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It doesn't matter what music murdy is into, it's what fits for a clue what counts

Also I'm sure he's not just mentioning legendary status raider players for the bonus hint

A Famous Raider player who played on the LA and Oakland Raiders. Even if you consider Justin Tuck to be famous, did he play on the LA Raiders? No.

Famous more than likely means Hall of Fame, so yes, in football terms legendary.

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Holy crap my eyes hurt from all of this research. After pretty much thorough research, I now present to you all of the 20th Century Broadway musicals that were not made into movies. There are some that were originally movies and some that were TV movies so I just put a question mark next to them. You're welcome:

Remember... There is a 25% chance that the musical could have also been made into a movie.

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A Famous Raider player who played on the LA and Oakland Raiders. Even if you consider Justin Tuck to be famous, did he play on the LA Raiders? No.

Famous more than likely means Hall of Fame, so yes, in football terms legendary.

Are you fucking serious, do you really think that putting the slash between Oakland and la means they played for both teams. Don't tell people they are wrong if you don't understand the fucking clue.
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Are you fucking serious, do you really think that putting the slash between Oakland and la means they played for both teams. Don't tell people they are wrong if you don't understand the fucking clue.

Yeah. He put a slash and LA because it's Oakland.

If he meant present day Raiders, he'd have said the Oakland Raiders.

If he meant the LA Raiders or Oakland Raiders, I'd think he would put the word "or" in between.

Just for the record, you are old enough to realize that the Raiders were also from LA at 1 point?

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Yeah. He put a slash and LA because it's Oakland.

If he meant present day Raiders, he'd have said the Oakland Raiders.

If he meant the LA Raiders or Oakland Raiders, I'd think he would put the word "or" in between.

Just for the record, you are old enough to realize that the Raiders were also from LA at 1 point?

Fuck you I know the raiders were in la first, I just fucking understand English better than you.

You really think he would make this that easy. I would only narrow down to one person instead of multiple

Seriously dude can you not accept other peoples speculation, if you don't think they're right you need to tell them they're wrong and act like you know everything, fuck you

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You really think he would make this that easy.

You chose a current player that the Raiders just picked up last season and then match it to probably the easiest answer possible and say this to me...

lol

You're too much.

I can't accept other people's speculation? Why? Because I said we should come up with other ideas besides AHS? Or is it because I merely pointed out that it most likely can't be Tuck due to the LA connection? Wow! Big deal.

I don't act like I know everything, but right or wrong, I have contributed plenty of information.

I'm also not the one with the potty mouth. Here's a novel idea... When someone disagrees with your point of view, try to convince them why you are correct instead of dropping a barrage of F bombs on them.

Justin Tuck is not known as a famous Raider. When he eventually retires, people will remember him as a player on the Super Bowl winning Giants teams.

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The Wiz was a musical which was made into a movie (red herring) that had Michael Jackson starring in it. Come to find out a couple years back when they were discussing who was going to replace Matt Smith as the Doctor, Michael Jackson was being considered for the role.

See here... http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/arts/tv-radio/article3807591.ece

I have to correct this. Matt Smith (the Eleventh Doctor) regenerated in the 2013 Christmas Special. He did not become the Doctor until the Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) regenerated in 2010.

Michael Jackson passed away in 2009. He could have never been a potential Eleventh Doctor.

The article you posted is in regards to the Eighth Doctor played by Paul McGann (not to be confused with the War Doctor, John Hurt) who appeared in the 1988 Doctor Who movie. Apparently, Jackson was considered a potential for the Eighth Doctor.

RockinSight, the Le Cage you posted in your list is Le Cage aux Folles, yes?

That has had movies made of the source material. One in French as Le Cage aux Folles, and one in English/American as The Birdcage. (Although, the red herring may apply here.)

On further reading of the clues, if the bonus hint regarding the musical is the red herring, our list greatly increases. Bonus hint is what gives us Tony Award winning not made into movie. That means Tony Award winning would be a red herring, too.

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I have to correct this. Matt Smith (the Eleventh Doctor) regenerated in the 2013 Christmas Special. He did not become the Doctor until the Tenth Doctor (David Tennant) regenerated in 2010.

Michael Jackson passed away in 2009. He could have never been a potential Eleventh Doctor.

Maybe he was going to use the Tardis? ;)

I read what is below, and got confused.

"Speculation over who will succeed Matt Smith as the Doctor has included some improbable names, but none is quite as surreal as the casting choice made by Hollywood executives.

A book about thwarted attempts to make a Doctor Who feature film reveals that Paramount wanted the title role to go to Michael Jackson."

