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This seems like the logical place for them to do this house the heat might actually help them somehow. It works with the code names as well, if you remember last year in the scarezone they had victims chained which could be the "gagged" role and I have heard all of the people being cast in this house are men.

I don't see it being in SS22 with the codenames, widow, spirit, Dr. F clone and Sarah all seem to not fit (I checked to see if there was a Sarah in the movie). For some reason the place that makes the most sense to me for The Thing house is 23A with "radio" being someone calling for help on a radio since the setting would be pretty isolated and the other two names being causes of death "redneck" being a slit throat. Idk this soundstage just makes more sense to me.

I know of at least one female being cast in JAWS, but it does seem to be a male dominated cast.

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I know I've stated that Disaster is likely not a holiday house, but details are starting to suggest my assumption was wrong.

That stated, the facade (if it does tie logically into the progression of the house) can only, effectively, be surrounding the first holiday.

This really makes me think we could be seeing a holiday based house, "surrounding the first holiday" and the facade tying in logically to the progression of the house? To me that sounds like we'll be starting with whatever the first holiday would be, then continuing through the house going through the other holidays chronologically throughout a year. Sounds like a pretty interesting idea for a house to me, I'd be excited to see where that goes!

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so if im reading correctly, the speculation for houses are as follows:

WW1 house in ss23

Hospital in SS23

Saws N' Steam in JAWS

Holiday House in Disaster!

Casino(undecided location)

THING(confirmed, undecided location)

SZ locations are:

IFB

Shrek Alley

Central Park area

NY

Hlwd Blvd

correct me if im wrong/add anything i missed

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so if im reading correctly, the speculation for houses are as follows:

WW1 house in ss23

Hospital in SS23

Saws N' Steam in JAWS

Holiday House in Disaster!

Casino(undecided location)

THING(confirmed, undecided location)

SZ locations are:

IFB

Shrek Alley

Central Park area

NY

Hlwd Blvd

correct me if im wrong/add anything i missed

If you combined two of those houses, you could get an open spot for the Thing house...

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so if im reading correctly, the speculation for houses are as follows:

WW1 house in ss23

Hospital in SS23

Saws N' Steam in JAWS

Holiday House in Disaster!

Casino(undecided location)

THING(confirmed, undecided location)

SZ locations are:

IFB

Shrek Alley

Central Park area

NY

Hlwd Blvd

correct me if im wrong/add anything i missed

Casino's in Sprung Tent 2.

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Casino's in Sprung Tent 2.

we dont know that for sure the code names besides blackjack dealer dont hint to a casino house. unless of course you know things i dont.

If you combined two of those houses, you could get an open spot for the Thing house...

the WW1 house and hospital go together as like a war and then recovery into one slightly longer house then the thing in another ss nd leave room for another house in the last one?

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YES I HAVE RETURNED!

Well after reading everything, I can truly say im excited for this year. Loving the new, fresh ideas. Now to go with the ideas, the whole speculation page got me thinking...

For the SZs I really do wanna see like a vegas style street...WITH ZOMBIES. I know its cliche but i really liked Zombiegras last year so now that this year seems to be the 21st year, nothing says 21 like vegas and zombies.

Hope no ones bashes my post, I just think it would be a cool idea...

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I'm really pulling for that Holidays house. I think it could be really interesting. They did so much with scary tales, after all (another semingly innocnet/ child like idea) that I can only imagine the cool stuff they could pull off with this kind of house.

I'm not sure how I would feel about Santa chasing me with a jagged edged candy cane. It kinda scares the crap out of me...and I love it.

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I'm starting to get suspicious that chainsaws may only be roaming on certain nights...

Lack of full-time Performer F's being cast during auditions.

This thing I'm hearing with veteran chainsaws being cast in houses instead of getting saws as usual.

What looks to be a high amount of "larger" guys not having been called yet or getting Firecrew/Active Back-up roles.

The high potential for a "chainsaw" house with our most recent clue.

Cost/Benefit analysis of only having chainsaws (one of the most "expensive" scares during the event) active on 15 days compared to 25 days.

The effectiveness of the "Roaming" team last year, which consisted entirely of Firecrew/Active Back-up performers.

A few signs.

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I just don't see the theme house being in a tent.

On another note going with the easter eggs in the Disaster queue, the White House holds an annual Easter Egg hunt, so don't rule out a President house just yet.

It should be noted that the president idea was stated as a joke by one of the members on here over at Rumors and someone took it and ran with it on this site thinking it was real speculation. Now certain members continue to feed this idea cause they get a kick out of it over at Rumors and enjoy making fun of members on this forum discussing it.

