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On 3/13/2017 at 0:02 PM, hunnylvr said:

Completely wrong.

 

The Shining was NOT a "good adaptation" which is why King hated it. I loved Jack in it, but the movie completely missed the point of the book.

 

IT also NOT a "good adaptation".  Loved Tim Curry as Pennywise, but the rest of the movie was WAY over-edited to "fit" into a mini-series format.  Screw the mini-series as it used to be.  Now we have Netflix and Hulu, and something like IT could've been made into an epic two or three season series on one of those without all the editing and G rating.  That book deserves SO MUCH MORE along with an R rating to do it justice

 

Carrie was great

 

However, you forgot the actual BEST King movies:

 

Shawshank Redemption

Stand by Me

Misery

The Green Mile

Dolores Claiborne (not hyped but an awesome movie)

Apt Pupil

The Dead Zone

Firestarter

Creepshow

Salem's Lot

The Running Man

 

I was talking in terms of mainstream success, not in terms faithfulness to the source martial.  I haven't read the original books, so I can't judge how faithful they were.  Probably should of used better wording on my part, sorry.

 

For the other movies you mentioned, I forgot Misery existed, I didn't know Shawshank Redemption and The Running Man were King movies, and I never heard of the other ones.

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3 hours ago, b-wolf95 said:

 

I was talking in terms of mainstream success, not in terms faithfulness to the source martial.  I haven't read the original books, so I can't judge how faithful they were.  Probably should of used better wording on my part, sorry.

 

For the other movies you mentioned, I forgot Misery existed, I didn't know Shawshank Redemption and The Running Man were King movies, and I never heard of the other ones.

You're missing out on some straight-up classics in that list.

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The Beast from Salem's Lot is still one of the creepiest looking vampires from film, I think.  That movie was damn freaky.  Whereas in the book, the main vampire was more of the typical variety that came out at night but spoke and had human qualities.  Not this mofo.

 

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On 3/14/2017 at 0:56 PM, Ringwraith said:

 

Very true, however, I think these past couple of years have lured in the big "party crowds" and therefore they will pay to go to HHN no matter what the event will offer. So, still offer the AHS, TWD type haunts, but start bringing original back more and more, year by year and you'll be able to most audiences. It's like the film Cabin in the Woods. They showed a trailer with blood, guts, girls and monsters to bring in the goobers that just love that stuff, but it was directed by Joss Whedon, which is mostly a totally different audience. You got a quality mind-f*** horror movie with all of the trappings of gore-porn.

 

That's my opinion on what they should do with the event.

See, what really POs me is that reviews on the Vault even during the era that CA is pining for were RELENTLESSLY negative. I went to 16, 18, and 26, and while 18 got great reviews, a lot of people HATED 16, as well as 14, 17 and yes, even 15.

 

Point is, it's really hard for me to take this type of complaining seriously when people here and on the Vault when it existed have always complained about it.

 

Anyways, we'll almost certainly see AHS again. I'd cry from joy if we got a FN@F maze, but it's not well known of a property. I would assume "Brains" means zombies and therefore TWD. Would not be surprised if Checkmate means Saw. None of those three likely mazes excite me, but the nice thing is that it frees up time to go through the mazes I like repeatedly. I ignored LP, WD and AHS last year and was able to go through GT, TCM and TotA multiple times. :)


I saw Stranger Things mentioned at the beginning of this thread, wondering how they would do that since the main actors are kids? One scene could obviously be the room with the Christmas lights flashing and the Demagorgon reaching through the walls (with the Clash ominously blaring) but IDK how the rest could go.

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Just stopping by to rejoice that we are finally officially less than six months away.  I know. still a long time to wait, but I'm hoping the chatter starts amping up here.  Does NO ONE have theories any more?  Will we see some hints any time soon?

 

As for people complaining about the event, I still maintain that all of you who live in Florida take this event for granted, and, therefore, bitch more about it.  I've said this before, but I'll say it again:  I've been to a LOT of haunts, some good, many bad, and HHN is still the best overall Halloween event ever.  Do all the houses hit?  No way.  But with that much going on, you have to expect some duds.  Doesn't mean the whole event is shit.   Would I love to see more original content? Absolutely!  However, some of the IPs have been among my favorites as well - AHS, Cabin in the Woods, American Werewolf  - being prime recent examples.  It's a nice balance for me - except for the recurring ass-boil that is the Walking Dead.