Thanks for correcting me. To be honest, it did seem a little weird when I was typing it. hehe

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Simmer down people. I agree with foodstamps, / can be used in this context as 'or'.

He's also right in the fact that this is a speculation page where any idea is ok, so it's not cool of anyone to say "nope you're wrong" unless it's 100% not right. (Opinions don't count, I mean fact)

/ can be used as and too, which is what I believe Murdy means. Either way, it is part of the hint, so it should be addressed.

So we can't share our opinions here? Should I cheer someone on if I think they're wrong? I explained why I believe Tuck doesn't fit the clue and he had a tantrum (f-bombs included) instead of just discussing why he so strongly believes that it's him. Furthermore, I find it amusing that he's the one complaining and you're backing him up when he's really been the one shooting down stuff left and right.

" U need to stop with throwing child's play into everything, pretty sure it's not happening this year "

I don't see it being ghostbusters, as the new film comes out next year, why not wait til then. "

"No because he says this property is less horror, more well known. And we all know how popular trick r treat is with GP "

There is no need to get angry while we discuss this stuff. It's supposed to be fun.

One of the main points I was trying to get across was that if we're looking for "famous" Oakland/LA Raiders, we probably should start looking for them in the Hall of "Fame" first. Is that a bad idea? Here's a list...Jim Otto, George Blanda, Willie Brown*, Gene Upshaw, Art Shell*, Fred Biletnikoff*, Ted Hendricks*, Mike Haynes, Howie Long*, Dave Casper*, Marcus Allen and Ray Guy* and one coach, John Madden and Al Davis*

* = played or coached for the Oakland and LA Raiders

None of this may even matter anyways, because this could be the red herring for all we know.

For part 4, I had a thought that I'm going to share that hopefully won't cause another outburst. Murdy says that this part is the most evil of all. Now, it could mean nothing. But if he's telling the truth, it could possibly mean 1 of 2 things at least. Either this may be the one with a red herring bonus clue or it's going to be more difficult to find the band he's looking for. Assuming it's more difficult and the bonus is real, what would be the odds that the band we're looking for is on the Ramones Acid Eaters album? That would seem to be a bit too easy to find since the whole entire album is nothing but cover songs. It still could be there, (The Great Society, The Troggs, Love,The Seeds,The Amboy Dukes, The Beach Boys), but it probably isn't.

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While I can admit child's play or ghostbusters hasn't been officially denied, trick r treat has been numerously shut down by murdy but for some reason it keeps coming back up again. There, it's my opinion that child's play or ghostbusters won't happen this year, but it's fact trick r treat won't happen this year.

Even though I should just let this die, he keeps bringing this back up and I think he still doesn't understand what I was originally trying to get across. I WAS NEVER TRYING TO ARGUE WHY I THOUGHT TUCK WAS THE CONNECTION, I WAS SAYING THERE IS NO REASON FOR TELLING PEOPLE THATS NOT IT BASED ON YOUR INTERPETATION OF HOW THE CLUE WENT. this is a code name it seems unanimous that's its gonna be hard to figure out, and it's ridiculous that ideas are already getting shut down

As for actual speculation, the red herring IMO is either hint 2 or 3. 1 has too many connection to be false. 4 has to be true otherwise come on murdy, that's too much

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The slash / is used to denote or. It is also used to list options.

Ex: When gender is unknown or not specific. He/She is a fan of HHN.

Ex. When wishing to list items without showing preference. English/French are the official languages of Canada.

It is best to think of the slash as being "and" or "or" unless the author specifically states which way it is being used.

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So what if I suggested Justin Tuck and it was wrong?!? It's speculation! Ideas can be shot down but it's fine because it's all shots in the dark as well as trial and error for this stuff. If someone shoots down an idea of mine I really don't care because we're all here just to crack the codename and find the most probable property to fit this code.

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It is best to think of the slash as being "and" or "or" unless the author specifically states which way it is being used.

And I believe he was using it as "and".

Proper English doesn't always apply to twitter.

The reasons why I believe he's using it as "and" are twofold. First off, many of the greatest Raiders of all-time played in LA and OAK. The other reason I think this is the case is because this is the bonus clue. The bonus clues seem to be made to help point you in the direction of where you need to be, not have you looking deeper than you need to. That's why I personally think he would have said Oakland Raiders if the player was from that team period or LA Raiders during that period. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I originally read it.

For above^^^

Believe me, the only reason I may sound condescending is because that's how it may sound to you in a text format. People interpret the words they read and apply their own emotions to what is read. If you ever met me in person, you'd know that there is a big difference between a free flowing (mostly likely comical) conversation and one like this. If it ends up being Justin Tuck, I'll go and buy one of his jerseys to make up to you all.

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