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This is a speculation I have been contemplating for awhile, time to let others see how they feel about it.

Way back when, when speculation first began, there was talk of a house based on E. A. Poe’s work. With HOS announcing their own Poe house, speculation died down and it was assumed we would not get one. I, now, believe we were mistaken.

When the clues from our mutual friend began to come, it was noted that they were arriving in couplet form. This inevitably led my mind back to thoughts of Poe. And I feel that there is a strong likelihood that we shall see a Poe house in Sprung Tent 2.

The following roles are from HHNRumors.com. The interpretations are mine.

Link: http://www.hhnrumors.com/?x=casting

Sprung Tent 2:

Blackjack Dealer – As has been mentioned by others, a blackjack can be a weapon. It is a baton that has been used by law enforcement. My spec for this role is a character from “The Murders in the Rue Morgue”.

Bug Eye – a character from “the Tell-Tale Heart”. The old man with the vulture eyes perhaps?

Seagull – Birds of a feather? Could this be our Raven? Poe also wrote several short stories with nautical themes.

Wing – This, too, could be The Raven. I shall have to think more on it.

Cards – This makes me thinks of “The Fall of the House of Usher”.

Interrogator – “The Pit and The Pendulum”

Aristo Dead – Fortunato from “The Cask of Amontillado or Prospero from “The Masque of the Red Death”.

Writer – Mr. E. A. Poe Himself.

i just want to say, i LOVE your line of thought here. my fiance is actually one of the Aristo Deads in that house & he would make an AMAZING Fortunato.

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There is English in there but it is predominantly Spanish, I think.

I don't think that is spanish, I could not understand one word of it, i mean, the lady is hard to hear but the boys, i don't understand any of it in spanish, sounds like another Language, i dont know

Is that, is that russian? or something else...

I have heard this 5 times and i cannot understand any of it in spanish, if it is indeed spanish then maybe im just going crazy lol

I think I heard French toward the end (but Spanish and French are so close)

At 00:18 it sounds like a little girls saying "I need homework" haha

yeah I Was going to say french too, but, no, i cannot make anything out of it, is definitely not spanish

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I don't think it's French, I speak French, and if these people are speaking French, it's very poor. The French "R" is very distinguishable, it's made in the back of the throat, almost like your choking, and I don't hear it at :13, I hear an English "R" (Sounds like he's saying "In the front." or something.). Or at around :18 I hear another English "R", like she's saying "I need homework."

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I don't think it's French, I speak French, and if these people are speaking French, it's very poor.

same thing with the spanish

although, if it spanish from Spain, then is a different story because some parts of Spain their Spanish is very different sounding than the Spanish from America (the continent, lol) i mean, not only the accent but, some parts of spain, I couldn't understand if I ever went there,

that is making me wonder, but, no, i do not understand any of that in spanish

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same thing with the spanish

although, if it spanish from Spain, then is a different story because some parts of Spain their Spanish is very different sounding than the Spanish from America (the continent, lol) i mean, not only the accent but, some parts of spain, I couldn't understand if I ever went there,

that is making me wonder, but, no, i do not understand any of that in spanish

And in French, there aren't that many different dialects, they all sound pretty much similar. I'm pretty sure it's all English. It's just hard to decipher when so many words are spoken at the same time.

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I think I heard French toward the end (but Spanish and French are so close)

At 00:18 it sounds like a little girls saying "I need homework" haha

If not Spanish, it could be Portuguese. Those two languages are actually closer in sound. Although, the main voice we hear may not be in any language we know.

Ran backwards, perhaps?

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If not Spanish, it could be Portuguese. Those two languages are actually closer in sound. Although, the main voice we hear may not be in any language we know.

Ran backwards, perhaps?

that is true too, but, it didn't sound like Portuguese either, I don't speak it, but, like you said they are closer in sound, this sounded different

and you might be right it might be spanish in reverse,

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Have many of you weighed the possibility that there might not be a casino house?

what made you say that?

well it could be a scarezone? just like Fear was not present in any of the houses, and the lantern and everything was scarezones?

I could see that totally happening,

also, no casino house, Im ok with that too if is the case

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From what we can deduce there is only one house that could be a casino (The only house we don't really know the theme to) and I'd give that a 50/50 shot. Sure the code names are casino-like.. But it seems like a mislead to throw us off the scent. A Poe house is also very likely.

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Updated the "What do we know Spec" and tried to consolidate it as it was getting quite lengthy. But it is the most current and accurate info we have right now and will continue to be updated.

What we know for sure

There will be two shows: B&T and another TBA.

None of the previous Icons or house Franchises (prior to last year) are returning

At least 3 of the houses have a possibility of a ceiling or “Up-Scares”.

