Kreepshowtosh
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2007 was absolutely selling you those movies. The only difference was they were selling you an old DVD instead of a new one. It was still a studio using the event to make money. New Line gave the green light to Universal to use their characters because it would move DVDs and merch. After you went in 2007, did you buy those DVDs? Did you buy merch with those characters on it? When the remakes come out, did see them? When you saw them, did you think of HHN when deciding to buy your ticket? If you said "yes" to any of those, the advertising worked.
Ads on the corners of each house? That's not there. Have you even gone this year? What are you basing this claim off of?
Hellraiser isn't used because most of the people that go to the event don't care about it. As much as I loved the first film, I can't even care about seeing it. All of the sequels were awful and it's been a DTV series for the past 13 years. Trick R Treat has huge awareness issues, not to mention it's just hard to get the rights to movies depending on who owns them, especially if they have connections to other parks.
I already saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake before Horror Nights even used it. I didn't buy any of the merchandise after I attended 2007. I thought it was cool to see the 3 characters there. But that wasn't the main reason why I came to Horror Nights in the first place. I came there because of Jack the Clown and the Carnival of Carnage theme. I'm a story man and I always will be, but hey, different strokes here. Believe me, I have gone this year, dude. Well, what I mean by "Ads on the corners," I mean them being placed in the corner of each house listed on the website as well as on corners of the banners. (Ex: The Walking Dead Season Premiere Oct. 14th) Well, there you go, it's not an event for horror fans anymore, it's for the general public.
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Scream
Evil Dead
Resident Evil
Nightmare on Elm Street
Friday The 13th
Halloween
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
American Werewolf
Trick r Treat
Exorcist
Silent Hill
The Thing
and only 4 of them have not been at Hollywood and only 2 of them have not been mazes and those two have not been mazes cuz of Warner Brothers not Murdy partnering with AMC.
I don't know how many times I need say this Halloween Horror Nights is an Halloween event at a major theme park owned by a major movie studios which has alway been about "Bringing Movies to Life" I don't get where this entitlement is coming from with everybody. I respect your opions that you don't like a year but come on all this HHN is selling out crap is just ridiculus it's like saying McDonalds sold out cuz they add tomato to the McDouble. HHN has been a tie in to something since 2007 and hey even if they picked a movie we all agree on guess what? that would be tied into something. and not trying to offend but 2011 is the year that was the least relevant to anything, the only real thing was The Thing and to a lesser extent Alice Cooper. Hostil, HOTC and Wolfman were all old at that point and La Llorona was not connected to anything. The Terror Tram's success or lack of has nothing to do with ads they have had ads since 2007 unless dont know why everyone forgets about the wolfman trailer and footage they play for 3 years straight, Saw was as big an ad as Walking Dead, and the story telling is not lost there is just no ending cuz everyone hated the mummy tunnle which ended the TT story they the two years they tryed to end it without the Mummy Tunnle it failed cuz there was no real way to end it without some sort of device.
Simple you don't like Ip mazes there are tons of other haunts that dont use IPs
Oh, believe me, I've been to other haunts that don't use IPs. I never said I don't like IPs. I just dislike how they are using it nowadays in this direction. Well, I never thought that the 2007 event had indication that it was tie-in to a certain advertisement. I mean, there wasn't an indication that they were advertising something to me (I never saw the ads on the corners of each house.) That's why I love that year so much because it was a genuine Halloween event, most well-themed one. Alice Cooper back in 2011 was promoting his new album, "Welcome 2 My Nightmare" and House of 1000 Corpses was advertised last minute for The Lords of Salem. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up posters of "Machete Kills" all other the walls in the queue of El Cucuy. (I wasn't even surprised that they posted an ad about that movie on their FB page anyway.)
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What IPs are really wanted?
Well, any property we throw at them, begging them to turn that property into a house (Hellraiser, Trick 'r Treat, The Cabin in the Woods, etc.) Just any IP that we want individually for a house. It doesn't really matter at this point now because they won't be used until a movie is released one year or a DVD release or whatever.
