiring to hear complaints, but some of us know exactly how awesome it used to be. Back when the budget was MUCH LESS than it is now.
It's a lazy cash grab recently.
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21 hours ago, SeventyOne said:
Funny, I went to Catharsis and found it such a pile of dog squeeze I actually softened my criticism of this year's HHN a bit. Even at it's worst I find HHN miles ahead of that in terms of design, effects and scares. Ditto that raved about haunt in Winter Haven I went to 3 years ago.
You might not have liked it, I did, but the point is they at least tried something new. I went in by myself and loved what they attempted to do. There was thought behind it and maybe next year the sets and design will be better.
Scream A Geddon near Tampa is also new and very good. The point I was making is that there are others out there that are hungry and really want to scare you. I am so tired of walking through houses at HHN and picking out sets from past years more than I am being scared. The recorded audio is simply stupid. More people laughed in the Exorcist than screamed. It was embarrassing. The last room with the "take me! take me!" and that deformed, laughably bad Regan doll with curled up polio legs was just pitiful.
I don't even care about crowds because I genuinely look forward to what is in the house. People loved Ghost Town's sets. Why? Why should I get excited about a set when the content of the house sucks? I honestly have no idea why people like this year's house. The original was good and that's where it should have stayed.
IPs are great and all, but they limit creativity. We all know what to expect when going into an IP house. It's like a walking museum. Original houses have things we have never seen, and are therefor much better at scaring us. I used to leave HHN full of awesome ideas that I wanted to implement at home. After the Hallow a few years ago, I decorated my entire yard based on that house. This year I left each night wishing I could feel that way again. It's not that hard ya know. They could stop this shoving IP down the throat crap, put some atmosphere into the parks again, make it immersive instead of it being nothing but walkways to soundstages so we can marvel at the Facades.
I know people will get shitty about this, but it's the truth. There is nothing about "missing the old days" because we are old timers. What made us fans to begin with? What made me go for so many years and save up for months so I could buy every single piece of merch? It sure as hell wasnt 5 years of the Walking Dead.
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7 hours ago, Hhnsophmore said:
We get it. You don't like the event anymore. You are critical and your opinion is wiser than all of ours
Sometimes the truth is the truth. Hell, even Howl O Scream in Tampa is better at creating atmosphere and scares with a hell of a lot less budget. I went to a "house" here in Orlando called Catharsis and the whole thing was unique and entertaining. HHN has become a corporate sell out event, and there's nothing that can change that now. After going fro 19 of the 26 years, I can honestly say this was probably my last time of buying the most expensive passes, hundreds of dollars in merch and food. I think it's time to support local and more creative events.
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I have a FF+ pass with Express. I have been twice and have no desire to go again. I've been going since 1994 and just have no love for this year outside a couple of houses.
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Just a quick comment - I was watching the trailer for The Descent this morning and one of the first blurbs from critics that came across the screen was "Claustrophobic". Not saying we will get the Descent, but I think what was said above about cobweb might be true.
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I noticed even more scream leftovers this Sunday... Casey's boyfriend, gutted, is in the garage. Somehow I missed that my first 2 walkthroughs.
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Horrible house. They had a really great idea and completely fell on its face in execution. The ending rooms were enjoyable. The 3D was, as usual, extremely bad.
I walked through it again Sunday thinking I might have just not had a good run, but it made me hate it even more. I laughed out loud, and not in a good way. Awful.
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This is the first year I've seen next to everyone say TWD was decent at best, horrible at worst, with most somewhere in between. Last year it was one of the highest rated houses, but this year....
I can see a negative reaction after 4 years causing Universal to FINALLY see that TWD isn't the main IP driving people in anymore. FvJ, Insidious, and even Purge are already proving more popular than TWD, and the fact that the first 2 are so strong will only continue to make that happen. I think I could safely say there is a very good chance this IS TWD's final year.
However, I won't say that. Why? Because on Saturday, Hollywood's TWD maze got up to a 150 min wait, and is one of their strongest mazes and possibly their highest rated thus far in guest surveys. This is always the case for Hollywood. Murdy never has a problem with doing what's popular, so he'll continue to bring it back until the end of time. Who's to say they won't continue spreading the IP over both coasts, whether or not it's wanted in Orlando?
