mr.luck Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 7 deadly sins? we had that last yr, that just sounds like your are getting orlandos hand me downs from last year, and that scare zone sucked trust me. a maze of it would be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Ok guys, I think I may have cracked Quigley. I'm about 85-90% sure it's The Hills Have Eyes, the other percent would be TCM. Since it was noted that Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds were fired on the same day, I began to look up both of them starting with Clint. I didn't find anything interesting so I looked up Burt Reynolds. Reynolds stared in the film Deliverance, this film was a very high point in his career. The movie is about 4 men who take a trip to the backwoods, only to run into a town filled with inbreds. They are then attacked by a group of inbred hillbillies and tortured (one is even raped)....sound familiar.Murdy said that Quigley was a very well known film, more than Amok. THHE fits that. This would also match the hint about two mazes having vehicles bigger than cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Ok guys, I think I may have cracked Quigley. I'm about 85-90% sure it's The Hills Have Eyes, the other percent would be TCM. Since it was noted that Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds were fired on the same day, I began to look up both of them starting with Clint. I didn't find anything interesting so I looked up Burt Reynolds. Reynolds stared in the film Deliverance, this film was a very high point in his career. The movie is about 4 men who take a trip to the backwoods, only to run into a town filled with inbreds. They are then attacked by a group of inbred hillbillies and tortured (one is even raped)....sound familiar.Murdy said that Quigley was a very well known film, more than Amok. THHE fits that. This would also match the hint about two mazes having vehicles bigger than cars. As much as I would LOVE a Hill Have Eyes maze, I think that's stretching the clue a little thin. With that logic, it could also be Wrong Turn, another film with almost the same premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsylumSB Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Ok guys, I think I may have cracked Quigley. I'm about 85-90% sure it's The Hills Have Eyes, the other percent would be TCM. Since it was noted that Clint Eastwood and Burt Reynolds were fired on the same day, I began to look up both of them starting with Clint. I didn't find anything interesting so I looked up Burt Reynolds. Reynolds stared in the film Deliverance, this film was a very high point in his career. The movie is about 4 men who take a trip to the backwoods, only to run into a town filled with inbreds. They are then attacked by a group of inbred hillbillies and tortured (one is even raped)....sound familiar.Murdy said that Quigley was a very well known film, more than Amok. THHE fits that. This would also match the hint about two mazes having vehicles bigger than cars. If only Texas Chainsaw Massacre's release date was sooner, it might have a good chance of returning this year. Probably just a coincidence, and staying with the Clint Eastwood clue, one of the characters in the new film is named Eastwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) Love that seven deadly sins reasoning for maze 3. I can't help but think it's either original or something we haven't seen yet, like Lords of Salem. I don't know, but this is exactly why I decided not to get obsessed with this year's speculation -- just when I think FOR SURE it's something, speculation starts to lead in a different direction. I like how we now do know HoH is not apart of the codenames though. He implied work was to be done on it (along with the scarezones) so I'm lead to believe it WILL get an overlay of some sort this year. I'm also guessing it'll be original or based on a Universal film. With not much enthusiasm toward it, my guess is original or he's keeping the overlay very light. Why else wouldn't he put a codename on it? The Smiths - Based on a theme (on the survey) Dante - Based on an artistic creation Classic Cowboy - Based on a property Quigley - Based on a movie Carpenter - Not sure HoH - Not sure Looking at this, it appears we'll probably have only ONE maze based on a film. While The Smiths and Carpenter could very well be the return of AC and LL, with Cowboy looking like it'll be based off a TV show, Dante looking more and more to be original and HoH being the HoH; this year could be VERY different from what we've known HHN to be in the past. But would there really be 3 original mazes in one year, 2 of them returning? And one maze taking a risk on using a TV show? And Quigley being a last minute replacement with the HoH having zero pull-in power? Doesn't seem like much to market on... Ah, but I also forgot he mentioned that the Terror Tram is based on a property as well. Hm. Edited June 20, 2012 by DTH316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 ^John said that the clue to the maze had something to do with the actors career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Love that seven deadly sins reasoning for maze 3. I can't help but think it's either original or something we haven't seen yet, like Lords of Salem. I don't know, but this is exactly why I decided not to get obsessed with this year's speculation -- just when I think FOR SURE it's something, speculation starts to lead in a different direction. I like how we now do know HoH is not apart of the codenames though. He implied work was to be done on it (along with the scarezones) so I'm lead to believe it WILL get an overlay of some sort this year. I'm also guessing it'll be original or based on a Universal film. With not much enthusiasm toward it, my guess is original or he's keeping the overlay very light. Why else wouldn't he put a codename on it? The Smiths - Based on a theme (on the survey) Dante - Based on an artistic creation Classic Cowboy - Based on a property Quigley - Based on a movie Carpenter - Not sure HoH - Not sure Looking at this, it appears we'll probably have only ONE maze based on a film. While The Smiths and Carpenter could very well be the return of AC and LL, with Cowboy looking like it'll be based off a TV show, Dante looking more and more to be original and HoH being the HoH; this year could be VERY different from what we've known HHN