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@ GrindHouse - Thanks!!
I hope so!@ Rides - What was the clue about movie posters? I missed that one.
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Been doing a little "googling", working on Pumpkin (what little there is to go on), and based on the widely shared speculations;
- It will be an original maze (no IP attached), and;
- Involvement this year by Guillermo Del Toro;
I offer the following original maze:
El Cuco
El Coco, or el Cuco
Though perhaps the story itself originated in Almería, Spain, El Hombre del Saco is well known throughout Latin America, as there are many versions of the tale. According to a Spanish legend, Francisco Ortega, aka el Moruno, was a man sick with tuberculosis at the beginning of the XXth century. He was desperately looking for a cure for the disease, so he sought help from a Curandera. She told him he would be cured by drinking the blood of children and rubbing his fat on his chest. And so, el Moruno kidnapped a 7-year old boy,Bernardo, in a cloth bag, to slit his underarm and drink his blood. El Cuco is known for walking up and down the streets at night with a black bag, scouting for those children who roam the streets or misbehave. There’s that “Duermete niño, duermete ya; que viene el cuco, y te comerá!” that many of you may or may not have heard as kids. Oh also, in espanglish zones such as some border regions of Mexico he is known as El Sacomán. Way to modernize El Cuco, that’s better than any DJ name.
(from http://www.remezcla.com/2012/latin/top-5-latino-halloween-legends-and-monsters/ )
El Coco/Cuco[edit source | editbeta]Main article: CucoEl Coco (also El Cuco and Cucuy, sometimes called El Bolo) is a monster common to many Spanish-speaking countries.
In Spain, parents will sing lullabies or tell rhymes to children, warning them that if they do not sleep, El Coco will come and get them. The rhyme originated in the 17th century has evolved over the years, but still retains its original meaning. Coconuts (Spanish: coco) received that name because their brownish hairy surface reminded Portuguese explorers of coco, a ghost with a pumpkin head. Latin America also has El Coco, although its folklore is usually quite different, commonly mixed with native beliefs, and, because of cultural contacts, sometimes more related to the bogeyman of the United States. However, the term El Coco is also used in Spanish-speaking Latin American countries, such as Bolivia, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, El Salvador, the Dominican Republic and Uruguay, although there it is more usually called El Cuco, as in Puerto Rico, Chile and Argentina. In Mexico and among Mexican-Americans, El Cucuy is portrayed as an evil monster that hides under children's bed at night and kidnaps or eats the child that does not obey his/her parents or go to sleep when it is time to do so. However, the Spanish American bogeyman does not resemble the shapeless or hairy monster of Spain: social sciences professor Manuel Medrano says popular legend describes El cucuy as a small humanoid with glowing red eyes that hides in closets or under the bed. 'Some lore has him as a kid who was the victim of violence ... and now he’s alive, but he’s not,' Medrano said, citing Xavier Garza's 2004 book Creepy Creatures and other Cucuys."[6]
(fro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_man#Sack_Man)
And I believe the "oldie but a goodie" Scare Zone will be The Dark Streets of London. It fits with Black Sabbath's maze, and it last appeared in 2008.
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"@HorrorNights It was, wasn't it? Plague doctors are creepy."
"@JoshtopusRex Yes they are, aren't they. Might see something like that this year...."
Black sabbath? Pumpkin?
Yeah! I just checked in with Twitter and squee'd with fangirl joy when I saw Murdy had actually read and responded about my plague theory for Trickster!!
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@HorrorNights Can't believe how off I was on Trickster,but it all fit so well! Detailed analysis: http://bit.ly/15CEgz3 Next time, Murdy!
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@Midtowngirl916 Interesting...well I am fairly obsessed with the Black Death and the 1918 flu pandemic claimed my great grandfather...hmmm
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@HorrorNights @Midtowngirl916 If the stars are ever right you have to do something with the black plague sometime.
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@JoshtopusRex Yes they are, aren't they. Might see something like that this year....