There are at least 8 houses and 6 Scarezones. Houses are in the same locations as last year. Scarezones are in Hollywood, New York, Shrek, Central Park, "Lucy", and IFB.

Rat Lady will be in New York and the NY scarezone will mostly be in Sting Alley.

IFB seems to be a stilt-heavy zone.

There will be a WWI house in 1 of the SS. (or old-time war... This will be confirmed shortly.)

Sprung 1

Room #8 is known in the permits as the “Rune Room.” This house links to the demon picture from the FB/Twitter account and the Certain Rune game.

Sprung 2

The entrance is where the exit normally is, meaning we have different crowd flow coming out of that house than in the past.

Jaws Queue

Rusty pipes, gears, and water tanks have been seen and are confirmed to be related to Saws and Steam. The Machine game and clue #2 Directly relate to this house. Horizion Extraction Facility has been seen painted in it and now on the game. The façade is built further out than normal (and is getting a true façade).

The Thing

Is a house this year. The logical place for would be 1 of the ss (22 or 23). Relates to Clue #1

The Disaster Queue

Has production equipment, links to the Channel surfing game on the site and clue #3 . Easter eggs, wood carvings (with antlers), rocking horses, and christmas trees have been seen in house... Along with vaious home furnishings and production equipment

One of the sound stages will be a cemetery that some how involves a blue light (which links to the BlueRay game on the site and Clue #4.

The parade building

Has something to do with a ship gone missing, set sail from Spain. This relates To clue #5

RIP, VIP and Unmasking the Horror tours will return this year and tickets are now on sale.

What we can deduce –

* IFB = International Food Building, which is the restaurant between Animal Actors and Simpsons.

Gambling/Games of luck is/are predominate this year.

The site has updated with games and will continue to do so (at least 6 games)

The time period and location of the icon is possibly the Big-Band (1920’s-30’s) and probably NOT Vegas.

* A 9th house is NOT happening this year. There has been no casting for a 9th house, no physical clues to a 9th house, no leaks of a 9th house. (It hasn't been announced, but we can deduce it).

There is a possibility of no casino house. The only possible location is Sprung 2 and it could likely be a Poe house.

What we know isn’t happening –

We aren’t getting a literature-based event this year. (Possible literature based house still widely speculated)

Cindy and Chance are NOT icons this year.

Major Rumors and Spec (Not confirmed) –

Luck, death, and fate will play a major part this year.

Character Code-Name Spec

All character code-names can be found at HHNRumors

General Thoughts and Spec

Not all of the characters we know from the past were actually Icons, which means people (Monsters, spirits, zombies, lesser characters, etc.) may come back.

The Queen of Spades has a dagger and red hair… take that for what it’s worth.

The Ace of Spades is known as the “Death Card.”

Everyone’s Fate is Death.

Not all the houses and scarezones have to tie in with the theme.

It takes at least two cards to hit 21.

A similar font to the website can be seen in HBO’s “Boardwalk Empire.”

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I think it pretty self explanatory that The Machine is Saws and Steam. Water, steam, steampunk, pretty much the same psychobabble that the podium barker belted out last year.

I don't think anything is misleading here. The games match the houses. They aren't making up games just to mess with us... The Ferris wheel is just an Easter egg for us fans.

100% Agreed. It has to be Saws and Steam, and no doubt that the games match the houses.

8 chips = 8 games = 8 Houses

Also remember "Nobody beats the House". In the bottom left corner of the game screen there's a button to "The House" a.k.a. the House of Cards.

To me, the house of cards is going to reveal our Main House / Icon House / Casino House after we beat the 8 games.

Also: On the question: True or False, no one has ever left after being accepted into the society (paraphrasing there, obviously).

The answer is True.

Wanna bet it's because they've all been killed? Seems like we're getting tricked into joining this Utopian society where we're likely just being recruited for our bodies.

I thought the exact same thing, I think this is where it's heading to.

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Jeramy, ruining the War surprise... :lol:

Location Spec

SS 22 - Thing or Cemetary

SS23A - War or Thing

SS 23B - Cemetary or Casino

Disaster - Horrible Holiday Horror Movie Television Marathon Production Studio

Jaws - Saws and Steam

Sprung 1 - Foster's Home for Imaginary, Day-Glow, Hippy Demons

Sprung 2 - Poe or Casino

Parade - Spanish Shipwreck

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Jeramy, ruining the War surprise... :lol:

Pish multiple people have posted it by now... not really a surprise anymore <_<

Plus was the second good rumor of the season. (The Thing being the first) and it has been in the spec since the beginning... I don't think anyone is surprised.

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Anyway here is just the children if you want to hear it. Definitely not English.

I don't think that is spanish, I could not understand one word of it, i mean, the lady is hard to hear but the boys, i don't understand any of it in spanish, sounds like another Language, i dont know

Is that, is that russian? or something else...