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Ever since 2011, Halloween Horror Nights Hollywood, from what I'm seeing and noticing, has started to become more of a giant tie-in commercial. What I mean by that is that every property that's been part of this event is promoted for a certain movie, TV show, etc. one way or another. It is not about the horror fans anymore as it is geared more towards celebrities and advertisements. And because of that, I don't believe we'll ever be seeing any IPs that we really want to see being turned into a house. I mean, does it really matter at that point? Universal no longer chooses brand-name franchises on the basis of what makes the best house, rather, the main goal is to turn HHN into a huge commercial. The Terror Tram is no longer about telling a story about mayhem that goes on in the backlot as it now a tool, showing promotional footage of a TV show (ex: The Walking Dead) or movie (ex: Scream 4.)
How do you guys feel about this direction that Horror Nights has been going? And... Go.
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Weeeeell, idk, last year had a theme. An okay one that was small, but still a theme.
Maniac klownz were on a killing spree during Horror Nights and their victims were coming back to life, while the dead from Atlanta have also migrated to Hollywood and onto the backlot. That's what I got from the opening scaramony anyway.
No, it didn't. If had a theme, then there should've been a coherent story. Klownz and the zombies both at Hollywood, they don't make any sense besides the fact they're both horror, that's it. There was no rhyme or reason why they were both there..
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I'm sorry to break it to you guys but there will never ever be a theme for Hollywood's event anytime soon. As popular as it is right now, there will not be one anymore. And before you ask, "Well, how do you know?" I known, ever since 2011, Hollywood is going the opposite direction. This year 2013 is not gonna have a theme, and there will be no theme at all just like the past 4 years now. So there you go.
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Alright, I'll change the word "veteran" to "fan." I hope that makes you happy. Here you go, I just changed it. ^
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Alright, here you go, here are the grades I can give.
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Now, before I get to my dissection of this year's event, I am here to inform you that this is coming from a HHN fan who's been going to this event since 2007 and I'm pretty sure you will know what will come down to when it comes to that. So, here it is:
So I went to HHN on the 5th of October and got my FOL pass and got to the front gate and was let in first before the general. After the opening ceremony, I started with the new mazes in the front of the park first (Alice Cooper Goes to Hell and then The Walking Dead), before heading down to the Lower Lot for Silent Hill & Texas Chainsaw Massacre.) This worked well as we were able to get through those 4 mazes, in approximately 40 minutes, without using my pass, which was useful for revisiting the mazes later on that evening.
So here’s my review of HHN Hollywood 2012. I will be sharing some highlights and my overall opinions from my own experiences. Also, having been to HHN multiple times over the past few years, I had quite a few expectations.
ALICE COOPER GOES TO HELL 3D:
As an Alice Cooper fan myself, I really LOVED Welcome to My Nightmare and it turned out it was big hit (Yay Alice!) So this year, I had expectations for this new maze since it was an actual sequel haunted house. Of course, I liked what they were going for with this house going through the levels of Hell themed to the Seven Deadly Sins, inspired by the poem, Dante's Inferno and each room exhibited each sin. Now, after I been through the fiery abyss, I found Alice's nightmare to be scarier then his Hell. There were too many scenes with the actors acting out the sins and there a few shocks. And it seemed like they toned down the setting quite a bit (there were black walls) just for the visual 3D effects.
3/10
THE WALKING DEAD: DEAD INSIDE:
“Season Premiere, Sunday, Oct 14th on AMC” This became obvious since they done this haunted house to promote the 3rd season (which they promoted that property like HELL!) It's been a while since we had a house based on a television show since Buffy the Vampire Slayer and it was Universal's first time to actually do a zombie-based haunted house. Of course, the setting took me to the post-apocalyptic world of The Walking Dead TV show, recognized some of the scenes and the characters. And then I noticed that a few set pieces were reused from previous mazes such as The Thing and Friday the 13th. I was kind of a bit worried that they would be using the same“strobe-and-sound startle” scare effect for this one, which I felt it kind of ruined the experience of actually being in the middle of a zombie apocalypse scenario and the scares then became predictable. I mean, that type of scare makes sense for a haunted house based off a serial killer such as Michael Myers, but for zombies, it just doesn't. But I would have to give credit for HHN's makeup. And another plus I can give was that I got to see Norman Reedus outside of the facade, enough said.