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@JoshtopusRex @HorrorNights @Midtowngirl916 here's a photo of the '06 scarezone "PYTHON'Z PLAGUE" pic.twitter.com/Bq2kgdEfvy
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I updated my Google map with the construction zones and known mazes/ locations. Please edit/ add as you see fit!
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Surfer type is most likely the blonde guy from ED...
Btw Rides, I <3 your new avatar!!! Esss tooo cutez!
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I updated my Google map with the construction zones and known mazes/ locations. Please edit/ add as you see fit!
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Here's an image of new York street and surounding areas
Thought this was a great idea, so I create a new, public "my map" in google and opened it up for collaboration.
I've shared a map with you called HHN 2013 Speculation:http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=201705594458971612165.0004e35f5cb534c3d06f4oops link broke - try thisYou should be able to add yourself, if not, lemme know. =) -
Hey guys, I think it may be time to continue this discussion in a new thread - the interface keeps kicking me back to the very first page after I post.
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And this is kind of funny considering my comments about KISS here:
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Kiss UNDEAD 2. Zombie catmen lurking about, corpses damned to rock and roll all night...scary stuff.
Hey iv been reading on this site for many years but just created an account so hello everyone! Anyways.. I was wondering if anyone could make a map of the park noting where we all think this years mazes will be located including the sound stage and new York street area and the tram route or possible new route.
If it's too much to ask that's fine I just thought it would be a good reference to a lot of the speculation for locations and TWD TT maze combo
Im gonna take a shot at making my own map using google maps screen shots and park maps from the brochuresWelcome and grats on the jump from "lurker" to contributor, and great first contribution to the discussion!
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Post Trickster reveal, I tweeted back to Murdy about the some of the clues, including an invite and link to read my (totally incorrect, but dammit it all fits!) analysis in this thread. Here's the more interesting exchanges:
Murdy: I also said something about this maze reminds me of a holiday tradition. That would be a NATIVITY scene...as in NATIVITY IN BLACK...Me: @HorrorNights "... I think of a holiday tradition, albeit a dark one." Bad hint, Murdy! Bad Hint!!Me: @HorrorNights Coulda phrased more like, "dark take on holiday tradition.." and saved me hours researching traditions with "dark" roots...Me: @HorrorNights like this: I discovered that origin legend for kissing under the mistletoe involves the death of a Norse god named BaldurMurdy: @Midtowngirl916 Well think of how you've now enriched your life with that knowledge. I didn't know that legend.Me: @HorrorNights , who was killed by a dart made of mistletoe. Who flung the dart? Baldur's bro, Loki, the TRICKSTER God. Arghhh....Murdy: @Midtowngirl916 I follow your logic with Loki. I studied Nordic Mythology when I was an exchange student in Europe many moons ago--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Me: @HorrorNights What of the cryptic tweets about 2 flights, viewing devices, and posting in Swedish? How do they fit?Murdy: @Midtowngirl916 it was 2 flights in 1 day, 1 there 1 back, viewing devices = 3D glasses. Swedish was a red herring -
Hey, I've followed this forum for a long time now so I decided to create an account finally. I'm suck at the whole researching the codenames, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Since a lot of people are believing "Trickster" may be music based I thought I would try to link it to a band that is very horror based, The Misfits.
The Misfits have many songs that could relate to the time zones given, such as Earth AD for medieval times and Return of the fly for the 50's. Glenn Danzig's lyrics are very dark so that would be able to connect to the "Very Dark" subject matter. I don't know when Murdy went to elementary school so I can't link that to anything. In the song Halloween, they talk about apples with razor blades in them which would make sense for a dark holiday tradition sense back people would give trick 'r' treaters apples with razor blades in them. The song London Dungeon takes place in London, England which is also the name of a city in Ohio. And as for the Johnny Cash connection, in 1994 Glenn Danzig wrote the song "Thirteen" for Johnny Cash to use.