to be in the past. But would there really be 3 original mazes in one year, 2 of them returning? And one maze taking a risk on using a TV show? And Quigley being a last minute replacement with the HoH having zero pull-in power? Doesn't seem like much to market on... Ah, but I also forgot he mentioned that the Terror Tram is based on a property as well. Hm. I think it's safe to say that Carpenter isn't the return of Alice Cooper. Just before announcing the code name, John tweeted the following: "Maze #5 had a last second change of properties, found a new one we've never done at HHN. Very cool property. Concept design starts next week." So Carpenter should be something completely new to HHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Please excuse me for skipping maze 4... That one is driving me crazy and I needed to take a break from researching it for a bit. I think in my off time I might have a lead on maze 5! Maze 5 - at this time, with no other clues to guide me other then Carpenter and a few coincidences I have noticed (I plan on changing my line of research here if given new clues), I am heavily leaning towards maze number 5 being based on KISS. After the success of last years Alice Cooper maze, it wouldn't be completely crazy if this was in fact a possibility. The only real clues we have is that it's a new property to HHNH and that the title of a John Carpenter film is a major hint. My favorite John Carpenter film is In The Mouth Of Madness. One of the most iconic images from KISS is Gene Simmons opening his mouth and sticking out his tongue. So I did a little bit of research on KISS and found out that there new album, entitled Monster, is being released this October. Maybe I'm just crazy, but I'm starting to think this is a good possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 ^Meh, I really don't care for rock music, so I wouldn't really care. I think the reason behind john murdy making an alice maze is because he is such a big fan.... BTW, has anybody found clues that could point to American Werewolf in London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I actually never saw that tweet from John (or maybe I forgot) so... HALLELUJAH!!! No return of AC (or at least I hope). I also forgot to say welcome to HNN Stitch_101. So far, you've been a very valuable member of the speculation team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 EEEKKK, crossing my fingers.... @HorrorNights have you ever thought about using the hills have eyes for a maze? @Ahsotn Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Carpenter = Halloween = Trick 'r Treat. Until I have further clues, I see why not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_101 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Carpenter = Halloween = Trick 'r Treat. Until I have further clues, I see why not! I actually never saw that tweet from John (or maybe I forgot) so... HALLELUJAH!!! No return of AC (or at least I hope). I also forgot to say welcome to HNN Stitch_101. So far, you've been a very valuable member of the speculation team! Thanks! I'm glad to be here :-) I'm actually a transfer from Orlando. Grew up with HHNO, but now living in San Diego and am excited to see what HHNH has in store! Carpenter = Halloween = Trick 'r Treat. Until I have further clues, I see why not! Ohhhh see that was a much simpler connection then mine, and one I like a whole lot more lol! I've been at it for hours researching possibilities for maze 4... I have a few leads but want to check a few more things out first. I'll have my thoughts on it posted tomorrow! :-) Ohhh and for anyone that is on John is about to start a code name contest on twitter! Edited June 21, 2012 by Stitch_101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'll be looking toward to it, you seen to be really good at this. BTW I'd just like to throw this out there, John Carpenter also made a film called black moon rising which would go with my speculation of American werewolf in london coming (I guess orlando's rumor got me into it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsylumSB Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Maze 5 - at this time, with no other clues to guide me other then Carpenter and a few coincidences I have noticed (I plan on changing my line of research here if given new clues), I am heavily leaning towards maze number 5 being based on KISS. After the success of last years Alice Cooper maze, it wouldn't be completely crazy if this was in fact a possibility. The only real clues we have is that it's a new property to HHNH and that the title of a John Carpenter film is a major hint. My favorite John Carpenter film is In The Mouth Of Madness. One of the most iconic images from KISS is Gene Simmons opening his mouth and sticking out his tongue. So I did a little bit of research on KISS and found out that there new album, entitled Monster, is being released this October. Maybe I'm just crazy, but I'm starting to think this is a good possibility. And I thought my "outside of the box" speculation only led to this idea...ha ha! With the increase in celebrity involvement and previous carnival/amusement themes (psycho circus/Kiss meets the Phantom), I thought "why not". Nice posts...are you part of the HB blog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsylumSB Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Love that seven deadly sins reasoning for maze 3. I can't help but think it's either original or something we haven't seen yet, like Lords of Salem. I don't know, but this is exactly why I decided not to get obsessed with this year's speculation -- just when I think FOR SURE it's something, speculation starts to lead in a different direction. At the end of the day, DTH, the fun (and madness) of speculation only leads to Halloween Horror Nights. Edited June 21, 2012 by AsylumSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00nightcrawler Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) If the hills have eyes comes, I think it will be the terror tram. Would fit perfectly. And could Carpenter be Trick r' Treat? I really really really hope so. And The Walking Dead is pretty much 99.99999% confirmed then? Also welcome, stitch_101. Having been to a ton of haunted attractions, I can tell you HHN hollywood is one of the best currently running. What hollywood lacks in quantity and even quality compared to orlando it makes up for