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Also... that really wouldnt work or make sense... what would they do to them? especially in todays litigious society... Remember folks... THIS IS JUST A GAME. IT IS NOT REAL LIFE.

This is something I sadly feel like I need to say, as many people have gotten a little TOO into this game this year and lines are being blurred.

THIS IS A GAME!

people were asking in the chat last night if they should attempt to subdue or restrain Fear or his allies at the event, which common sense would say NO, you dont touch any performer or guest... however common sense is not that common it seems.

People are getting very personal in disagreements and taking things wayyyy too far.

and It seems some people are behaving like this is actually REAL. What do you possibly think the "Senior Staff" are going to do to park guests?

They are all ACTORS and we are all playing a GAME.

Its a shame that this needs to be said, but unfortunately the way some people are taking this i'm afraid people will do real world things that have real world consequences and ruin the fun for everyone.

Dont touch, threaten or in any other way assault or attempt to bring harm to anyone else involved in this event... or anyone in general.

thank you.

Wait are you saying this isn't really Jack I have locked up in my closet? Man that clowns gonna be pissed........

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no problem, and I understand what you mean. And it wasnt directed only at you... It has been a growing trend on here and FB and I figured it needed to be addressed. And as good intentioned as the post you made was, I can also see your post as possibly fanning those flames in the fans who are getting too involved.

As ive said several times, Its getting to the point where I actually am starting to not want to participate this year.

I doubt there'll be people thinking that this is the literal end of the world and they're the world's greatest hope for survival from an ancient Sumerian god. Then again... people have done stupider things... I've mostly been thinking that these're just in-character posts.

The mental image of someone trying to go vigilante on what's supposed to be either a killer clown, a grandma, or a guy that looks like a mixture of Pinhead and Nightmare from Soul Calibur is pretty funny though.

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I've read the post from last night on facebook and been reading this thread but I gotta say this........please dont tell me that guy who saying LT is a bunch of Ametures either A.) believe that Legendary Truth is an actual Paranormal Investigation Agency or B.) believe that he's actualy a Ghostbuster and that he fought a Voodoo preist because he may need mental help

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Exactly. Please remember to a) think first, B) think some more, c) consult friends with common sense and then d) don't act. To consider doing something to an actor is ludicrous.

Yes, though im not sure about the consulting friends part... stupid people in groups are even MORE dangerous. Though you did say common sense, but still... thats a crapshoot.

I've read the post from last night on facebook and been reading this thread but I gotta say this........please dont tell me that guy who saying LT is a bunch of Ametures either A.) believe that Legendary Truth is an actual Paranormal Investigation Agency or B.) believe that he's actualy a Ghostbuster and that he fought a Voodoo preist because he may need mental help

I think i said it best before....

nothing surprises me anymore...

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I was going to post about this, but I felt that surely to God no one would mistake any of this for reality. There I go overestimating the intelligence of the hoi polloi again.

To echo what Rob is saying...THIS ISN'T REAL. There is NO LT. Your messages to them are probably being answered by the same one or two people working overtime in a cubicle somewhere. The lantern is a PROP. The "device" is nothing but a Soloflex bench with doo-dads stuck to it, and FEAR is a guy in a rubber suit. Do NOT tackle him. You will go to JAIL. Got that?

Seriously, when these people play Monopoly, do they actually BELIEVE that they have somehow transformed into a property-owning top hat?

Rant over.

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A little thing I noticed while looking back at the posts from last night

Me: Ahhhh, ok...so.....does LT currently possess the Portametus?

IH: yes, Dan, we have the lantern in Princeton but we do not have possession of Thorncastle's device.

Now, I was asking about the Portametus, but IH clearly responds that Yes, they have the LANTERN. Does this mean that maybe the portametus IS the lantern???? Idk, grasping at straws here.

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The way I see it, the Portametus wasn't actually created until the photographs were brought together. When the full image was revealed, the Portametus was created inside the lantern. Then it was removed, and studied/used/whatever.

The Portametus is a powerful magical talisman. It possesses the power to open a gateway between worlds. It is itself a literal interpretation of what we have been talking about- a stylized flame broken into six discrete parts. Five of the parts represent the iconic properties needed to open the gateway, and the sixth, starburst like pattern represents either the lantern or FEAR himself...of course, remember what Aiello said: FEAR is the lantern and the lantern is FEAR, so the difference may be moot.

