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No one knows. Doc has always put rumors in that people thought were outlandish and dismissed them. I believe Doc, himself, was surprised when P&T actually came to be. (P&T were speculated on before April last year).Omg! I religiously watched "Svengoolie" here in Chicago when I was a kid. I even wrote him a fan letter, and was thrilled when I got a return postcard from him. Loved my "Creature Feature" Friday nights.. <sigh>
Ok, so I'm new to Dr. Jimmy's "annual reveal". On average how much comes true??? I would friggin DIE for all of this as laid out. And a Horror Unearthed house? OMG!! Bonus with my beloved Iniquitus at the end??!! I so miss them..
Fill me in.. will we actually get any of this??
He could have slipped real clues or hints in this time, but there has been this strange occurrence with the Doc. When he's joking, as in he actually thinks he's making a joke, the speculation or reveal comes partially or fully to fruition.
EDIT: BALLOONS!!!!
Good Doctor, until proven otherwise, Balloons shall refer to Pennywise
They all float down here, after all.
*runs off to her Delusion corner and grasps her dreams and hopes with a death grip*
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So I bring you some news from the world of HHN...
Today I checked out the Universal Orlando UK site and saw this...
https://www.universalorlando.co.uk/Annual_Events/Halloween-Horror-Nights.aspx
Now here is the United States version...
https://www.universalorlando.com/Events/Halloween-Horror-Nights.aspx
Before you say anything.. this hasn't always been there on the UK site.. Just went up over the last couple days.
Confirmation of Location? Is that what I'm seeing?
Both sites state Universal Studios Florida. Or am I missing something because I'm on my phone?
Yay, joke time is over!!!!
Balloons, hmmmm.
Balloons makes me think of Macy's, birthday parties, the circus.....
Or is it a hot air balloon reference? Is it verb form instead of noun? Could it be something that balloons/expands.
Can we at least get hot, cold, warm? Pretty, pretty please.... *ggls*
This is going to be fun.
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I have to admit, I've been curious about what the house will be for Hollywood that they have code named "Trickster". And if it's such a great find, will it be one that is shared?
Murdy has stated Trickster is Hollywood only.It could change, but Hollywood only for now.
EDIT: From Twitter
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H. R. Bloodngutz is too comical for the GP masses?
One word: Jack
Jack is the beloved of the GP. He was definitely dark humor and comical. Over-the-top, tongue in cheek, cliche, dark humor comical.
The real issue would be reference. The Creature Feature style host is not that well-known by the masses anymore.
If H. R. Bloodbgutz ever got is day as an icon, I would not want to see him tied down to only IPs. There is too much creative potential to shackle him with them, and them alone.
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Pulsing is the only thing I can think of that would help. And I know it's not practical. That's why I try to leave space between myself and the people in front of me.
I don't know if it was the crowds that caused it last year, each house would have a person capacity, but I did get "pulsed" last year a couple of times. They held of both lines for maybe about 30 seconds to a minute right when I got to the front.
What I do to make the event scarier is I allow myself to be scared. I drop my guard. I don't look for the scareactors. I mentally prepare myself for fear. I've gone to 13 events. This year will be my 14th. I never go to the event thinking, I wonder if they'll scare me. I go into thinking I can't wait until they scare me.
But the fear is not why I love the event. It's the detail, the storylines, the immersion, and interactivity. And us the diehard fans. We make the event for ourselves. Meet ups. Running into people we know. Unable to walk 15 ft without someone saying hi or a scareactor giving the fandom a shout out.
That's why this event is better than all others to me. My husband, my daughter, and I wore CSW shirts to HOS last year. There wasn't a single shout out or any kind of recognition from the scareactors.
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I agree. I think the initial factor of gore is its shock. Our culture is inundated with graphic scenes. It means nothing anymore. Gore may get you at first but ultimately you become more and more desensitized and jaded to everything.
They DID use smells (did you smells hell's kitchen?... Psychoscarapy?
) They make people complain.I've smelt the smells of the past, even the smells from last year, but those smells weren't of blood and decomp. That's why it loses reality for me. Those two specific smells. I also know A&D could never use those two smells. People would complain and probably get sick.
I love the smells, they do incorporate.
The one thing that will never happen....
Pulse the lines!!!!
I'm glad you agree. The cough from Catacombs stands out for me.
I love the smells as well.
But I refuse to taste the houses. I don't know who or what has touched them.
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HHN is rated PG IMO, many Haunts are borderline rated R in some cases.. I'm not a fan of gore but some Haunts do it well enough were its not so over the top.. HHN isnt intense and hasnt been in yrs.
All gore is generally useless to me. Does nothing for me. I did my first dissection at 12. I cut open a shark, removed its liver, removed its stomach, and then removed its last meal from its stomach. I watch medical shows for fun. I've given birth twice. Gore is just a part of the human body.
