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Those metal clothes hangers work wonders as well.
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Besides, they already announced all shared properties. :-)
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The problem I see is that Hollywood might get a really awesome house, It might do great and we will be left with the sloppy seconds again...Look at the Cooper house, Hollywood's house from what I saw online looked nice. Orlando's house was nowhere near as good.The actors did a really great job in that house but the house itself sucked. There was nothing awesome about the house itself. Nothing was really that great.Again, the Actors totally saved the house for me, but I would be worried that a Black Sabbath house would suffer the same fate here as far as sets, costumes go.
Sloppy seconds? Hollywood did their version and Orlando did theirs, has nothing to do with "sloppy seconds". I know i know what some are going to say, #It's marketing's fault# because creative can never do no wrong and are victims of the tyrany of marketting, and hate working on ip's because they are artists yada yada yada. Right?
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Somebody looks bitter.I must be in the minority in hating house based on washed up rockers. -
Interesting.
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I thought AC was a good house, and not only because i'm an alice cooper fan, but the house itself was pretty cool. It's hillarious to hear some sa "they tried their best with what they're given" phrase. Like if they gave them a cardboard box and a can lol.
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Alice cooper was one of my favorite houses last year. We may not have Black Sabbath this year, but don't be surprised if it makes it's way to Orlando next year, and I for one will be looking forwaed to it if it happens.Couldn't be more excited that Orlando is not getting a Black Sabbath house. I mean, I like the group and they are legends, but I'm pretty much over rock legend houses after last year (apologies to anyone who worked in Alice Cooper). Murdy seems to have a serious "broner" for these types of houses, maybe because it's a way for him to meet rock icons that he idolized as a child. All I know is that the Sabbath maze holds zero interest for me, and I'm happy we aren't getting it in Orlando.-
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All they're getting is the name, it WONT be the same house as Hollywood. Second, it's spelled La Llorona, and pronounced La Yorona. And finally, Hollywood announced Black Zabbath, so hope Orlando get's it next year.
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I agree lol, if they put forward the same effort in house they do on their "raw" commercials. My last year was 2010, never went back.
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Maybe I am in the minority, but I don't go to HHN to be scared. I am a 25 year old male so people getting in my face isn't scary. I go because of the sets and the work the guys do on them. I want to walk into the Walking Dead and Resident Evil. I like being starteled while I do it, but the sets are the big draw for me. No where else in Florida can pull this off and I have no problem with the IPs. My favorite houses last year were Gothic and the old school monsters, but it had everything to do with the set pieces and the scares. I mean the frakenstein scare was awesome and the zip lines in Gotchic the same. I am looking forward to Evil Dead, but Cabin in the woods can be awesome on both fronts.
Lastly, to say the scare actors don't work is just down right stupid. These men and women spend hours in heavy costumes and make up in the heat and deal with morons constantly. To say they are lazy is ignorant. On that front I hope you enjoy HOS because I am glad the work Universal does isnt wasted any more on you,.
Believe me, you're not in the minority, very well said. Oh and last i checked, HOS repeats all except maybe two houses, and the last time i went left a lot to be desired. Great post.
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Anyone who regularly reads my posts knows Im one of the biggest HHN cynics in the community. I stopped attending after 2011 for a few reasons, but predominately because the event as it was stopped appealing to me. My first three years attending were the IoA years, so my mindset on what the event is and is supposed to be is very different from the Studio years. That said, I still follow the event for two reasons: the artistry of the event as a whole and the game of speculation.
Now, this post will deal strictly with my perception of the artistry of the event. Most importantly, however, this post is going to directly address the reaction to TWD and the zones. For what its worth, I feel my opinion matters because I never had plans on going this year. There is no impact on my expectations for the event, and so this is really a truly disimpassioned perception.