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Why can't we all just get along?

And, why not a Presidential house? We poke fun at them (all of them) mercilessly...why can't we zombify them and get them in a house? NOTE: I am not saying that I think it will happen, I am just saying that there is very little out of reach for ideas these days. No one is safe.

I can't figure it out for the life of me, unless they are doing some sort of day care or school (or orphanage!) once again. The cutouts plus the cheesy 70's furniture ring no bells in my head.

Mae

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It should be noted that the president idea was stated as a joke by one of the members on here over at Rumors and someone took it and ran with it on this site thinking it was real speculation. Now certain members continue to feed this idea cause they get a kick out of it over at Rumors and enjoy making fun of members on this forum discussing it.

Since I was the one who was joking about it at Rumors, it wasn't brought up over here by me or anyone else I consider "credible." The first I saw the presidents on here was from a name I didn't recognize. If someone was reading our joke, thought it was credible, and brought it over themselves, that's on them.

That said, I still think "Woodteeth" is George Washington, even in a Holiday House. There are a couple of Holidays in which he would fit...

EDIT - Also, I've said that the facade for Disaster looks like the White House, a Barn, a Pillow Factory, a City, a Mayan Temple, a Pagoda, and a Comic Book. Is one of them correct? Possible... but only one of them can be. You can't take everything I say in Shoutbox at face-value. I'm not coming over here and saying it's any of those things, so I don't see the problem.

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It should be noted that the president idea was stated as a joke by one of the members on here over at Rumors and someone took it and ran with it on this site thinking it was real speculation. Now certain members continue to feed this idea cause they get a kick out of it over at Rumors and enjoy making fun of members on this forum discussing it.

Someone took our joking about the President's house in the shoutbox seriously and copy/pasted our jokes as serious speculation on this site. We find it humorous that our jokes became serious speculation - why wouldn't we? I have not seen anyone from Rumors encouraging that rumor on this forum or instigating to keep the joke alive. It just has a life of its own.

And agreed with Legacy - the jokes stemmed from a real conversation about Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. We just kept running with it. I do believe woodteeth pertains to Washington, and Top Hat may be Lincoln.

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Lack of full-time Performer F's being cast during auditions.

This thing I'm hearing with veteran chainsaws being cast in houses instead of getting saws as usual.

What looks to be a high amount of "larger" guys not having been called yet or getting Firecrew/Active Back-up roles.

The high potential for a "chainsaw" house with our most recent clue.

Cost/Benefit analysis of only having chainsaws (one of the most "expensive" scares during the event) active on 15 days compared to 25 days.

The effectiveness of the "Roaming" team last year, which consisted entirely of Firecrew/Active Back-up performers.

A few signs.

Maybe they are making a saws and steam house and they are using a lot of the big chainsaw guys for the scareactors in the house

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I now am in agreement with Jeramy in that I no longer see any Chance of Chance being this year's Icon. I have returned to my original theory based on the odd capitalization of the word "Luck" in the official press release that the Icon will be some sort of personification of Luck.

Based on the Queen of Spades I hope this will still be a beautiful and seductive redhead woman, perhaps Lady Luck???

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With the new info... Let's recap what we know and don't know.

Spec Recap

What we know for sure–

The entrance for the Sprung 2 house (Havoc) is where the exit normally is, meaning we have different crowd flow coming out of that house than in the past.

The façade for Jaws is built further out than normal (and is getting a true façade).

Sprung 1’s Room #8 is known in the permits as the “Rune Room.”

Three of the houses have some sort of overhang requiring sprinklers to be installed (possible a ceiling or “Up-Scares”).

None of the previous Icons are returning.

* There are at least 8 houses and 6 Scarezones (they’re not cutting back). Houses are in the same locations as last year. Scarezones are in Hollywood, New York, Plaza of the Stars, Shrek, Central Park and IFB.

* Something, similar to a scarezone, is happening in “Lucy.”

A similar font to the website can be seen in HBO’s “Boardwalk Empire.”

Auditions include asking for individuals who can speak Spanish.

* IFB seems to be a stilt-heavy zone.

Rusty pipes, gears, and water tanks have been seen in the Jaws queue

Easter eggs and wood carvings (with antlers) have been seen in disaster. Along with various home furnishings.

The Thing will be a house this year.

RIP, VIP and Unmasking the Horror tours will return this year.

The commercial was shot in June.

"Horizon Extraction Facility" has been seen painted in the Jaws queue.

What we can deduce –

* IFB = International Food Building, which is the restaurant between Animal Actors and Simpsons.

Gambling/Games is/are the predominate theme this year.