The five flame segments can be seen as leading into the starburst, and the five icons are burning/existing/being fed by the flames of FEAR, implying that the combination of these properties are needed to reveal FEAR. However what leads into can also lead away from, so it can also be interpreted as the iconic properties splitting into pieces to destrpy FEAR. IMHO, the gate swings both ways. Remove one of the icons, and you remove a necessary piece of FEAR's physical existence. The gate closes, FEAR is trapped for another cycle, or until the icons can again be brought together.

All of this is probably blindingly obvious, so please bear with me. I'ze a slow adult. Hyuk.

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I think i said it best before....

that guy was talking about showing up with a pack and a trap, and seems sincere about it like he realy believes he is a ghost buster all I can say is WTF and Please if any of you guys see security escorting some guy with vacume hose attached to a backpack and a Ice chest connected to Wii controler please let me know and take a picture

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that guy was talking about showing up with a pack and a trap, and seems sincere about it like he realy believes he is a ghost buster all I can say is WTF and Please if any of you guys see security escorting aome guy with vacume hose attached to a backpack and a Ice chest connected to Wii controler please let me know and take a picture

I'll just say "Hi, Charles!"

I kid.

Maybe it's the Bloody Marys (I'm up to 3 now) but I just had another theory form. I'm kind of rambling, I know, so feel free to skip this and go back to the bickering if you like, I won't mind. Bickering is fun.

Earlier in some other thread, somewhere, I remember someone speculating about just exactly how the 5 Icons would be used along with the main Icon FEAR. HIs idea was that the icons would be captured and sacrificed...which is pretty cool...but we both ended up agreeing that they would end up being nothing more than minions to the big bad, a position that would diminish their icon status considerably.

But what if...what if instead of serving FEAR, or being sacrificed into some sort of magical flame to bring forth FEAR...what if the 5 icons ARE FEAR? What if, somehow, FEAR had been split into these 5 beings, each very powerful in his or her own right, but each only a shadow of the whole? What if the power of the Portamentus is not to create a gateway to another world...remember Aiello (I think) specifically stated that FEAR had ALWAYS been with them...but to actually somehow physically merge the icons into one single being?

We've heard again and again that we would be seeing the icons at HHNXX in a way they've never been seen before...and this sure as shit would qualify.

Or...maybe I've had too much to drink. Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash.

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The Portametus is a powerful magical talisman. It possesses the power to open a gateway between worlds. It is itself a literal interpretation of what we have been talking about- a stylized flame broken into six discrete parts. Five of the parts represent the iconic properties needed to open the gateway, and the sixth, starburst like pattern represents either the lantern or FEAR himself...of course, remember what Aiello said: FEAR is the lantern and the lantern is FEAR, so the difference may be moot.

In my mind, I have two theoreis as to what the Portametus actually is. The first is that it is a physical thing, like a medallion and that by saying something or by allowing light to hit it, it opens a gateway, like the mirror of twilight from Twilight Princess. If that's the case, then it could work as a gateway where fear can come out, but we could go in. My second theory is that the Portametus is not a physical object and is a symbol that must be drawn, or created as we did with the photos to open a gateway.

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But what if...what if instead of serving FEAR, or being sacrificed into some sort of magical flame to bring forth FEAR...what if the 5 icons ARE FEAR? What if, somehow, FEAR had been split into these 5 beings, each very powerful in his or her own right, but each only a shadow of the whole? What if the power of the Portamentus is not to create a gateway to another world...remember Aiello (I think) specifically stated that FEAR had ALWAYS been with them...but to actually somehow physically merge the icons into one single being?

We've heard again and again that we would be seeing the icons at HHNXX in a way they've never been seen before...and this sure as shit would qualify.

Or...maybe I've had too much to drink. Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash.

Nah, I get what you're saying. Personally, however, I think the 5 are just going to be used as minions, but your idea would be cool.

Not gonna lie, I read that fast and thought, "what the hell, is he talking about Horcruxes?"

Whoo, I'm tired.

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I'll just say "Hi, Charles!"

I kid.