While I agree that a majority of the active community wants the original content A&D is recognized for, the argument that this is a lazy idea is so off-base its like a homerun at the Citrus Bowl. Designing streets for TWD requires just as much artistic ability and creativity as an original content. Its arguable that it requires more creativity, because you have to make something popular different enough to matter while still being true to the source materia
I could argue all day long that last years Legions were just as lazy a concept as all-zombies. Its not Esquilito Morte, true, but even the most creative zones from recent years only had two or three different types of characters (Grown Evil only had three types of costumes). Or, if they had multiple characters, they were pulled from an assortment of costumes and masks they already had available (Morphans, Strengoits). If youre going to hate on the lack of creativity, at least be consistent.
The biggest irony Im finding though, is that the zones we are getting are EXACTLY the types of zone people have been clamoring for for years. Everyone has screamed for the Skool to return to Central Park and Mels, and you are now getting the spiritual successor in Herschels Barn! You want big, complex set-pieces in New York, and you are now getting a tank (and likely a bunch of other vehicles) in New York. I mean, theyre turning Hollywood into Woodbury! I cant even imagine the type of set-pieces theyre going to need to build to make that work. Isnt this exactly what everyone wanted last year; unique sets? Thats what youre getting.
What is, really, the difference between a hobo in rags from Acid Assault and a zombie in distressed clothing? If it was a zone of any zombies other than TWD zombies, people would be excited (Unless you flat dont like zombies, like me. But the point remains valid). The concerns about the inability to scare is understandable, sure. But how often do you really get scared at the event, and is that legitimately why you go? The event started losing the potential to be really scary years ago, especially compared to other haunts.
We are a drop in the bucket compared to how many people go each year. If Marketing and Corporate feels its beneficial from a business perspective to say, Were doing this, awesome. Its their job to make those decisions. If you disagree, either shrug it off and attend the event or dont go. The rants here and on other HHN forums arent going to do much good considering Marketing and Corporate doesnt care unless it affects their bottom line. All the ranting does is insult the creatives who are still creating a hell of a product for the masses.
Right on the money brother. There's nothing else to say since this sums it up really nice for everyone.
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I should have included that the price is also now 90 bucks. It's almost 200 bucks to go on a friday night with an express pass. I honestly can't justify going anymore. There's a point where it just isn't worth it. I'll probably be attending HOS this year. At the end of the night, I wanna feel like my money was well spent... I do agree though. Cabin in the Woods and American Werewolf are very cool houses. But beyond that, I'm not very happy with anything they've revealed this year.
There's no denying that Horror Nights has become something else. It's no longer what it used to be. Sure the idea is still there but it's not the same. I used to be OBSESSED with this event and I followed it religiously. But it's not like that anymore. Sad to say, but that's the truth. You can say reserve your judgement, but these passed years have been disappointing to me and to a lot of other people too. I'm pretty done with reserving my judgement because I know there's a good chance it's gonna be just like last year and the year before that. I'll come back when they go back to the roots of HHN, which was scaring the shit out of people and originality, not recreating movies and tv shows.
And no, I'm not asking them to cater to the fans. That's dumb. But expanding the walking dead really doesn't do a thing. I honestly doubt that it will boost their attendance that much more. Having the house already does that. Like I said, it's overkill. Not every watches the show and not everyone likes it. It also goes
against what horror nights was. They can cater to both the fans and the general public and still make a lot of money and maintain the kickto have. If you think otherwise, you're just a sucker who will say, "well, it's because they're trying to make money." They could easily do both. It's what a smart business who cares
about their customers, and their fans, would do. It's what good business would do. You can say it's silly of me to argue with it, but I'm gonna say you're silly
for not. Fans are equally as important as the general public.
Good, that means you won't be going back anytime soon. BTW, name calling won't get you nowhere.
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It's basically the same thing i said but more elaborate. It can be 20, 40, 100, 500 years but something will always come bigger then what's in now.Yeah probably. There might be something bigger than TWD someday, but there hasn't been anything horror related that was big as TWD for a while time. Maybe Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street at the very peak of their popularity before too many sequels killed the series. By the time Fright Nights started n 1991 started both of those franchises were suffering from the poor box office and critical response to Freddy's Dead and Jason Takes Manhattan. So at the very least, TWD has been the most popular horror property since HHN has been an event. But if the current pattern holds, you'll have to wait another 22 years or so.