 

I'm kind of bummed that this forum seems to have slowed way down.  It used to be the place to get my fix while waiting for the event to return. 

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Does anyone find this year to be very secretive? For example, the dates came late for HHN 27, considering ever since HHN23 or HHN24 the dates are revealed when the previous event is over. Also we only have 2 code names for Orlando, where as in Hollywood code names are being teased lady and right! And I have to agree that no body seems to have any theories to HHN 27, maybe the people who get inside info got cut off? Or maybe they're just tired of releasing info??

 

But I have to say that AHS will come back this year, it has to! I can see TWD coming back, considering it's return since 2012. It would be really cool if they did houses based on the following IP's: The Conjuring, Poltergeist, IT, Five Nights at Freddy's, Annabelle and Halloween 3. As for originals, it's a wild guess.

 

For the scare zones, I hope they return to doing 6. I would also like them not to use all of the New York area as 1 scare zone. The Purge scare zone in 2014 was really good. The shadybrook zone in 2015 was ok. Survive or die from last year felt too open and not a lot of scares. And with New York, the story line always involves a city in peril or in destruction, but I think they can use that area for something more creative.

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4 hours ago, hunnylvr said:

I'm kind of bummed that this forum seems to have slowed way down.  It used to be the place to get my fix while waiting for the event to return. 

 

Well... no info to go on. Leaks were either stopped up or they lost interest. 

On top of all that, it isn't hard to figure out a general idea every year for a lineup.

The walking Dead

Classic horror IP (last year was 3 classic IPS)

Whatever IP is being shared

Whatever IP Universal is pushing in line with whatever movie they have out

 

that's at the very least half of your line up. 

 

Now throw in 2 originals. Impossible to really know (probably another 3D house and/or one sequel) 

that's 6 of 8 at least 

 

The rest is kind of a grab bag ,  maybe original, maybe classic IP, Maybe sharing more than one, maybe another movie universal is pushing. Probably just a mix of the previous. 

 

Personally, the formula kills the speculation. It's easy enough to fill in the blanks so there isn't any real need for speculation. I think many can accurately guess 80% before the previous event has ended.

 

It's just the nature of things. Original are much harder to deduce. So when it was primarily originals with sequels not being the norm, it there was a lot more to speculate. Now all someone has to say to leak it is "King" or Insidious" and you don't need to describe the house at all.

 

It all will eventually leak anyway. I'd say mayish it will probably be known by those who seek it. 

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17 hours ago, JDW said:

 

Well... no info to go on. Leaks were either stopped up or they lost interest. 

On top of all that, it isn't hard to figure out a general idea every year for a lineup.

The walking Dead

Classic horror IP (last year was 3 classic IPS)

Whatever IP is being shared

Whatever IP Universal is pushing in line with whatever movie they have out

 

that's at the very least half of your line up. 

 

Now throw in 2 originals. Impossible to really know (probably another 3D house and/or one sequel) 

that's 6 of 8 at least 

 

The rest is kind of a grab bag ,  maybe original, maybe classic IP, Maybe sharing more than one, maybe another movie universal is pushing. Probably just a mix of the previous. 

 

Personally, the formula kills the speculation. It's easy enough to fill in the blanks so there isn't any real need for speculation. I think many can accurately guess 80% before the previous event has ended.

 

It's just the nature of things. Original are much harder to deduce. So when it was primarily originals with sequels not being the norm, it there was a lot more to speculate. Now all someone has to say to leak it is "King" or Insidious" and you don't need to describe the house at all.

 

It all will eventually leak anyway. I'd say mayish it will probably be known by those who seek it. 

 

Ok, so what would Universal be pushing this year in the way of horror?  Are we looking at a Mummy house then?  I refuse to believe TWD is coming back.  Possibly wishful thinking on my part.. but for chrissakes.. die already.