8/10
WELCOME TO SILENT HILL:
I have played the games and seen the movie and since I missed the chance of experiencing the maze that Sinister Pointe did back in 2009, I thought it would be good chance to go through HHN's take on that property. The house begins by crossing through the portal of pain from Fog World to Otherworld, which stayed true to the Silent Hill mythos. There were some cool effects such as the appearing and disappearing Alessa and seeing the recognizable characters such the Nurses, the Bogeyman, Colin the Janitor, Robbie the Rabbit, and of course, Pyramid Head. There were some interesting special effects used, such as the flashlight effect. Now, here is my criticism: it seems they got carried away using the sh!t smell effect throughout the entire haunted house. It also felt like the scenes were repeated over and over, which felt like being stuck on the same level of the games. And they did tone quite a bit with the setting, especially for Robbie the Rabbit. It didn't have any feel of being in the amusement park besides the scent of cotton candy and, well, Robbie the Rabbit. And also, Pyramid Head is not a pop out scare, he's more of a "Oh crap, he's coming slowly towards me with his Great Knife!" He walks slowly because of the weight of his helmet and his Knife. I could tell that the scareacters who played Pyramid Head were probably old scareacters from the previous haunted houses the previous years.
7/10
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE SAW IS THE LAW:
"God I hate that tag line." Anyways, so they brought back Texas Chainsaw Massacre but this time, based on the Tobe Hooper original. It was made for the sake of promoting the new film that's coming out next year (which I found it pretty iffy that they brought it back this year instead of next year.) Now, when it comes to the original film, it is a gritty and disturbing piece of cinema with a very realistic tone and it's challenging to keeping that same tone for a haunted house because the 70s was different back then in the days of those grainy films. It was visually a great tribute to the original, with some of the recognizable scenes and characters such as Old Man (Drayton), the Hitchhiker, Grandpa, and of course, Leatherface, who wore different grotesque masks. There was only one scene that wasn't featured and that one was the girl hanging from a meat hook. Also, the scare actors seem to be busy exhibiting the terrible things they're doing to others instead of scaring the guests. I remember when TCM first hit Horror Nights back in 2007, and THAT one was a was an intense experience. There was just a constant feeling of threat and menace in the maze which unfortunately was not replicated in this version (which I already knew from the beginning.) Here, it seemed to be a display of horror, rather than an experience of it. So, it was cool visually, but just not that scary in my opinion.
6/10
LA LLORONA: LA CAZADORA DE NINOS:
This house was another repeat that I was kind of worried about, pretty skeptical of how much they changed it and how different it could be from last year. While there were some portions of the house were used from last year, there were some good additions to make it feel like a fresh experience. This years "La Llorona" explores what it would be like to enter the nightmare of a child and the creative team decides to use big props for this one. Of course, some of the big puppeteer costumes were reused from The Thing last year. This maze pretty much cranked up another level and made the Weeping Woman angrier and scarier.
8/10
UNIVERSAL MONSTERS REMIX:
I really hated this idea when it was first announced. Classic Monsters meets modern music (Dubstep)? I wasn't quite sure how it was going to work, but at least Universal tried something different and I can give them that. Once I went through, it wasn't as bad as I anticipated (but it still wasn't that great.) The maze is still nothing more than an overlay of the year round daytime attraction, the House of Horrors. Inside the maze, it felt like one huge club environment which almost feels like as if the Classic Monsters were having a Halloween rave party. But due to the “club” lighting, it’s very hard for the scareactors to hide, and the scares in this maze are also predictable. I wasn't impressed or scared by this maze, but I'd still give it a plus for the Go-Go dancing Bride of Frankenstein (who looks like Lily Munster) - lol.
2/10
TERROR TRAM: INVADED BY THE WALKING DEAD:
For old HHN stalkers (like myself), the Terror Tram has become a flatlined attraction. Despite having different themes, the Terror Tram always ends up being the exact same experience and being in the same location year after year. It felt like I was in line again - 2 times (at the Bates Motel & near the Psycho House) - just like back in the line area at the park. Give coming straight to the point: it sucked.. enough said.
1/10
SCARE ZONES:
None of these were memorable or scary. They seemed to be more of an afterthought for this year. They could've done alot with a few of the scare zones such as Silent Hill. They could've added more monsters/characters from Silent Hill and incorporated that into the zone but instead, all there was was Pyramid Head, a few Nurses and the Bogeyman, and there just little to no wisps of fog, which barely qualifies as a "zone." As for Klownz, they could've packed up their big top and hit the road to some other town and have The Walking Dead invade the street (which would've been a good transition from the house to the scare zone. You could've done alot with the WD property.)