I have heard this 5 times and i cannot understand any of it in spanish, if it is indeed spanish then maybe im just going crazy lol

same thing with the spanish

although, if it spanish from Spain, then is a different story because some parts of Spain their Spanish is very different sounding than the Spanish from America (the continent, lol) i mean, not only the accent but, some parts of spain, I couldn't understand if I ever went there,

that is making me wonder, but, no, i do not understand any of that in spanish

I've heard it several times, loud with my headphones on.

They are speaking spanish in the first 12 seconds, it is spanish from Spain, as black mask said. It is not portuguese.

I could identified 2 women (maybe teachers), and several children playing, screaming like normal children do.

The problem is that they overlap like 4 dialogue layers, so you can't understand what they are saying.

However, between 0:09 and 0:11, I can hardly hear one of the women saying: ¿Cómo? ¿Qué tengo miedo? = What? Am I afraid?

But again, it is really intentionally jumbled, so it could be anything.

Also after the first 12 seconds they're speaking other language, certainly not spanish.

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Sprung 1 - Foster's Home for Imaginary, Day-Glow, Hippy Demons

Not to be a one liner, but that was fantastic. :D No matter what the actual house name ends up being, I think I'm going to affectionately call by that title and that title alone.

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Pish multiple people have posted it by now... not really a surprise anymore <_<

Plus was the second good rumor of the season. (The Thing being the first) and it has been in the spec since the beginning... I don't think anyone is surprised.

Personally I wish you guys wouldn't hold back what you know unless of course you work for the event and have been sworn to secrecy. Sure it's fun to speculate but we do that in the absence of real info right? I think it's quite cool that forums like this, who are full of passionate fans are ahead of the info curve. Its kind of a reward for supporting the event like we do. I mean that's what we are right, a sharing community? If you know something and you know it legally then share it I say.

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Personally I wish you guys wouldn't hold back what you know unless of course you work for the event and have been sworn to secrecy. Sure it's fun to speculate but we do that in the absence of real info right? I think it's quite cool that forums like this, who are full of passionate fans are ahead of the info curve. Its kind of a reward for supporting the event like we do. I mean that's what we are right, a sharing community? If you know something and you know it legally then share it I say.

There are several reasons things aren't shared. Some information is kept secret because of legality, some it's trust and some is liability. Obviously,scareactors and employees don't post what they know because they can't. That, however, doesn't mean they don't tell certain people. Those certain people, many times, are unable to talk about what they know because it can be traced back to the person who told them. Thus, they are sworn to secrecy and violating that could cause them to lose their source. Lastly, some people don't post what they "know" because they want more confirmation before saying something. There's already enough stuff being thrown at the wall, and they would rather keep it to themselves in case they are wrong.

People who can and are willing to share information do so. Not everyone is, however, and not everyone will.

Believe it or not, most of what is happening this year appears to have been "known" in some capacity for a while now. The fact of the matter is that not many people have recogonized it.

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Hey guys, it's been a while since I posted. Not sure if this has been mentioned or not but I'll go ahead and throw it out there. On the FB page, under hints, the green card shows our first clue of a house (presumed to be Tent 1). The new game they just added which involves choosing the correct symbolic rune to fit into the slot is also chosen when the Green card is picked. I'm assuming the different color cards represent the different houses. So once they release more card colors under the hints tab we'll be able to put two and two together.

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Believe it or not, most of what is happening this year appears to have been "known" in some capacity for a while now. The fact of the matter is that not many people have recogonized it.

That's the key. For example, take a look over at the Hints thread for the website games. Anyone who knows how to pull code from a web site would be able to tell you the games long before all of the games were released. The names of each of the games were on the site all along, you just had to know where to look. DISCLAIMER, don't go reading that thread if you don't want to see spoilers.

The same is true for most of the knowledge that we know. The truth of the matter is, I would venture to say that 98% of people on these forums get their info from simply seeing things back stage at Universal. Or, they simply have friends that have seen things backstage, and pass on the info. Thus, it's not like many of us have direct access to Entertainment and frequently talk with the designers about the events before they actually happen.

Also, when A&D is kind enough to host extra events for fans (VIP sessions, Entertainment Design Forums) frequently lots of things are talked about, but in such ways as many people don't think twice about them. Case and point, last year when Mike A. showed the Thing trailer. Common since would have told you that there was absolutely no reason for Entertainment to have a movie Trailer of a film still in production, unless they were doing something with the film for the parks. Thus, here we are almost a year later, with a Thing house to go along with.

Now onto speculation. I am venturing to say that our so called demon house will feature aspects from many of the world's biggest cultures and religions. I say this because of the objects and symbols placed on the shelf's in the pregame contains not only dragon type things, but a Buddha, Crucifix/Cross, and other possible religious symbols.

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