enthusiasm. I don't think any other event ive been to matches the energy that is in the air every time I go to hollywood. People line up to get in like 5 hours before opening, its crazy. Edited June 21, 2012 by 00nightcrawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 First off, welcome to the Hollywood side Stitch! Glad to see our side growing! Also, thanks for pointing out that hint earlier. I fixed it on the cheat sheet. I'm starting to believe maze #2 really is going to be the Walking Dead. The song you mentioned on there with R.E.M., it's the End of the World, I looked up the lyrics and came across the composers Leonard Bernstein. Famous composer. That's got to be it. I think you nailed it! He also mentioned that the face was going to be "crazy". I guess this means it's going to go on either the lower lot or Terminator. I'm actually hoping to see it on the lower lot so that the Mummy venue will have a house that has multiple environments instead of just "one big lair" like TCM and Hostel. JP is also a possibility. It's also sounding like Dante is Silent Hill. All of the clue point to it. Dante inspiration, the amusement park, Nightengales, the timeline of the new film....it all makes too much sense. I'm starting to believe Carpenter will be an original maze. I just have that feeling... Lastly, with the date for the film being pushed back, wouldn't it be odd if TCM wasn't happening after all? What if it actually turned out to be AMOK? If that's the case, then Lionsgate could have pulled TCM and say that they wanted to promote Silent Hill instead. Remember 2009 where Wolfman got pulled for MBV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauntfan Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Lastly, with the date for the film being pushed back, wouldn't it be odd if TCM wasn't happening after all? What if it actually turned out to be AMOK? If that's the case, then Lionsgate could have pulled TCM and say that they wanted to promote Silent Hill instead. Remember 2009 where Wolfman got pulled for MBV? The difference is Wolfman was a Universal film pulled for a Lionsgate film, not a swap of promotions. TCM to Silent Hill would be Lionsgate to Lionsgate. It's possible but that discards your reasoning in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 The difference is Wolfman was a Universal film pulled for a Lionsgate film, not a swap of promotions. TCM to Silent Hill would be Lionsgate to Lionsgate. It's possible but that discards your reasoning in that case. My point is, Lionsgate probably doesn't want to steal the thunder of a film that will be released around that time. Why feature a house on a property that has been pushed back to next year when you can feature a film that will be out during HHN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauntfan Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 ^No I understood what you meant, but I meant that your comparison with the Wolfman was a completely different situation, if what you say about TCM - SH might be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindhousehero13 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Hey, don't forget, TCM is now owned by Lionsgate. The Changeling. Oooooohhhhh boy. That was waaaaay back. I really doubt Murdy would stoop that low haha. Maybe children could be "older kids" from the original TCM? That's REEEALLY a stretch. Was'nt the changling a thriller not a horror movie? and The song "Suffer LITTLE Children" doubt it means teens to college age kids Murdy named some England town in last year's hints too (this time, Manchester being one). I've been trying to connect clues to Cabin in the Woods but no dice so far. I'd love that but I don't see it happening. The ending may be just TOO much to handle for a maze. As for TrT, child killers weren't really a prominent thing in that movie. He killed one kid and it's not entirely certain if he killed more. Every time children pop up, people always mention TrT and I find that funny, as that's the last thing I think of when thinking of the horrors from that film haha. the song Suffer Little Children was about murders that took place near Manchester just fyi *SPOILER* well TrT besides principle wilkins did have alot of children's deaths in, The fat kid, the two dead kids already burried in wilkins back yard, the special ed kids in the flash back, the middle school kids who were eaten by the zombies so it is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTH316 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) I'm starting to believe Carpenter will be an original maze. I just have that feeling... As Stitch mentioned earlier, it's a pre-existing property. ------> "Maze #5 had a last second change of properties, found a new one we've never done at HHN. Very cool property. Concept design starts next week." But yeah, Walking Dead and Silent Hill seem like locks (Silent Hill has the seven deadly sins represented in the games, afterall). Everything else, I feel sketchy about. And DANG IT! I missed the window today. Oh well. Some new info about this year's event: - Murdy confirms Carpenter is NOT Alice Cooper. Phew. - [the next 2 are Murdy's secret writing] "Classic Cowboy is not the name of an actor or of a historical figure." - "Dante is not a movie made in the 21st century." That last one seems like a trick. Have us thinking that it's a movie made in the 20th century when really, it's not a movie at all! However, that could spell trouble for our Silent Hill spec. He MAY be basing it off the video games, which would make that statement true but if the movies are in consideration, we're out of luck since the film wasn't made pre-2000. Edited June 21, 2012 by DTH316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsylumSB Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) I find it odd that Alice Cooper would not return given the track record of repeating mazes that scored highest on the survey. Unless there were so many options that John Murdy gave in to the cries of the "No-Repeaters". Edited June 21, 2012 by AsylumSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridesandstuff Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'd just like to go further into the classic cowboy codename, a character in the comic (not sure about the show) , is an ex NFL player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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