TheEyeOfHorus

these have all been discussed previously.

and Fate, hence why i thought it a fitting quote.... but as jimmy and i said... Its never as hard as people make it out to be... and that's what they count on.

Worried Montressor? ill just say... i've watched a lot of people over the years run all over looking for things that were sitting right in front of their noses.

or even what escorts you to the other side, or leads you there... but you explain it more loquaciously than i jimmy but then... i tend to prefer to be more cryptic.

another possibility, but it doesnt address the whole riddle.

no one expects the spanish inquisition

no, boris was stated as being alive and well. but anyway, ill give the advice of what ive learned in dealing with our friend.... dont look too deeply.

one is alive and healthy. one is dying. one is dead.

Exactly Sinister my brother... exactly

two are alive now, why would the author want to meet them in heaven? "To die is a fate that will come to us all"

why would they all be in heaven with the author... we all die

dont just focus on the ending, beginnings can be important too alive, sick or dead... the same fate awaits us all.

no, definitely not.

hahahhaha ill give you kids some time to work on it.... not giving this one yet

some of you are way too hung up on one or two ideas. open your mind and you will find its more simple yet less obvious than you realize. Though with time and patience they will find you.

sooo many people quoting my clues... may as well give credit to the original author. that means you Legacy

i got in line for security at 7... got out of line and went home at 7:30

fair enough.. but consider this... you were ASKING if you could break the rules. Now if your job was to enforce the rules, and someone came up to you insisting that they should be allowed to break those rules, and moreover that they have been breaking them all night... how would you react? If you were working at a store and someone walked past the register and said "im just gonna take this" while waving an item in their hands? If you were a police officer and someone told you they were going to have a beer while driving, and its cool, they've been doing it all night? etc etc... I

Ive always said we should become a dry event like hollywood...

Well lets see, I'm an adult, who works, pays taxes, pays for my own tickets and has earned every right to do as I wish. I find it hilarious that you wish to question my maturity... but i'm not going to devolve this conversation into childish insults. Even if YOU are mature enough or feel you are.. many are not.. and the postings on the boards and the FB pages etc prove those facts rather well, as well as previous experiences they have with similar events. They want to be able to not have to watch what they say, and not have to worry about upset parents, as well as not have to worry about other secondary effects of having minors in there. Not to mention.. the place is REALLY small... with the maybe 30 people in there last Thursday it was rather packed, so by its very nature they would be limited on the amount of space they can provide... and an easy way to limit that space is by instituting an age limit. Its not a personal attack on you due to your age... but your age is a limiting factor on many things in life... I cant get the senior citizens discount (yet)... Guess what... I was once a teenager too... and yeah, it was disappointing when I couldn't get into a venue that was 21 and up... but I understood they had reasons and respected it. As I got older and had to on a few occasions decide if an event i was promoting was going to be 18+, 21+ or all ages... upon realizing the reality of the situation... I almost always chose 21 and up. "Why?" do you ask? because you hold all ages and many adults avoid it because they dont want to feel like they are in a "day care", and choosing 18 and up was a tough middle ground and required a lot of extra attention as well as having bodies on the floor that will spend less money overall and take up space that could be filled with people buying more expensive drinks. Not to mention the income levels of the groups. As hard as it is to hear... 12-20 is not an important demographic to cater to. Overall you have less disposable income as you either are spending what your parents gave you, or have a min wage job, or somewhere in between. (yes there are exceptions in both directions). the 21-35 (and the 36-55 for that matter) demo has more disposable income, better jobs, likely a real career and spend more overall, that is the audience everyone chooses to cater to. Not to even mention that overall as pointed out by the FTC in 2003, the total young adult population (ages 21-34) is about 50% larger than the underage youth population (ages 12-20). The VIP lounge is in a way a test for a new experience or so, and the feedback they receive from that demographic is far more important. It helps them see what experiences adults are willing to spend money on in the future. Once again, if you have a small place with limited space... you will limit it as best you can to your target demographic. So, from a business perspective... Its easy to support a 21+ area. Is it disappointing to you? yes, certainly... its always disappointing when you would like to do something but cant. But to be realistic... while universal will gladly take your money, your money is not as important to them as my money, michelle's money, Mz_'s money, etc... Is it "short sighted".. possibly... but not likely, cause I know for a fact the first thing I did when I was 21 was all those things, and go to all those places I couldn't when I was younger. In a way, its a rite of passage in our society. Also, you do have chances to see the past... its called the 20 years of fear street and Hallowed Past. also you could do the UTH tour with the 20 years tag... hell on all the UTH tours you can go into the VIP lounge, its where they begin. and here... have a video of the exhibit.

Your posts and inability to be mature enough to realize that not everything is open to you and you are not entitled to anything... is exactly the reason why us 21 and ups were very happy when it was made adults only. This is a decision they made to make it more intimate, mature and so they are able to talk and converse openly... its private property and a private company, they dont have to do anything just because people might feel left out. there are venues all over universal and all over the country that are 21 and up. When you are older you will be able to take advantage of them... till then accept that it is, in fact, a fact of life. Life isnt fair... anyone who tells you differently is selling something.

actually the HHN "severe Fear" house would have been age restricted as you would have had to sign a waiver and its not a legal contract unless you are over 18. Yes that is FACT, and that was always the plan. they WANTED it age restricted. As we learned in the VIP lounge this past week. also since you mention Howl o scream.... you notice their site says "must be 18 to enter site" this year? Also ALone, while being an "upcharge house" that has the plus of you being in a small group... is NOTHING like the Extreme concept that UO had... you are basically just paying to go through a house by your self.. a much different experience to Severe Fear.

I can only imagine the complaints now if/when we do have the "extreme house", which would also be age restricted. this is why we cant have nice things....

Yes, exactly... while there is a young fanbase out there and they are vocal on the forums because they have a lot of time to post... HHN is still an event geared to ADULTS, and these discussions are geared to an adult fanbase. They also ask that the discussions not be uploaded to youtube as well... they have their reasons and while you may not understand them, they are good ones. There are a lot of things you can't do till 21, and this is one of them. You might not like it, and none of us did when were were too young.. but respect it.

my point was it was to keep the level of maturity and discourse at a more adult level.