I don't see them repeating an exact replica of an IP again. I think AWiL was a special case. I wouldn't mind at all repeating classic originals from the past, such as the ones JDW mentioned. They'd be new to most GP, diehards from the way back will enjoy the nostalgia, and newer diehards will get to experience houses from before their time that have been praised for so long. Add in the fact that they probably have most, if not all, the materials they need in storage outside of actually building the house, it's a win/win/win for all involved. Cheap, effective way to add a house to the event.
As for house locations next year, I'd say 4 SSs, Shrek, Parade, 2 tents like normal. Then, you have the options of the MiB extended queue, building a third tent, they're building a 2nd parade building for when the current one is demoed for Nintendo; if it's done soon enough, they could build a house there, etc. They can pull a Hollywood (or a 2012) and go back down a house, but I really hope not.
Also, I was sent a survey yesterday from universal to give opinions of the event the opening weekend. There were two or three questions asking about bringing back The Walking Dead in 2016. I made sure to mention in every comment section that The Walking Dead is DONE. Anyone else get this survey?
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I do not get the love for this house... AT all. I really wanted it to be amazing. I absolutely hated it. I like the facade. I like some of the 3D effects. But not scary, ridiculously goofy costumes, and just felt completely off in feel and appropriateness for the event. Honestly I felt my two year old daughter was more of the target audience for it. Maybe I missed something.
It's my least favorite house ...EVER. And although I see a lot of people on here liking it, the line outside on Saturday night might be an indication of how much the GP likes it (hint, not much of a line and Friday night it was packed).
My friends and I walked out...almost felt insulted...like was it a joke?
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Literally ever scene in this house had Scream written all over it. The Drew mannequin, the kitchen, the tree, the garage, the Sidney bedroom, the toilets, the theater scene from Scream 2. All they did was paint graffiti all over the house. I applaud the scareactors in this house because the worked their asses off to provide thrills....but I just kept seeing what was meant to be and it let me down.
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Lol. The nitpicky is strong right now.
Really, projections of 25 on the side of buildings and NY's music ruin your night? That's enough to send you over the edge? Projections are meh, but I wouldn't really let something like that ruin the mood. As for the music it's a block party with Shadybrook Asylum. They have some classic halloween songs like the Witch Doctor I've heard the Theme from A Summer Place is thrown in though I haven't heard it but that's a Shadybrook Staple.
Is the music loud? Yes, but so are general guest noises, screams, chainsaws etc. it'd easily be drowned out otherwise. For instance, I can never hear the opening ceremonies audio over everyone yelling no matter what video I watch. Someone who was there said they couldn't hear it either. It's not like creative has run out of ideas the street of NY. The street has a LOT going on. A lot of props, a lot of mini "shows".
I'm really not sure what you honestly expected for HHN? It didn't seem like anything horribly major that was so much of a letdown was complained about. I guess lack of theme could be the biggest issue, but there hasn't been a theme in how many years now? Lack of detail might be another but technically it was day 1 and I'd generally give them the full first week to figure things out. They had a mini stage on EP and it was gone on Opening. So there's still things they are undoubtably working on until the event gets to peak nights later on.
The music in NY is not what I am taking about....there's a backing track of, what I assume, is panic - disorder. It's impossible to discern what the point is since it just sounds like a bunch of noise.
The projections.. do you remember Acid Assault? The projections of the building crumbling? Compare that originality to static huge 25s everywhere. A Bloody Mary video was projected on MIB a few years back - even though no one was really in that part of the park. There's a reason that people don't like the 25 and find it unoriginal.
Although newly posting, I have been here for years. I posted a couple of years ago a leak and got in trouble so I went back to lurking. I say that because just because you think your point is valid, I also think mine is too. I started going during Fright Nights, so it's not like I am some newbie "expecting" something out of this world. Like I said, when you go through M&M and see all the cool things they've done in the past, then go into the new houses...it's night and day.