Maybe it's the Bloody Marys (I'm up to 3 now) but I just had another theory form. I'm kind of rambling, I know, so feel free to skip this and go back to the bickering if you like, I won't mind. Bickering is fun.

Earlier in some other thread, somewhere, I remember someone speculating about just exactly how the 5 Icons would be used along with the main Icon FEAR. HIs idea was that the icons would be captured and sacrificed...which is pretty cool...but we both ended up agreeing that they would end up being nothing more than minions to the big bad, a position that would diminish their icon status considerably.

But what if...what if instead of serving FEAR, or being sacrificed into some sort of magical flame to bring forth FEAR...what if the 5 icons ARE FEAR? What if, somehow, FEAR had been split into these 5 beings, each very powerful in his or her own right, but each only a shadow of the whole? What if the power of the Portamentus is not to create a gateway to another world...remember Aiello (I think) specifically stated that FEAR had ALWAYS been with them...but to actually somehow physically merge the icons into one single being?

We've heard again and again that we would be seeing the icons at HHNXX in a way they've never been seen before...and this sure as shit would qualify.

Or...maybe I've had too much to drink. Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash.

I like your idea so please don't take the following comment as anything but good-hearted jest........ That reminds me of Voltron !..... and I suddenly pictured a Lego Batman figure made up of different HHN icon character pieces :lol:

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I like your idea so please don't take the following comment as anything but good-hearted jest........ That reminds me of Voltron !..... and I suddenly pictured a Lego Batman figure made up of different HHN icon character pieces :lol:

Oh no, I thought of Voltron too, but the idea was already so far out there that I decided not to mention it.

But seriously...I giant icon robot? How cool would THAT be? Silly...but cool.

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Okay, I contacted Ms. Himmel to get some clarification on the Portametus and the Lantern. There is an aspect of her response that I find really interesting and eye-opening.

Original Message -

"There seems to be some confusion among the Collective regarding the different items that were discussed during the conference on Wednesday. We understand the Device is missing, presumably in the possession of the Spirit Seekers however, the Lantern and Portametus have become a bit cloudy. Is the Portametus the image that the Collective put together or is the Lantern itself the Portametus, with the image being a, "key," of sorts, to the gateway/portal.

I would just like to clear this up so the Collective can refocus with a more direct, and clear, understanding of what has happened."

Reply -

"Jeffrey, yes there does some to be some unnecessary confusion. We've instructed Mr. Gordon to post a summary to clear this up. As of now, the Portametus is clearly an instrument of metamorphasis. Beyond that, I must defer to the C.I.L. for analysis.

IH"

Emphasis mine.

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I've read the post from last night on facebook and been reading this thread but I gotta say this........please dont tell me that guy who saying LT is a bunch of Ametures either A.) believe that Legendary Truth is an actual Paranormal Investigation Agency or B.) believe that he's actualy a Ghostbuster and that he fought a Voodoo preist because he may need mental help

Thank you, i'm glad i'm not the only one who felt that way lol

I second the notion. Besides, it's not like guests attacking scareactors is something new. God forbid they actually think it's for a just cause.

Wouldn't it be nice if people just behaved and kept their hands to themselves, heck we could get some really cool sets and stuff if they didn't have to deal with people touching, hitting or stealing everything and everyone. Too bad most people in the world make this just a dream

that guy was talking about showing up with a pack and a trap, and seems sincere about it like he realy believes he is a ghost buster all I can say is WTF and Please if any of you guys see security escorting some guy with vacume hose attached to a backpack and a Ice chest connected to Wii controler please let me know and take a picture

I go to comic cons in Orlando and i've seen these guys that think they are "official" Ghostbusters and actually pay to have their own location to meet people and offer their services and such and it just amazes me, i'm all for being a fan, heck i'm a HUGE Ghostbusters fan myself, but there is only so far i'll go. I've had more than one "fandom" turn me off things I once loved (Star Wars, G.I. Joe and BTVS just to name a few) I can't even watch Star Wars at this point, but that's not as much the fans fault as George Lucas' lol

So THAT'S what they are doing with the old Robosaurus framework...turning it into the mighty morphin Icon Ranger...

Mighty Morphin' Icon Rangers!

I think we know what the Portametus really does now. Case closed, everyone go home.

Damn, I guess now I can show the concept art I found

PRIcons.png

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