 

I know for sure AHS will be back - and that's awesome.  Aside from those things - what am I missing that is "obvious"?

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My gut is saying TWD is not coming back. They wouldn't have done a "best of" house last year and had minimal marketing compared to other years if it were staying around.

 

Personally, the formula kills the speculation. It's easy enough to fill in the blanks so there isn't any real need for speculation. I think many can accurately guess 80% before the previous event has ended.


 
It's just the nature of things. Original are much harder to deduce. So when it was primarily originals with sequels not being the norm, it there was a lot more to speculate. Now all someone has to say to leak it is "King" or Insidious" and you don't need to describe the house at all.
 
It all will eventually leak anyway. I'd say mayish it will probably be known by those who seek it.

 

I agree.

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5 hours ago, hunnylvr said:

 

Ok, so what would Universal be pushing this year in the way of horror?  Are we looking at a Mummy house then?  I refuse to believe TWD is coming back.  Possibly wishful thinking on my part.. but for chrissakes.. die already.

 

I know for sure AHS will be back - and that's awesome.  Aside from those things - what am I missing that is "obvious"?

 


Well you have Insidious 4, Get out, and The mummy directly from Universal. 

 

Get Out is wildly popular and would be an easy house. Insidious we have already had and was popular so would be a safe bet. 

 

the mummy... I honestly don't think it would translate well. then again, we had the original... twice? I guess it depends on how the movie will be handled. 

 

In the indirect Universal department, Krampus was very successful. So Trick R' Treat is a possibility. Not sure how BIG of one.

Other Legendary titles. Kong: Skull Island and The Great Wall solid possibilities. 

 

I haven't been following either side but I'm sure Hollywood has code names and a good idea. But, with IT coming out September 8... would be safe, dual coast, synergy and New Line Cinema has worked with them before. Other than that of course the shining would be amazing. 

 

Classic Throwback... IDK that's tough they've done all their dream projects I'm aware of. Curve ball: Funhouse or My Bloody Valentine. I've come to the conclusion they will never directly do HP Lovecraft. Just things inspired by it. But At the Mountains of Madness, dunwich horror,The Shunned House, and, of course, shadow over Innsmouth.

 

However, you still have Carrie, Cujo, and Christine that could be done as well. 

 

Originals: Nightingales vs body collectors, Something inspired by Lovecraft. Something 3D. Maybe the boogeyman/dark ritual house that was scrapped a few years back. It's also been a while since we have had a "true meaning of Halloween" house. So maybe and old world style "the Hallow"-esque type house. 

 

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On 3/20/2017 at 11:57 AM, hunnylvr said:

I'm kind of bummed that this forum seems to have slowed way down.  It used to be the place to get my fix while waiting for the event to return. 

 

Here's to hoping the chatter picks back up whenever the first bit of official news starts to trickle out.

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2 hours ago, JDW said:

 


Well you have Insidious 4, Get out, and The mummy directly from Universal. 

 

Get Out is wildly popular and would be an easy house. Insidious we have already had and was popular so would be a safe bet. 

 

In the indirect Universal department, Krampus was very successful. So Trick R' Treat is a possibility.

 

I haven't been following either side but I'm sure Hollywood has code names and a good idea. But, with IT coming out September 8... would be safe, dual coast, synergy and New Line Cinema has worked with them before. Other than that of course the shining would be amazing. 

 

Classic Throwback...

 

Originals: Nightingales vs body collectors, Something inspired by Lovecraft. Something 3D. Maybe the boogeyman/dark ritual house that was scrapped a few years back. It's also been a while since we have had a "true meaning of Halloween" house. So maybe and old world style "the Hallow"-esque type house. 

 

Of the newer Universal movies, I'd think Insidious returning would make the most sense. I can't speak much on Get Out because I didn't see it, but I'm pretty sure the new Mummy movie is going to be more of an action movie versus a horror. However, I guess that didn't stop them from using Dracula Untold which was definitely more action than horror, so who knows? 

 

I know that Trick R' Treat isn't as mainstream as many of the other big name movie titles they generally use, but as far as ip's go, I'd be down for them to use it. That movie is one of my favorite Halloween movies of all time. On top of that, I thought the Krampus house came out pretty good last year. Although I did notice that it got better as the event went on. 