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I never said that TWD was the only thing that could draw. Of course there are others that could draw just not as nearly as big as TWD.
You don't know what will be around in a year, two, or three. Once again, it's naive to say that anything else that's created from now till the and of tme will ever draw TWD crowds. You just never know.
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I'll have to disagree, there will ALWAYS be something that will turn out to be the flavor of the month. No offense but it's a bit naive to say that TWD is the only thing ever to draw crowds, and this is coming from a TWD fan.Even though I don't agree with way the event is going, I'll reserve judgement till opening. I agree that The Walking Dead will lose it's luster one day. The real question is what will Universal do when that happens. No other IP will have the drawing power that TWD has and crowds will go back to pre-2012 capacity. -
No offense, but I was making a statement. I don't really care if we have an icon or not (although, I do like them). Also, I've been following this event for years, I know what horror nights has been and how it's changed since it's beginning as Fright Nights. I don't need to have gone to every single year to know this. BTW, you could care less? So you do care I guess? I'm a little lost. Anyways, I couldn't care less about the blogger either (assuming that's what you meant) which means it kinda failed at what it was supposed to do. That's what I was getting at originally. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they just dropped the whole idea and focused on other things because it seems completely disjointed.
Anyways, it'd be nice if they gave us a little info on maybe Havoc or the mystery house. Nothing major but maybe a teaser? I know it's not an IP or anything but I'm sure people would find it interesting enough and it would keep them guessing.
I meant i could care less about the blogger. Not because it's done poorly but because stotylines and icons has never been what I go for. No offense taken btw.
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How did all this get restarted? Lol
Like you said, it's chugging along nicely.Yes, but let's not derail this argument about themes and icons. It's chugging along nicely. -
Once upon a time, Universal studios did not have Icons, overarching themes, and houses had NOTHING to do with one another, and guess what, the event did just fine. But you wouldn't know since you only been attending since 2005. BTW, i could care less about the blogger, imo that's something they made up to have fun at the expense of the fanboys that been crying all this time. Only one man's opinion.Doesn't surprise me we wont have an icon. No theme = no correlation to anything which means they can throw anything in there and it'll work. The blogger idea is kind of just a unimaginative attempt at trying to please us. Is anyone else beginning to think that none of that stuff really has any significance at all? Is this "blogger" just gonna dig everything up and "unleash" the horror... kinda like Fear and the lantern?-
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What? Do you really think they come in here for ideas? In other news, im glad they finally came out saying there won't be an icon which makes one less thing out of the way. Finally, looking forward to whatever comes down the pipeline that will cause another fan boy meltdown. Makes for a really fun week.
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Agree on the soundtrack. Pretty badass.OH? Permits were found for animatronics props. I will say this about TWD. I love the soundtrack. Some amazing music in that show. -
Let's hope that next week we get another reveal.So when do you think the next house reveal will be?-
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Hit the nail right on the head on your last posts Legacy. I can't say it any better then that. Let me add a couple more just for the fun of it, Dungeon of terror, Universal house of horrors, People under the stairs.
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Do you have any better ideas then Universal? They should be on you like white on rice for your input. Just sayin.
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I mean, let's be frank, besides a few hits here and there, the event has slowly gone downhill.
There's just too much involvement from management/marketing. Too many partnerships. I've gone since HHN 14 and the event is ONLY as popular as it is today because of those prime years that boosted it to a national level.
Jack is stale, zombies are stale, even I would say the chainsaw drill team is stale.
There is a reason why on the website their "Gallery" shows their more creative efforts as of late.
Here we go with the "it's marketing's fault" card again. Like i said before, i'm sure A and D welcomes the notion on most ip's ove "original" since they can pick out of the hat two or maybe three projects to work with instead of 8 houses and several scarezones. You know that they have other projects as well, you know, like Harry Potter, and many more right?
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