Visual immersion is all good and well, but blood flung about a room? Intestines hanging? Cut open bodies? Completely useless visual without the proper smells attached. And I've never once smelled blood or decomposition at HHN.
Gore always takes me out of the moment, because I can tell it's not real.
This probably makes me sound extremely twisted, but I'm a sciency type of person.
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I'm always interested by the requests for a "scarier" event.
All the requests ask for visual stimuli or more aggressive scareactors.
The one thing that isn't ask for, or at least I haven't seen it, is better sound.
Sound? One might ask.
The most terrifying house I've been in was Dead Exposure. I became more and more apprehensive of it as I approached the house. The facade didn't cause my apprehension and fear to start. It was the sound. Not the music being played in the queue, but the sounds of the house. A low level hum. Barely audible. Almost like wind or white noise , but it vibrated in your bones. And with each step, it sent waves of discord. It felt off. Out of sync.
Sound plays a large role in human perception. Major chord = happy. Minor chord = sad. Augmented can place us on edge.
For everyone who went through Catacombs, close your eyes and think about that house.
What do you hear?
How excited were you the first time you heard the siren from SH last year?
I think sound plays a key role in our experience. I've also sensed a lack in the sounds the past couple of years. They seemed less refined for me. There is either too much or too little or they seem very cliche.
A perfect house would be a well balanced assault on all our senses.
Well except for taste. No tasting the houses.
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Phantom doesn't fit all the clues.
Besides the time periods, it does not fit:
- Strangely inspired by a book.
- Murdy grew up with it. Specifically, his comment about Jr. High and 1980.
Phantom was based on a book, not strangely inspired by a book. The book was published in 1911. The original movie was 1913. The musical came out in 1986. You can shoehorn various time periods into a Phantom themed house, but the source material is Victorian with the sequel being 1920s.
I love Phantom. I think it would be a great house. The sets would be amazing. I don't think Trickster is Phantom.
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Regarding Trickster:
I apologize if someone has already mentioned it, but there was a 1980 TV series called Hammer's House of Horrors. It seems to fit most of the clues.
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News regarding the house code name Trickster.
Murdy has confirmed Trickster is Hollywood only.
Murdy also stated he cannot say if the parks will share any mazes.
If I get I chance I will try to write up my overarching theme.
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I find this discussion fascinating.
I find what they did brilliant. An alternate reality is the perfect back drop to tie in widely different themes into one cohesive element. An alternate world would not be a monotone, simplistic, and conformed. A convincing alternate reality would have a multitude of regions, designs, lay outs, mythologies, ideologies, and creatures. To have a consistent look to the regions, a consistent creature look, the same beliefs and rituals would make an AR wholly unconvincing.
Thematically speaking, to explore a world one would need to experience the variety of legends and mythos the world has to offer.
With what they had originally wanted and then what they had to create to replace it, it was well done and kept the cohesion.
If you were to create an event with an overarching theme (such as an alternate reality), how would you do it? What is your idea of an overarching theme that won't limit the varieties and differences needed at a haunted event? How would you overcome your creativity being hampered and controlled by others?
Again with what they had, they did a beautiful job of trying to tie everything together.
EDIT: hoping this discussion brings forth some wishful thinking creativity.
What cohesive event theme would you want to see? How would you like A&D to theme an event and bring everything together.
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I think it's 4 time periods. Not 3.
@HorrorNights: This is the maze that involves the different time periods I mentioned yesterday...forgot to mention one....the 1950's. A scary time indeed
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I think what Murdy was saying is that it would be different from California. Maybe he's hinting that this theme has been used in Orlando?
That beings me back around to The Legend of Hell House. We had two houses in Orlando that were loosely based on Hell House in 2010.
Although, if Trickster is Jr. High time frame for him, we are probably looking at 75-79. Hell House was 73, and it was from a book not just strangely inspired by.
I feel like I'm asking and creating more questions than helping. This is my first time trying to decipher his clues, I hope I can help.
Maybe I can tap into his sleep deprived side. I totally get what he's going through right now. I had a baby in June of last year and now my son is teething. So I'm sleep deprived, too. Lol.
Just let me know if I'm totally off track or confusing things.
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Since Murdy stated Trickster was Calispeak. I googled synonyms for trickster.
The Tweet was:
@HorrorNights: @HorrorNights Hmmm....well this is the west coast...if means something different in Calispeak
Actor is a synonym for trickster. Maybe that will help.
EDIT: Besides being a fan of Doctor Who, the Weeping Angel scared the crap out of my husband (first in 12 years of attending that I've seen him jump) that's why I remembered.
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How did tales of terror not meld? Every house worked towards the overall story and there was a fully immersive story to tie them all together with little sub stories for each.
I don't expect everything to jive perfectly (even though in a perfect world they should). But I do expect more than "Hey here is a marketing ploy to make us more popular with the uninitiated."