I applaud them for trying hard this year... I think the merchandise (although crazy expensive this year) is awesome, I think having Jack back is awesome, and even the scare zones. But the houses this year are just blah. Tell me one house that compares to Gothic, or The Forsaken, or even Dead Silence. Hell even the 2001 houses that were tamed down were more inventive and exciting.
I will be there again tonight for sure...because I have a FF+ with Express, so I wont waste it.
I am glad a lot of people like it (and they do - looking at the general public on Facebook), but that doesnt mean I have to like it as much and it certainly doesnt mean my views/opinions arent valid.
Like JDW, I am trying new things this year...after hearing HOS was crappy, I went last year and had a MUCH better time there...where it seems they still have the "old school haunt" feeling like HHN used to have.
The end of the story is that Orlando's HHN is becoming Hollywood, and I just have to accept that and move on.
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That's pretty much my take on the entire event this year. So much so, in fact, that this may well be my last HHN. Not sure who the forum member was, JWD, _mz, someone well known here, who opted to skip this year, well, smart move.
So many dissapointments and just in your face, obnoxious details but here are some that really stand out:
Loud does not equal scary. Unless you're an infant. Universal seems to think that just blaring loud sounds and music mixed together somehow is scary. Um, it isn't and certainly shows lack of creativity.
That goes for the "25" images projected onto buildings. Really? Talk about a lack of theme. Here's a news flash too: No one fucking cares. 13, 21, 24 or 25, just stick to a theme. Even obnoxious Jack images would have been better.
Thanks for bringing back, and creating new, AMAZING effects for TWD. That water scene, you know, a garden hose emptying into some type of plastic bucket, wow! Mind blown! And the shit-tastic zombie group from last year? Thank you!
Purge? Yeah, spray painted hallways and strobe lights.
AWIL is, granted, a great house but, let's be real, it's no different than last year. Certainly not better. In fact, I think it lost some detail.
RUN? WTF. Just, WTF.
I could go on, but, why? The fanboi "everything is amazing and I'll pay any amount and stand in any wait times for it" mentality is what's likely most detrimental to the event. I dare say, HHN may well have passed it's prime.
I kind of agree. I was thinking something was wrong with me for not liking the houses. FvJ started good, but the videos made me LOL. I did like BC, but I honestly didnt like any other house that much. The facades are all good, but the rest... I mean just walking into M&M and seeing the sets for older houses...then going into the new ones, it makes it completely obvious the lack of detail and scale for this year. I didnt do RUN or the Purge because I kept hearing how poor they are.
Also the music in NY? What the heck? Loud and just....made no sense.
I just think this year is generic. The only thing I truly enjoyed was the central park area. It was spot on....even though ever costume, prop and scare was recycled.
Also, I had Express passes and have never waited as long as I did last night. The line for Express on Insidious was out to the ENTRANCE. Same thing for FvJ. I waited 45 minutes with Express! Oh well. I have been going since 1993 and maybe I am just past my prime. lol
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I was able to hit all the houses with no express pass, it took me and my group from 6 to 12:20. Run has a queue video!
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Agreed. In fact the people I went in with all said it's the worst house they've been in in 15 years. I walked out and just thought...WTF?
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Prices this year are insane. I went last night to get a jump on the merchandise and was floored - The shirts are the best value.
Bottle Opener - $19
Tumbler - $27!!
Mug - $21.95
Keychain - $17
Logo Pin - $17.95
Lanyard - $10.95
All Shirts - $24.95
Beach Towels - $24.95 (decent prices)
Lunch Box - $20
HHN 27 Speculation
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Great logic! So Howl o scream at Busch Gardens should have only houses based off beer, zoos, and Rollercoasters, while Knotts Berry Farm should have houses based on cows.
I've been going since it was Fright Nights minus a couple of years (yes I'm old) and have watched it evolve. Original content built the event for 15 years and IPs did not. Yes, there was a couple of houses here and there but they most certainly were not the driving force that made the event what it is today. Today it's only about money and not content. We all love scare zones and houses but the event was much more than that. The themes, the overall atmosphere was of a scary Halloween event. I akin it to movies being made... Original content or endless remakes. Remaking a house so I can live the movies is not original or scary no matter how anyone spins it.