[Frequent Fear Passes 2017]

8 hours ago, Pandry said:

 

I miss when they were $17 for a Wednesday night.

 

 

You don't work in UO Marketing by chance, do you?  While I do see the logic in your statement and (while I still think it's expensive), I do see the value in the FFP, I don't think saying any theme park is ever justified in their pricing, works out in the end.  That makes you their # 1 target audience member.  You'll pay and thank them.  But you could still keep the same logic but also hold them to a higher standard.  That way they don't stay on the current road they're headed and start repeating houses every year while raking in more profit.  It's possible the ticket hikes in the past couple years paid for Volcano Bay.

 

PS: I'm truly not typing this trying to be a dick so please don't read it as such.  I've been going for years.  I pay each year.  Bitch about it.  But also have fun which is why I keep going.  The event is just starting to reach true "Corporate" level.  I don't want it to tip over.

Hey! No I definitely do not work for UO in any capacity and I definitely don't think you're being a dick, thanks for advancing the conversation! Sorry if this is long, I just dont want to state an opposing opinion without proper explanation and clarification. 

 

That being said, I would like to address a few of your points, because even though I understand what you are saying, you are missing some key issues:

 

-Supply and demand justifies market value for both sides, in this case UO and attendees.  We all all obviously the #1 fans of HHN, but we are NOT the target audience for the people who determine ticket prices.  Like you and I said, there is tremendous value in the FF passes, but the VAST majority of passes bought are single night tickets. Because of that, Mike Aiello and the HHN Creative Team might come up with all the ideas, and put all the fun into it, but the higher Executive Team at UO and Hollywood make the final calls.  Everything revolves around money and marketability to the people who spend the most (bringing in properties instead of IP's), and that is not the people on this board who care the most.

 

-The prices for the the FFP, FFP+ etc. (as well as any product in the world) are predominantly determined by cost of goods, demand, consumer market and economy. Basically, the cost of running HHN is high, the demand is high, the USA is 1/4 of the world's economy (and like it or not we are killing it right now), and there is no other competitor in Orlando (HOS has been making money too but it's more like 3:1 in favor of UO... think of it like Disney vs. UO in the 90's).  THAT justifies their price increases the past few years, not mine, your's or anyone else's opinion.  As long as we buy it and the other current conditions are stable, they will keep on raising it.  Also, it's important to realise by having the passes so high and main gate prices high, they are able to sell many discounted tickets per Coke products, Burger King etc. 

 

  -Even though HHN brings in significant revenue, Harry Potter paid for Volcano Bay, and the recent land purchase off I-Drive/Sand Lake.

 

-I know my place, and I know HHN will never get more scary than it is now, and (thinking optimistically) will only get marginally more creative over the years.  They have the $$$, power, and creative force to be better than Netherworld, be the greatest Gore Fest ever... but they never will be and we should not expect them to be.  They want families to come, they want to sell add-on tickets to tourists in the park that morning.  Yes, hardcore horror fans made HHN what it is today, but higher ups took notice decades ago and now steer the ship my friend.  I'm not trying to sound like a dick, but if you think that that HHN is NOT 'Cooperate' already, you're jaded and naive. 

 

- If Mike Aiello told his boss he needs an extra $500,000 to make this year bigger and better than the proposed budge, do you think he would get it?  No he wouldn't. He does NOT have final say on the budget and has to work with what is given to him, and he stretches the $$$ as far as he can and does a great job with it!  Obviously, every year the budget increases, but it hasn't caught up with the massive crowd spike/increase from 10 years ago.

 

I hope this helps a bit, sorry again if was long, but I feel like the points justified some explanation! 

[HHN 27 Speculation]

2 minutes ago, StupidStupidDan said:

That movie looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Groundhog's day slasher flick? Yes, please!

 

It's also coming out on Friday, October 13th. I wouldn't doubt it if they at least did some sort of special appearance that night. That baby mask guy is pretty chilling. 

Yea I'm super stoked for it! I hope they have some midnight releases, just think, HHN from 7-11:30 and then movie at Citywalk?! Yes please!

[Frequent Fear Passes 2017]

I'm not frustrated at the ticket markup, I think it's totally justified by UO... I mean they add more nights, keep growing the mazes/props/actors etc., and bring it almost every night! If you pay $350 for the FFP w/ Express (which is what I got) and go every night it's $16/night! If you go just 15 times it's still $23/night, weeeeeelllll worth it!Try and carpool w/ a friend who has a UO pass and you can have a great night with lasting memories, soiled pants and bloodshot eyes for under $40 easy (assuming you drink and eat at HHN). Or, look at the FFP+ for $120 which is $4 A NIGHT (28 NIGHTS OF FEAR)!!! Just my 2 cents.

[HHN 27 Speculation]

Has anyone talked about BH new movie 'Happy Death Day' coming out this year? It seems they're backing the movie with heavy distribution and advertising thinking it'll be the next 'Get Out' (#4 grossing horror movie @ $175M per IMDB)... maybe that could be in the BH house?! I wouldn't be opposed to it