Just wanted to say thanks for sharing your ideas, Congrats on finally jumping into the fray, and Welcome to the board!
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As much as I would love to see a house finally dedicated to the gay community, Kiss: Haunted Bathhouse doesn't really appeal to me.
Fan: so is this an original maze or is it still based off a movie/tv show/
Literally lol'd
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I would if I lived in LA.
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OT for a micro-sec: I just took the plunge and am now officially a DREAM MAKER!!!!
<---------- See?!?!
Resuming topic in 3, 2, 1.....
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And yes, in case you were wondering... In addition to being the "master of unlocking", Jill can Google like a mofo.
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And for the record - Honestly, I love Ozzy. I thought the Alice maze last year was fun. And although I worshiped KISS when I was 12, they don't do jack for me these days.
I really am just trying to interpret clues here, not promote a maze or IP I'd like (RESIDENT EVIL! RESIDENT EVIL!!!!!) -
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So, Horror Lover asked me how I came up with KISS, and I thought maybe I should share w/ everyone, just for kicks and giggles..
Going back to my whole "virus" thingie - and like I said before, I have no idea where all that epidemic stuff ties in, it's just where the cllues took me... but anywaaay.. So contagious viruses... Mononucleosis (the Kissing disease)...
And then, the clue about a "dark" holiday tradition? Googling around, I discovered that origin legend for kissing under the mistletoe involves the death of a Norse god named Baldur, who was killed by a dart made of mistletoe. Who flung the dart? Baldur's bro,.... Loki, the Trickster God. So, there ya have it - if nothing else, some really cool trivia about mistletoe.
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Wee bit scarier than gramps Ozzy or Harriet (I mean Alice!)..
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You guys, what if it is yet another aging rocker (band) that we haven't mentioned? One that can be tied to the virus theme I offered up earlier? Think mono... Think, the KISSing disease.... Think, KISSing under the mistletoe... Their leader is a demon, after all...
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i dont think so, theres no cccllaawwss
looks like a gauntlet to me.
Found this close match - it's supposed to be cosplay gloves for a Metal Gear Solid 1 Cyborg Ninja
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Okay, you guys have blown away most of my "sleuthing"
, but I still say the facade for Trickster will look like this (more or less).-
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So I decided to try to do some 'net sleuthing on the Trickster clues, and I ended up in a totally different place than I expected to go. The whole lot of it sounds a bit out there, but everything seems to fit... nicely, even.
Lemme know whatcha all think...
Ahem,
Trickster clues:- Set in four different time periods: 1950's, early 20th century, medieval period, and the Victorian era
- Something Murdy grew up with
- Has never been suggested in the last seven years HHN has been going on
- "Very Dark" subject matter
- "One of the scenes in this maze was inspired by something we had to do in elementary school when I was a kid. They don't do it anymore"
- "Something about this maze reminds me of a holiday tradition. Its a pretty standard one...well for most people"
- "For those who like to speculate...here's a hint. When I think of the theme of this maze I think of a holiday tradition, albeit a dark one...
- The maze has the name of a city that is in both England and the US
- Facade for the house "was inspired (BASED) by a real location...that location is in France. Its one of the time periods I mentioned."
My Solutions
I might skip a couple of clues as they are listed here, and instead list them as I hit 'em (following my train of thought ):- Set in four different time periods: 1950's, early 20th century, medieval period, and the Victorian era:
First thing I wanted to figure out - what do these time periods have in common?
- Medieval period (also called the Middle Ages), 500 - 1500 AD: Bubonic Plague (also called "Black Death");
- Victorian Era, June 1837 - Jan 1901: Cholera epidemic
- Early 20th century: The 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic
- 1950's: Polio
- Something Murdy grew up with:
- Fear of needles? Fear of germs?
- "Very Dark" subject matter :
- Viral epidemics? Pandemic? ....Black Death? And probably has never been suggested as a maze "in the last seven years HHN has been going on", either.