1/10
OVERALL
This was fun year for HHN, but just not the best one in my opinion. HHN Hollywood still offers high-quality mazes, with lighting, music, props, and special effects. It kind of feels as if they placed new titles on some of the old mazes. This year was a 'baby step better,' and what I mean by that is that we had something different down the Mummy queue (since that property has been known for houses with scenes of people being tortured, body parts and blood splatters), a video game based haunted house, a sequel house, and a zombie house. My main concern is that as the years go on, HHN will become more and more of the same with recurring themes, scenery, and scares. I'm getting so used to the formula that Hollywood has been using, which is the distraction scare, "sound-and-strobe light" scare, that it just becomes predictable and it seems to being the typical monster popping out of a dark corner and the hanging bodies don't do anything to me anymore, it's just "whatever." And I also notice the same gags that they have done such as a person being cut in half or seeing someone having the face peeled off and I'm not kidding, I seen them do those gags every, single year. I really hope that in the next coming years, HHN becomes more innovative with their scare tactics and try something different for a change and not overuse a scent for the entire house (Man, TCM smelled awful in there because of that.)
Also, what I notice is that HHN never creates a complete atmosphere of their haunt across the park as the scare zones are isolated to certain areas of the park and they don't put any effort into dressing them up and there are certain areas where it just felt empty.
So that's my review of HHN Hollywood 2012 and I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you for your time.
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I felt that it was challenging to keep the same tone the original did. The original film was very gritty and made seem real and made the definition of 'horror' and its hard to replicate that feeling in a haunted house. And I felt that it was hard for the actors in the maze to even replicate the way the actors from the original were. The actors in the original ma
kes you feel as if they really are crazy in real life. The maze was last minute and the setting seemed a bit toned down. The scent in there was just awful and they used it in the ENTIRE maze. The scares were also predictable. So, compared to the one in 2007 and this one, I preferred the terrifying experience I had in the '07 maze. It's just sad when you think about it, a remake version beats the original version. Well, at least, since we finally got a maze based on a Tobe Hooper film, hopefully they might do a maze based on another Tobe Hooper film, "The Funhouse."
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When it comes to haunted attractions, we have experienced them with these standard themes (Horror movies, hillbilly cannibals, torture, etc.), How do you feel about the theme of vintage, traditional Halloween?
For me, I love the vintage Halloween theme, because it stays true to the traditional feel of the holiday. Don't get me wrong but as much as I love haunted houses with all of these different themes, the iconography and spirit of Halloween itself can sometimes be lost in a maze of cannibal butchers and killer clowns.
So, what do you think about the eerie, traditional October themes that would be incorporated into a haunted house?
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I would not recommend going to the mazes in the back. I mean, yes, nobody is there at the Lower Lot, but once you climb back to the Upper lot, that is when the mazes there get packed. So the best way to do is to work Front to Back, if only you have arrived early. I would suggest going on the rides and shows for last once you've gone to all the mazes. Mazes/houses are the main attraction.
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HHN Hollywood 2014 Speculation
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I think it might be a possibility seeing Walking Dead again, but at the same time, Resident Evil will be having a new movie, so there would have to be a decision made. I mean, I don't think you can do both houses that have the same theme (which is, of course, zombies.) I think Hollywood even proved that in 2013 that you can't do it.
I still doubt that we will be having a Paranormal Activity house because, again, it probably won't work.
As for original houses, I think one of them will most likely be an music artist/band-based house, and obviously, it has to be 3D.
and for another original house, it also have to do with an urban legend, continuing on the trend after La Llorona and El Cucuy. I'm not quite sure if El Cucuy might return, but that just came to mind, and there might be a possibility that it will return.
I know for sure that The Purge scarezone will be returning for another year because of the sequel that will be coming out.
There might be a possibility that we might be seeing Eli Roth collaborate again with having The Green Inferno as a house. I don't know for sure, I don't know if there's that many environments or whatever that's worthy of a haunted house but that's just my guess.
As for the shows, I don't think we'll won't be having any shows at all. I mean, we don't know for sure if Bill & Ted will be returning. I mean, of course, Universal got the licensing to Bill & Ted and all, but I don't think it means that they can do whatever they want with it. Even if they did bring back Bill & Ted, would it be the same? Would it have to be toned down? I don't know.
And of course, there might be a possibility of Universal Monsters Remix returning. (What can I say?)
I doubt that will ever have an original icon like The Director or Jack again. Considering the direction that the event has gone (from a themed event to a mixbag event), I doubt we'll be seeing stand-out characters like them any time soon.