 

If Checkmate is actually a reference to King, It would make the most sense since it will be in the theater while the event is ongoing. 

 

I'm going to guess the classic throwback will be some version of Friday the 13th. Even though the new Friday the 13th movie got cancelled, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jason at the event this year especially since TCM and Halloween have been used the past couple years. 

 

A boogeyman house probably would be cool. I'd love to see a true Halloween type house. Anything tying Halloween lore to the house would have me sold. I'm going to hope they skip the 3d house this year. If you've seen 1, you've seen them all. 

 

On a side note, I think they went a bit all out last year with big ip names. I'm rather curious to see how they're going to satisfy the ip crowd this year after using such big names last year. The Exorcist, Halloween, TCM, TWD, AHS are going to be hard to top (name wise) in my opinion.

 

We all are assuming that AHS is coming back, but I'm not sold on TWD making another return this year for the same reasons Critical Analysis mentioned above.

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I wouldn't even be surprised to she Jack and Chance back again. They have been very well-received the last few yeas. Years Logo exactly like the last few.... That or HHN with a bloody 27. Streets are always a crap shoot

 

 

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I figured the new Mummy would be more of an action film, but wasn't sure if they'd still try to push it through HHN.  Do you really think they'd do another Insidious?  I mean, I guess.. Get Out was a FANTASTIC movie, but I am having a hard time figuring out how it would translate to a house.  It's more of a mind thing than a visual thing. 

 

I gave a huge sigh of relief last year when TWD was a "best of".  I was convinced then that the dead would no longer walk HHN.  I hope we are all correct with this feeling.

 

Trick R Treat would be AWESOME!   It's one of my fave Halloween movies as well.  While we are talking older movies, I still want to see Phantasm some day.. if you're going old school, how do you not add that to the list?

 

You all are speaking as though it's a given that Stephen King finally caved and will allow his stuff to be made into houses.  How reliable is this information?  He was so adamant about it for so long that I don't want to get my hopes up only to be crushed again.   SK is my fave author, and I have literally grown up reading his stuff.  He's very much a huge part of my life, so seeing his work made into a piece of HHN would a be a dream for me. 

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3 hours ago, hunnylvr said:

You all are speaking as though it's a given that Stephen King finally caved and will allow his stuff to be made into houses.  How reliable is this information?  He was so adamant about it for so long that I don't want to get my hopes up only to be crushed again.   SK is my fave author, and I have literally grown up reading his stuff.  He's very much a huge part of my life, so seeing his work made into a piece of HHN would a be a dream for me. 

 

Well there is the possible loophole that Kurbrick's version of the shining would not under King's control. that and who knows the new "It"'s rights. 

 

He hates Kurbick's version and always says nobody does his work right. But, when he faithfully translates his work to screen it always ends up with great build up and then just leaves you scratching your head for the last half. Plus movies like Maximum Overdrive (which he had complete control over) was just a failure. 

 

I always said his work doesn't translate properly to movies. He's probably afraid they don't translate to haunted houses either... To some degree I understand that. His work is about random rabbit holes and vast story lines the don't always go anywhere but the world build. there is no way you can pack that in to a house of Boo. Still EVERYONE knows his work. At this point you still can convey the idea of books/movies without having to explain everything. 

 

Crimson Peak is a good example of that. Everyone said the house was beautiful but nobody got it because the story is complex and hard to glean from the house. however, if it had been a big hit and came out after the movie it may have been a different story. 

 

 

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So, I just got back from a short trip to Universal today and I wanted to bring up something I noticed while on the Rockit. Where the old queue for Twister was, next to Fallon they have fresh concrete poured in a LARGE rectangle shape. Since Fallon does not have a queue, and the fact that this large section of concrete can not be accessed from the main path has me wondering if they planned this location to be another place for a tent house. It seriously is the length and width of what most of the Hollywood houses fit on. I don't see any other reason for there to be that much concrete in a perfect long rectangle shape next to the building. The only thing I can't figure out would be the queue setup for a house there unless they rework the music plaza queue to be for that new location with just a small section of a SS house using the music plaza as a way to get backstage. All I know is they are getting to the point where they either need to expand to both parks or add more houses to help spread out crowds and UO is basically out of locations now that MiB is being used for a house location.