- "One of the scenes in this maze was inspired by something we had to do in elementary school when I was a kid. They don't do it anymore":
- You young pups among us probably aren't aware, but we used to have get our immunizations at school
- "Something about this maze reminds me of a holiday tradition. Its a pretty standard one...well for most people", and also,
"For those who like to speculate...here's a hint. When I think of the theme of this maze I think of a holiday tradition, albeit a dark one..."- Hmmm, Black Friday, maybe?
- The maze has the name of a city that is in both England and the US:
- Well, it seemed that every town in the UK has a US counterpart, but one had a maze-worthy ring to it: Cross Hill (sometimes spelled Crosshill, depending on the web site!). Keeping to our developing theme, Cross Hill was the site of the Typhoid Fever outbreak of May 1875 (Victorian era).
- Facade for the house "was inspired (BASED) by a real location...that location is in France. Its one of the time periods I mentioned.":
- Between France under the Black Plague and France under the Spanish Flu, there are a bazillion choices. I'm throwing the dice and choosing the Army Hospital (military BASE) at Brest (I can hear you guys now....she said "brest", lulz!). Which was a major site of the Spanish Flu. So, yeah....
So, there's the official clues... and now to tie it in with Murdy's most recent tweets about going to see HIM, taking the two flights, etc.:
Hint: "Viewing device"
Could it be a microscope, as in, to view virus germs and stuff?
Hint: The replies in Swedish
Could be a hint about who he is going to see, maybe.....
Hint: IP might be a movie based on a book.....
So, I finally rolled it all up into this question:Q: What famous Director has made a movie based on a book, about a virus pandemic, and whose last name is of Swedish origin?
A: Steven Soderbergh (Contagion)
Make of it what you will.....And yes, I am still hoping against all hope that this somehow comes back to tie in to the T-virus!!! =p
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I heard that the next code name to be announced will be Trickster.
Just to clarify...I'm not trying to say I think that Brianb14 is right about the codename - I just remembered someone mentioning Tiptoe Through the Tulips. In other words, I have no eyeball what means what but thought the connections were interesting, anyway.
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Perhaps interesting, but funny to my sleep-deprived brain, tangent...
I decided to look into the clue there's "a song originally recorded in 1881..." and found that Ring Around the Rosie was originally published in 1881.
A search on Ring Around the Rosie turned up these results:
From a shocktillyoudrop article,
Insidious Director James Wan Finds More Actors for The Warren FilesNEWSby Ryan TurekFebruary 08, 2012Hayley McFarland and Shanley Caswell have joined the cast of James Wan's The Warren Files, the latest supernatural thriller to come from the director of Saw and Insidious.Variety reports the two will play the older siblings of the Perrons, a family who believes their home is a gateway for the dead.
Ron Livingston, Lili Taylor, Mackenzie Foy and Joey King play the remaining Perron family members. Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga star as Ed and Lorraine Warren, the real-life supernatural investigators called in to help the Perrons out.
McFarland first starred in the direct-to-DVD horror film Ring Around the Rosie and later appeared on Lie to Me. Shanley Caswell will be seen in the upcoming Detention.
And from the Urban Dictionary:Ring Around the Rosie: An insidious game that drives one to near the brink of insanity. But ultimately proves to be ones salvation.One goes Ring Around the Rosie, till one falls down .Exactly how I'm feeling right about now.-
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I hope so!
Here's an image of new York street and surounding areas
Halloween Horror Nights (Hollywood) 2013 Speculation/Predictions
in Halloween Horror Nights Hollywood 2013
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Here's more on El Cuco http://www.hispanic-culture-online.com/el-cuco.html#axzz2bP7DPdvX
And Del Toro would be perfect for the imagery. Take a look at the trailer for his movie The Orphanage - http://youtu.be/Y6KK8W1TpHs
The movie in its entirety is also on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ybsd9NqV4