The time period and location of the icon is possibly the Big-Band (1920’s-30’s) and probably NOT Vegas.

We are having some sort of “Casino/Gambling” house this year.

* A 9th house is NOT happening this year. There has been no casting for a 9th house, no physical clues to a 9th house, no leaks of a 9th house. (It has been announced, but we can deduce it).

We are getting something that is heavily influenced by Spanish culture or history.

Our mutual friend's clues seem to imply Saws and Steam house

The items in the Jaws queue seem to imply the Saws and Steam house.

The logical place for The thing would be a sound stage (namely SS 22)

What we know isn’t happening –

We aren’t getting a literature-based event this year.

* Cindy as an icon this year.

Major Rumors and Spec (Not confirmed) –

“Death” will play a major part this year (stems from a perceived clue from Catacombs last year).

* There will be a WWI house in in the Soundstages.

* Character Code-Name Spec – All character code-names can be found at HHNRumors

* General Spec says that “Sprung 2” is our Casino house, although that is not confirmed or a consensus.

General Thoughts and Spec –

Not all of the characters we know from the past were actually Icons, which means people (Monsters? Spirits? Zombies?) may come back.

The Queen of Spades has a dagger and red hair… take that for what it’s worth.

The Ace of Spades is known as the “Death Card.”

* Everyone’s Fate is Death.

Not all the houses and scarezones have to tie in with the theme.

It takes two cards to hit 21.

"Lady Luck" has been speculated as the icon.

”Official Clues” From a Mutual Friend –

”In heaven, the three with whom I would talk? Eoin Colfer, Steve Jobs and Peter Falk.” – The accepted interpretation of the riddle is that, “All die in the end,” or, “All meet the same fate.” There can be more to it, but that has yet to be confirmed.

"One stands to lose their body's bounty, If they return to God's Own County" - Implies Yorkshire (the only place called God's own COUNTY. Saws and Steam took place in New Yorkshire. The "body's bounty" would be blood or the flesh in general. In Saws and Steam they extracted water from bodies.

With all that being said, this is what we know so far. So let's not "push the discussion of where you want it to go."

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Will Eisner 1917 - 2005 is considered one of the greatest comic book creators of all time. The "Oscars" of the comic book industry are named the Eisner Awards in his honor. He is best known for creating The Spirit.

In 1940 he created a super heroine called Lady Luck. She was an Irish-American socialite named Brenda Banks who became the mysterious and beautiful costumed crime fighter Lady Luck, aided only by her chauffeur, Peecolo. She had no super powers but fought crime using only her wits and her amazing good fortune, 'the luck of the Irish" as it were.

This was somewhat hindered by the fact that the police believed her a criminal herself, and would attempt to apprehend her. Ironically her boyfriend was the all unknowing Police Chief Hardy Moore!!!

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I bring this up because it has been rumored that the new Icon may be some sort of Lady Luck type figure, possibly like Eisner's heroine, a ginger. And I think it would be cool if there were some similar look in her appearance.

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I wonder how wide the thresholds really are for recycled and original content respectively this year. With a S&S house heavily hinted at and most people unhappy about another movie house, let alone one that's being considered a rehash, I'm seriously doubting that we'll get to see some of last year's favorites as experimental franchises: Catacombs and Dogs of War. If S&S went from a street concept to a house, then does anyone think that one of these could do the reverse? So little is know about the streets at this time, and while I do think it'll push our tolerance levels you just never can tell with Universal.

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I now am in agreement with Jeramy in that I no longer see any Chance of Chance being this year's Icon. I have returned to my original theory based on the odd capitalization of the word "Luck" in the official press release that the Icon will be some sort of personification of Luck.

Based on the Queen of Spades I hope this will still be a beautiful and seductive redhead woman, perhaps Lady Luck???

I think perhaps the cards were read too literally as Chance. I somehow doubt Lady Luck would appreciate being called a ginger, Dr. Jimmy. Better not push your luck! Oh... this year is so full of puns!

I wonder how wide the thresholds really are for recycled and original content respectively this year. With a S&S house heavily hinted at and most people unhappy about another movie house, let alone one that's being considered a rehash, I'm seriously doubting that we'll get to see some of last year's favorites as experimental franchises: Catacombs and Dogs of War. If S&S went from a street concept to a house, than does anyone think that one of these could do the reverse? So little is know about the streets at this time, and while I do think it'll push our tolerance levels you just never can tell with Universal.

If anything, I thought they might have moved Havoc to the streets. But there have been no requirements for shaving heads, and I assume they would try to recast some of the people who made the house so successful. Doesn't seem to be happening this year.

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