Have to agree. Each house and scarezone was a location inside of an alternate reality world. The whole event took place in Terra Cruentas. That's a very big tie in. Even when Elsa was foisted upon them, they at least had her telling the tale of Terra Cruentas which kept theming intact.
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The Weeping Angel was in Winter's Night in 2011.Regarding the Dr Who notion, it's interesting that the Weeping Angels were brought up. Orlando's Gothic house (which is officially my favorite HHN house ever) had a scare based on the Weeping Angels. It was not intended to be a tie-in to Dr. Who at all; Gothic had nothing to do with Dr Who.
It was simply a scare that made sense that was based on a couple of characters from the series.
The scare was that you entered a small rotunda with an alcove on each side of you. A life-size statue of a weeping angel is in each alcove. They both look absolutely identical, but one is a prop and the other is a scaractor. The clothing and skin looked exactly like stone. The actor would trigger a sound with their foot and do the accompanying scare.
Since Gothic was part of the daytime behind the scenes tour, I'm sure you can find lots of Youtube video of this.
Trickster was a villain on Doctor Who.
But, The Legend of Hell House came out in the 70s and was based on The book Hell House by Richard Matheson. Further, The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson was very similar to Hell House just tamer. The movie The Haunting was based on Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House
Can't seem to fit all time frames into this guess, though. Victorian, 50's, and Modern, but not Medieval.
Btw, if this is something Murdy grew up with, what would be modern times? The time the movie came out, or are we visiting a structure that stands to this day, or did the original source material show our modern times or has it continued into modern times?
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Mr. Murdy has tweeted some more about the "Big Surprise Maze". It has a code name now.
Tweets:
HorrorNights: Gonna need to come up with a way to refer to the "Big Surprise Maze" as we move forward....can't just keep calling it Big Surprise Maze...
I guess we'll have to give it a code name after all....I'm gonna call this one "Trickster" Will explain more and perhaps drop a hint later..
@HorrorNights Hmmm....well this is the west coast...if means something different in Calispeak
Ignore the fact that he replied to himself. The poor man is sleep deprived and I sympathize with him.
Remember, we have no idea if this maze will be shared with Orlando.
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More wishfully thinking:
Edward Gorey and The Gashleycrumb Tinies!!!!
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Wishful thinking and thoughts about music:
Marilyn jumped the shark years ago. He was trying to be shocking for the sake of shocking.
Disturbing imagery plus good music equals NIN in my opinion.
I want Trent. Trent > Marilyn.
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We would definitely be The Goonies. That would be the whole point in my fangirl world.i don't see how that would be possible since they cannot hire little kids, unless We the guests are the goonies going for the treasure (like walking dead) but without the zombies,
but then who would you have scaring you? the Fratellis? over and over? like every room the Fratellis?
I don't care who scares us. The Fratellis, the giant octopus, ghost pirates.
I just want the sets. I have wanted to be a Goonie since I was 7 or 8.
It's total wishful thinking. Nothing more or less. I don't even think it's possible. But I can dream.
EDIT: To help with a time frame for Murdy growing up.
If he is 46 or 47 then he would have been born in 66 or 67.
Earliest for something released that he could grow up with I would say is 1974. That would put him at 8 at least.
Latest. 1984 or 85 when he would have been about 18.
And now I feel like a stalker because I've dissected his possible age timeline.
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My comment regarding The Goonies as turned into fangirl wishful thinking.
I would love a Goonies house. I wouldn't care if it wasn't scary. Just being able to step into a recreation of it would make me fangasm.
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Every movie listed so far I have seen mentioned in some way.
I would say late 70s early 80s.
Has anyone ever suggested Gremlins or Critters? The Ghoulies?
The Watcher in the Woods? I totally want it to be The Goonies because that would be totally unexpected and could be modified into a haunted house. And I love The Goonies.
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I didn't do the pricing survey, though I probably should.
And yes, the HHN 22 survey was VERYYYYYY LONG! JW and I agreed that we both spent about 3 hours completing it! It was worth it though, and I'm part of the Universal's survey panel or whatever it's called because I think they're fun. So it was worth it to me and I had fun doing it. I as well worked in some criticism but fan-girled over Unearthed and a couple other things. I also mentioned for HHN to push the fright and intensity as far they are aloud to; push the envelope and be more balls-y again. Though I worded it more eloquently then that, haha.
And the new teaser site is interesting. I kind of like it, but it reminds me a bit of 22....and we all don't want another site like 22s...... *shudders*
I did not get these surveys and I'm part of the panel as well.
Where are my surveys?
*angrily refreshes her email accounts*
) They make people complain.
Halloween Horror Nights 23 Wishful Thinking
in Halloween Horror Nights 23
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I asked above, in case I was missing something as well.
The only significant thing I can see is:
"On select nights in September and October, your worst nightmares will take shape as Universal Studios Florida® theme park is transformed into the award-winning Halloween Horror Nights®."
This seems to confirm the event will take place inside the Studios.