 

I wish I could have snapped a picture but you can only see it from on the Rockit and you can't bring cameras on the ride. We will see what happens with that location I guess in the next few months.

 

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I agree that it is usually very difficult to transfer King's work from book to movie. That is why the movies that worked the best were actually short stories or novellas.  Stand By Me, Shawshank Redemption and Apt Pupil - all novellas.  Green Mile was originally done as a serial - with a series of very short books.  Misery was a relatively short novel for him as was Carrie and the Dead Zone.  It's when you try to make a decent movie out of one of his masterpieces that you lose your way.  I am TERRIFIED to see The Dark Tower as I love, love, love the series.. but how do you get 7 books ... I just.. I don't even.  And while i'm curious about IT since the remake will have an R rating which will improve things immediately.. it's still a very long, BRILLIANT book, and I am scared to death what they will do with it.

 

That all being said, you are correct that everyone knows his most famous characters.  Many probably don't remember much of the background though except for what may have been imagined in a movie.  I think HHN could do some amazing work with his stuff because I know they are fans.  IT would make a great house because there is a ton of scenic, scary shit in that book.  I'd love to see Salem's Lot and Carrie and The Shining as well.. let's start there.

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15 hours ago, hunnylvr said:

I agree that it is usually very difficult to transfer King's work from book to movie. That is why the movies that worked the best were actually short stories or novellas.  Stand By Me, Shawshank Redemption and Apt Pupil - all novellas.  Green Mile was originally done as a serial - with a series of very short books.  Misery was a relatively short novel for him as was Carrie and the Dead Zone.  It's when you try to make a decent movie out of one of his masterpieces that you lose your way.  I am TERRIFIED to see The Dark Tower as I love, love, love the series.. but how do you get 7 books ... I just.. I don't even.  And while i'm curious about IT since the remake will have an R rating which will improve things immediately.. it's still a very long, BRILLIANT book, and I am scared to death what they will do with it.

 

That all being said, you are correct that everyone knows his most famous characters.  Many probably don't remember much of the background though except for what may have been imagined in a movie.  I think HHN could do some amazing work with his stuff because I know they are fans.  IT would make a great house because there is a ton of scenic, scary shit in that book.  I'd love to see Salem's Lot and Carrie and The Shining as well.. let's start there.

You forgot one of my favorites...The Mist...was also a short story.

 

I'm really frightened of The Dark Tower as well, but it sounds like it's actually supposed to be sort of a sequel. The movie coming out this year is also intended to start a new franchise (if it's successful), and might even be followed by a "Young Roland" type TV series.

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19 hours ago, HHNManics said:

So after some news in Hollywood about our lineup. I have come to you guys to kinda predict what you guys are sharing with us. First off "TWD" is not happening in Orlando this year I know. Second the properties that I am predicting you guys will share with us are AHS, Shining, Conjuring, Insidious, and Evil Dead ll. Shining is probably Checkmate, Evil Dead ll is probably Brains, and Conjuring could the Classic throwback Maze. I'm predicting you guys will get three originals these year as well. Being a 3D Maze, Original Maze, and a Icon (*Cough *Cough Eddie *Cough *Cough) Based Maze.

Wheredoes this ews about Hollywood come from?

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1 hour ago, HHNManics said:

Sources. I have heard a lot about this year over at Hollywood about the Lineup. And a lot of things from last year hint at these properties. Shining theme was played in Dead Man's Warf, and it was confirmed that the Carpet in AHS Hotel was inspired by the Shining. In Krampus at the end of the maze there is a Amityville Snow Globe that hints at The Conjuring. Finally in the Gaunlet last year there was a Easter Egg that looked like this 

I have already heard from Sources that AHS and Insidous are coming back. So looking at our Lineup I'm just predicting what we could be sharing.

Just "Sources"? So nothing anybody else could go check? 

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